OKC Thunder 2022-23 Regular Season Discussion

[retrobro90]

A good 25 plus minutes of shai praise on the hoop collective that’s worth a listen.

I love McMahon. That crew has gotten a lot friendlier w one another but nothing was sweeter than the era when they really hated each other (mostly Bontemps in a perpetual nerd rage at the other two)

[retrobro90]

we need to find a way to get john collins. he is the perfect kind of pnr / 3pt big combo for pf next to chet and giddey.

He would fit like a glove on the court. Wonder about him as a culture fit but its undeniable what his skillset would bring to those two guys you mentioned though.

I don't see how they make that salary work though. Collins is making 23.5 mil

[slick_watts]

we need to find a way to get john collins. he is the perfect kind of pnr / 3pt big combo for pf next to chet and giddey.

He would fit like a glove on the court. Wonder about him as a culture fit but its undeniable what his skillset would bring to those two guys you mentioned though.

the only way we could get him during the season is to include dort.

[retrobro90]

we need to find a way to get john collins. he is the perfect kind of pnr / 3pt big combo for pf next to chet and giddey.

He would fit like a glove on the court. Wonder about him as a culture fit but its undeniable what his skillset would bring to those two guys you mentioned though.

the only way we could get him during the season is to include dort.

Yeah personally I wouldnt do that. Understand the skepticism about Dort's longterm fit but I'd rather not rock the boat in that regard just yet

[ThunderBolt]

A good 25 plus minutes of shai praise on the hoop collective that’s worth a listen.

I love McMahon. That crew has gotten a lot friendlier w one another but nothing was sweeter than the era when they really hated each other (mostly Bontemps in a perpetual nerd rage at the other two)

Windy gets a lot of hate but I think he’s a good listen.

[slick_watts]

He would fit like a glove on the court. Wonder about him as a culture fit but its undeniable what his skillset would bring to those two guys you mentioned though.

the only way we could get him during the season is to include dort.

Yeah personally I wouldnt do that. Understand the skepticism about Dort's longterm fit but I'd rather not rock the boat in that regard just yet

i would!

[Dadouv47]

Everytime I want to trade Dort, I remember that he's Shai's best friend

[bbms]

dort is showing a tendency to have his best defensive season statistically, and that is the kind of skillset that i want to watch him at the playoffs again for better valuation. if you go by raptor, he's a clean + player.

he needs to clean up his offense, hope for the growth of jalen williams, chet and maybe poku take some of usage on the offensive end. i think he's much better as a low usage offensive player than andre roberson was, his defense does not come at the cost of as major leaks on offense, only if he soaks up usg which is coach d's responsability to not allow a player like dort trying and failing to be dwyane wade.

[slick_watts]

Everytime I want to trade Dort, I remember that he's Shai's best friend

i think there's zero percent chance this would factor into sam presti's decision making.

[ThunderBolt]

Everytime I want to trade Dort, I remember that he's Shai's best friend

i think there's zero percent chance this would factor into sam presti's decision making.

I think I would probably be do it. If it works, it has potential to unlock so much more room for shai to operate.

[ThunderBolt]

I wouldn't mind trading our 2023 pick if it''s in the 6-10 range but it won't be easy to find a good player with enough years left on his contract and that would be a great fit.

Yea I want to make a move now but I just don’t know who will be available. I really like Vassell but I can’t come up with any logical reason for SA to trade him.

I like Toppin. He's never gotten the run he deserves because of Randle and he hasn't been the defensive disaster that was predicted before the draft. I wonder how hard it would by to pry him away given the size and duration of Randle's remaining contract.

I’ve not watched much of toppin. If he’s moved at the expense of bazley, I’d be open to that.

[kdthunderup]

Poku carrying tonight. Giddey’s Sophmore slump might be real - he has looked terrible.

[Dadouv47]

oh well we knew a ****y game was coming sooner or later. Poku 1st quarter was super impressive though.

[Old Man Game]

Boy that sure looked like the fourth game in six nights last night.

Aside from that, I feel like Memphis did a lot of the same stuff that Boston did to kind of slow SGA down and frustrate him. Just in terms of walling up, taking one more step towards him and making him see a crowd. It's a real indication of how badly we need One more guy who's got at least some aptitude for scoring.

[ThunderBolt]

Poku carrying tonight. Giddey’s Sophmore slump might be real - he has looked terrible.

Now that teams have figured out how to defend him, it seems like he’s lost his confidence.

[Old Man Game]

Poku carrying tonight. Giddey’s Sophmore slump might be real - he has looked terrible.

Now that teams have figured out how to defend him, it seems like he’s lost his confidence.

You notice how many terrible passes he's started trying to force? My theory is because he can't really do anything else offensively he's increasingly pressing to try to make the passes happen.

[ThunderBolt]

Poku carrying tonight. Giddey’s Sophmore slump might be real - he has looked terrible.

Now that teams have figured out how to defend him, it seems like he’s lost his confidence.

You notice how many terrible passes he's started trying to force? My theory is because he can't really do anything else offensively he's increasingly pressing to try to make the passes happen.

Yea he’s definitely struggling but if poku can develop, I think Josh can too. Unless Orlando want to trade him for Wagner, I’m cool waiting it out.

[Xatticus]

Poku carrying tonight. Giddey’s Sophmore slump might be real - he has looked terrible.

Now that teams have figured out how to defend him, it seems like he’s lost his confidence.

You notice how many terrible passes he's started trying to force? My theory is because he can't really do anything else offensively he's increasingly pressing to try to make the passes happen.

This offense isn't doing him any favors. There isn't much screening going on. There isn't much in the way of pick-and-pop or pick-and-roll partners. It's basically just Muscala. There is a clear path to success for a player with Giddey's attributes, but almost none of it exists in this offense. I don't know how you draft a pick-and-roll savant and then construct a roster without any bigs, but that's where we are.

John Collins would be a godsend for Giddey, but there is no way to make that happen because this organization has very little roster flexibility at this point.

[B8RcDeMktfxC]

Obviously there's a limit to everyone's patience, but I really do think with Giddey and Poku you now have essentially no-miss, really, really good NBA players. And it's just a matter of time. Ofc, not going to exaggerate and say "certain" future all-stars or whatever, but definitely really solid pieces.

[B8RcDeMktfxC]

I wouldn't mind trading our 2023 pick if it''s in the 6-10 range but it won't be easy to find a good player with enough years left on his contract and that would be a great fit.

Yea I want to make a move now but I just don’t know who will be available. I really like Vassell but I can’t come up with any logical reason for SA to trade him.

I like Toppin. He's never gotten the run he deserves because of Randle and he hasn't been the defensive disaster that was predicted before the draft. I wonder how hard it would by to pry him away given the size and duration of Randle's remaining contract.

This is an interesting idea. Tobbin's 3pt shot efficiency went way up at the end of last year and is still ~40% for this year. His defence, ptic team-D, isn't that great, but he does supply a lot of energy. But what would you want to give the Knicks for him? Picks and your least valued player? one for one player swap? ... ?