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Post#221 » by zoyathedestroya » Wed Nov 16, 2022 10:59 pm

The important bit in this Malone interview is he called Sam Doogie Hauser lol.

https://heavy.com/sports/boston-celtics/mike-malone-sounds-off-celtics-joe-mazzulla/

“I give Joe, their coach, a lot of credit, for starting the season with all the noise around this team, and to fill in for the shoes that he’s filling in for. Give him and give their team a lot of credit for the start they’ve gotten themselves off to,” Malone said.


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Post#223 » by sam_I_am » Thu Nov 17, 2022 3:50 pm

Mazzulla is hands down Coach of the Year so far. Yes he inherited a great team, but his innovations on offense let alone his ability to stabilize a tumultuous preseason has been special.
"I think the criticism's stupid," Stevens said. "So I don't care. I'm with Jaylen (Brown) on that. Those two had achieved more than most 25 and 26 year olds ever had. I'd rather be in the mix and have my guts ripped out than suck."
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Post#224 » by 165bows » Thu Nov 17, 2022 3:54 pm

zoyathedestroya wrote:The important bit in this Malone interview is he called Sam Doogie Hauser lol.

https://heavy.com/sports/boston-celtics/mike-malone-sounds-off-celtics-joe-mazzulla/

“I give Joe, their coach, a lot of credit, for starting the season with all the noise around this team, and to fill in for the shoes that he’s filling in for. Give him and give their team a lot of credit for the start they’ve gotten themselves off to,” Malone said.


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Post#226 » by Hal14 » Sat Nov 19, 2022 4:19 pm

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Post#227 » by darrendaye » Sat Nov 19, 2022 7:57 pm

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I said in last night's game thread, I'm willing to ride with him on timeout hesitancy. It really depends on the message he's sending not just symbolically but articulating verbally to the team in doing so. If it's "I want you to learn to save yourselves from yourselves" I support the concept. Tough love message for a team that needs to take another maturity step forward to reach the goal they're setting now. It's really about the messaging. And the future results, of course.
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Re: Joe Mazzulla Thread – Celtics Interim Head Coach (2022-23) 

Post#228 » by ballup » Sat Nov 19, 2022 7:58 pm

This may be premature, but the situation is eerily similar to the Warriors. Hear me out, a defendive coach in Mark Jackson gets replaced by coach who implements movement heavy offense in Kerr

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Post#229 » by Homerclease » Sat Nov 19, 2022 7:59 pm

Hal14 wrote:Smart guy:

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Can’t hate this enough. This line of thinking will cost this team basketball games. Especially in the post season
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Post#230 » by ParticleMan » Sat Nov 19, 2022 8:19 pm

Homerclease wrote:
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Can’t hate this enough. This line of thinking will cost this team basketball games. Especially in the post season


He seemed to be saying it was a teaching moment. The team has to learn to right its own ship on the floor, I actually like it, improves the bbiq. I bet Joe will have a tighter leash in the playoffs.
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Post#231 » by bisme37 » Sat Nov 19, 2022 8:51 pm

While not all fans of the Boston Celtics might agree, interim head coach Joe Mazzulla’s habit of letting his team play through a rough patch instead of calling a quick timeout has been looked on favorably by his players. Asked if he thinks that approach a helpful one, star wing Jaylen Brown replied “At times, it’s good.”

“It challenges us not only for the situation at hand, but also challenges us to be better down the line,” he explained, via CLNS Media. “I think we’ve been in the NBA long enough to know how to get to our spots, how to correct some of our mistakes.”

“We’ve got a poised team, so that’s a lot of trust from our head coach that he instills in our players and in us to figure it out. So to be honest, that’s what you want as a player, and you want that relationship with your head coach.”

“That he trusts you out there, that you’ll figure it out — and for the most part, we have this year,” added Brown.

“We’ve just got to keep it up and continue to set our bar at a higher standard.”


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Post#232 » by Homerclease » Sat Nov 19, 2022 11:00 pm

ParticleMan wrote:
Homerclease wrote:
Hal14 wrote:Smart guy:

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Can’t hate this enough. This line of thinking will cost this team basketball games. Especially in the post season


He seemed to be saying it was a teaching moment. The team has to learn to right its own ship on the floor, I actually like it, improves the bbiq. I bet Joe will have a tighter leash in the playoffs.

I heard this same crap from Brad Stevens. I hated it then and I hate it now. The players are still human beings and that includes both teams. During the Ime era in the second half of the year when we were rolling, if this team got out to a big lead it was good night Irene because Ime had a great feel for when his men would start to let their foot off the gas a bit. They would make a few bone head plays and a team would go a quick 5-0 run and bam. Timeout and light a fire under your guys asses to finish a game properly.

Consequently, you can’t teach guys to effect the mindset of your opponent as well. When a team makes a few shots and a few plays and their confidence level starts to rise, it’s the coaches JOB to know when to stem the tide and cool things down. It’s not teaching your guys perseverance, it’s abandoning them on a desert island. I’m all about righting our own ship, but the coach is the leader of men out here and sometimes that requires stepping in to either cool off the opponent, or to rally the troops. Passive aggressive coaching is a loser mentality that will not work and was my biggest fear promoting a Brad disciple to HC.
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Post#233 » by Smart2Nesmith43 » Sat Nov 19, 2022 11:29 pm

Phil Jackson was notorious for letting his team figure out how to stop a run on their own. He rode that "loser mentality" to 11 championships as a coach. Chuck Daly didn't call a timeout for the entire duration of the 1992 Olympics. There are plenty of other examples as well.

Maybe it's more important to have a team with players that know what to do when stuff starts to spiral out of control than a coach that calls time every time the other team scores three buckets in a row. If the team needs the coach to hold their hand every time there's a little adversity they aren't playing for a championship regardless of who's coaching them.

By the way for a guy that supposedly had the magic touch when it came to calling timeouts, I can't remember a team give up more 20-4 game killing type of runs in the playoffs than Udoka's Celtics but at least he burned half his timeouts during the run so it's all good.
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Post#234 » by CeltsfanSinceBirth » Sun Nov 20, 2022 1:01 am

CeltsfanSinceBirth wrote:I know people keep pointing to his age as a detriment, but anyone who grew up playing ball and been coached by several different coaches - I guarantee that it was easier and funner to play for guys closer to your age than it was someone older. They talked like you, they were into the same things as you, and the younger guys were usually more easy-going, but when they dug into you, it felt like your older sibling trying to motivate you instead of a parent giving you ****. I trust Brad’s ability to pick good coaches, and if he felt Mazzulla was a better choice than Stoudamire, then so be it. Brad is a forward thinker, so he’s definitely not going to let a bureaucratic trait like age or experience sway him.

Placing a few bucks on Mazzulla to win coach of the year. He’s got a talented roster, his defense was already in place last year, and the voters love a good narrative, and there is no better story to be told than Joe’s.


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Post#235 » by Hal14 » Sun Nov 20, 2022 2:24 am

CeltsfanSinceBirth wrote:
CeltsfanSinceBirth wrote:I know people keep pointing to his age as a detriment, but anyone who grew up playing ball and been coached by several different coaches - I guarantee that it was easier and funner to play for guys closer to your age than it was someone older. They talked like you, they were into the same things as you, and the younger guys were usually more easy-going, but when they dug into you, it felt like your older sibling trying to motivate you instead of a parent giving you ****. I trust Brad’s ability to pick good coaches, and if he felt Mazzulla was a better choice than Stoudamire, then so be it. Brad is a forward thinker, so he’s definitely not going to let a bureaucratic trait like age or experience sway him.

Placing a few bucks on Mazzulla to win coach of the year. He’s got a talented roster, his defense was already in place last year, and the voters love a good narrative, and there is no better story to be told than Joe’s.


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Yeah we're definitely seeing a trend over the last 10 or so years towards younger coaches.

The outlier is Popovich but there's outliers for everything. Pop is just an amazing coach, arguably the GOAT.
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Post#236 » by Hal14 » Sun Nov 20, 2022 2:38 am

Homerclease wrote:
ParticleMan wrote:
Homerclease wrote:Can’t hate this enough. This line of thinking will cost this team basketball games. Especially in the post season


He seemed to be saying it was a teaching moment. The team has to learn to right its own ship on the floor, I actually like it, improves the bbiq. I bet Joe will have a tighter leash in the playoffs.

I heard this same crap from Brad Stevens. I hated it then and I hate it now. The players are still human beings and that includes both teams. During the Ime era in the second half of the year when we were rolling, if this team got out to a big lead it was good night Irene because Ime had a great feel for when his men would start to let their foot off the gas a bit. They would make a few bone head plays and a team would go a quick 5-0 run and bam. Timeout and light a fire under your guys asses to finish a game properly.

Consequently, you can’t teach guys to effect the mindset of your opponent as well. When a team makes a few shots and a few plays and their confidence level starts to rise, it’s the coaches JOB to know when to stem the tide and cool things down. It’s not teaching your guys perseverance, it’s abandoning them on a desert island. I’m all about righting our own ship, but the coach is the leader of men out here and sometimes that requires stepping in to either cool off the opponent, or to rally the troops. Passive aggressive coaching is a loser mentality that will not work and was my biggest fear promoting a Brad disciple to HC.

Last night when the Pelicans made a run to cut our lead to 6, most coaches would have called a timeout but Mazzulla let our guys figure it out on their own, we responded with a 5-0 run to push the lead back to 11, making the Pelicans call a timeout instead and from there we cruised to the win.

Oh and there was this too..

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The guy is off to one of the best starts for a 1st year coach in team history. 9 game win streak, best record in the league, without our all-defense starting center.
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Post#237 » by Homerclease » Sun Nov 20, 2022 3:00 am

Hal14 wrote:
Homerclease wrote:
ParticleMan wrote:
He seemed to be saying it was a teaching moment. The team has to learn to right its own ship on the floor, I actually like it, improves the bbiq. I bet Joe will have a tighter leash in the playoffs.

I heard this same crap from Brad Stevens. I hated it then and I hate it now. The players are still human beings and that includes both teams. During the Ime era in the second half of the year when we were rolling, if this team got out to a big lead it was good night Irene because Ime had a great feel for when his men would start to let their foot off the gas a bit. They would make a few bone head plays and a team would go a quick 5-0 run and bam. Timeout and light a fire under your guys asses to finish a game properly.

Consequently, you can’t teach guys to effect the mindset of your opponent as well. When a team makes a few shots and a few plays and their confidence level starts to rise, it’s the coaches JOB to know when to stem the tide and cool things down. It’s not teaching your guys perseverance, it’s abandoning them on a desert island. I’m all about righting our own ship, but the coach is the leader of men out here and sometimes that requires stepping in to either cool off the opponent, or to rally the troops. Passive aggressive coaching is a loser mentality that will not work and was my biggest fear promoting a Brad disciple to HC.

So were you asleep last night when the Pelicans made a run to cut our lead to 6, most coaches would have called a timeout but Mazzulla let our guys figure it out on their own, we responded with a 5-0 run to push the lead back to 11, making the Pelicans call a timeout instead and from there we cruised to the win?

Oh and there was this too..

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The guy is off to one of the best starts for a 1st year coach in team history. 9 game win streak, best record in the league, without our all-defense starting center and you're complaining?

I was awake. Careful now after your tantrum in the trade thread.
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Post#238 » by Hal14 » Sun Nov 20, 2022 3:13 am

Homerclease wrote:
Hal14 wrote:
Homerclease wrote:I heard this same crap from Brad Stevens. I hated it then and I hate it now. The players are still human beings and that includes both teams. During the Ime era in the second half of the year when we were rolling, if this team got out to a big lead it was good night Irene because Ime had a great feel for when his men would start to let their foot off the gas a bit. They would make a few bone head plays and a team would go a quick 5-0 run and bam. Timeout and light a fire under your guys asses to finish a game properly.

Consequently, you can’t teach guys to effect the mindset of your opponent as well. When a team makes a few shots and a few plays and their confidence level starts to rise, it’s the coaches JOB to know when to stem the tide and cool things down. It’s not teaching your guys perseverance, it’s abandoning them on a desert island. I’m all about righting our own ship, but the coach is the leader of men out here and sometimes that requires stepping in to either cool off the opponent, or to rally the troops. Passive aggressive coaching is a loser mentality that will not work and was my biggest fear promoting a Brad disciple to HC.

So were you asleep last night when the Pelicans made a run to cut our lead to 6, most coaches would have called a timeout but Mazzulla let our guys figure it out on their own, we responded with a 5-0 run to push the lead back to 11, making the Pelicans call a timeout instead and from there we cruised to the win?

Oh and there was this too..

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The guy is off to one of the best starts for a 1st year coach in team history. 9 game win streak, best record in the league, without our all-defense starting center and you're complaining?

I was awake. Careful now after your tantrum in the trade thread.

You're telling me to be careful? Is that a threat? Let's just keep the discussion to basketball, jeez..
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Post#239 » by Homerclease » Sun Nov 20, 2022 3:41 am

Hal14 wrote:
Homerclease wrote:
Hal14 wrote:So were you asleep last night when the Pelicans made a run to cut our lead to 6, most coaches would have called a timeout but Mazzulla let our guys figure it out on their own, we responded with a 5-0 run to push the lead back to 11, making the Pelicans call a timeout instead and from there we cruised to the win?

Oh and there was this too..

Read on Twitter
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The guy is off to one of the best starts for a 1st year coach in team history. 9 game win streak, best record in the league, without our all-defense starting center and you're complaining?

I was awake. Careful now after your tantrum in the trade thread.

You're telling me to be careful? Is that a threat? Let's just keep the discussion to basketball, jeez..

A threat? No, it’s a reminder that you in fact, do the exact same things you cry about in other threads. You of course know this
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Post#240 » by Hal14 » Sun Nov 20, 2022 3:45 am

Homerclease wrote:
Hal14 wrote:
Homerclease wrote:I was awake. Careful now after your tantrum in the trade thread.

You're telling me to be careful? Is that a threat? Let's just keep the discussion to basketball, jeez..

A threat? No, it’s a reminder that you in fact, do the exact same things you cry about in other threads. You of course know this

I'm doing nothing here, except talk basketball.

I'm trying to be civil here..
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