Joe Mazzulla Thread, Head Coach

[Homerclease]

You're telling me to be careful? Is that a threat? Let's just keep the discussion to basketball, jeez..

A threat? No, it’s a reminder that you in fact, do the exact same things you cry about in other threads. You of course know this

Let's just keep the discussion to basketball, please.

What discussion? As I’ve said to you before. You don’t care about other peoples opinions. You care about your opinion coming out of other peoples mouths. There’s no discussion with you until you learn to grow up.

[Parliament10]

A threat? No, it’s a reminder that you in fact, do the exact same things you cry about in other threads. You of course know this

Let's just keep the discussion to basketball, please.

What discussion? As I’ve said to you before. You don’t care about other peoples opinions. You care about your opinion coming out of other peoples mouths. There’s no discussion with you until you learn to grow up.

Let's Relax people. And, stick to the Subject matter.

~ Parl

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Everybody involved seems to agree that not calling some of those TOs is short-term sub-optimal, but intended to give the team experiences to grow.

[sam_I_am]

This may be premature, but the situation is eerily similar to the Warriors. Hear me out, a defendive coach in Mark Jackson gets replaced by coach who implements movement heavy offense in Kerr

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I think you are 100% right. I was thinking there was a little bit of KC Jones replacing Bill Fitch dynamic too even though the players weren’t weary of Udoka’s approach yet, but I like your example better.

[sam_I_am]

Everybody involved seems to agree that not calling some of those TOs is short-term sub-optimal, but intended to give the team experiences to grow rom.

If the players believe in his spin it’s okay. If they start to doubt him the or think the moment is too big for him it could be trouble. I suspect that with the winning we are seeing, it’s all good right now. At the end of the day the way coaches win games is the way KC Jones did it - managing big egos, keeping everybody on the same page, and just being a winner - not just with Xs and Os and time outs.

[chrisab123]

So far so good. I'd still go back to Ime next year but doubt thats going to happen. Hopefully things continue

[steefP2]

So far so good. I'd still go back to Ime next year but doubt thats going to happen. Hopefully things continue

Im genuinely curious as to why ?

[Fencer reregistered]

This may be premature, but the situation is eerily similar to the Warriors. Hear me out, a defendive coach in Mark Jackson gets replaced by coach who implements movement heavy offense in Kerr

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I think you are 100% right. I was thinking there was a little bit of KC Jones replacing Bill Fitch dynamic too even though the players weren’t weary of Udoka’s approach yet, but I like your example better.

Mark Jackson also maltreated employees, albeit in VERY different ways than Ime did.

That said: Mazzulla's schemes seem meant as refinements of Ime's, while Kerr's were a total change from Jackson's. Or perhaps I'm overstating that. Joe is NOT a guy Ime originally brought in.

[FlatearthZorro]

So far so good. I'd still go back to Ime next year but doubt thats going to happen. Hopefully things continue

No way. Dude's obviously toxic, he's motivational to the players, but to me he seems very basic and generic.
I like what Mazzulla has done with the offense and the defense is coming up. Also, we're missing perhaps our best defensive player- Bobby Williams and we're still the 12th best defense, while being an offensive juggernaut. I want no part of Udoka.

[FlatearthZorro]

This may be premature, but the situation is eerily similar to the Warriors. Hear me out, a defendive coach in Mark Jackson gets replaced by coach who implements movement heavy offense in Kerr

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I think you are 100% right. I was thinking there was a little bit of KC Jones replacing Bill Fitch dynamic too even though the players weren’t weary of Udoka’s approach yet, but I like your example better.

Mark Jackson also maltreated employees, albeit in VERY different ways than Ime did.

That said: Mazzulla's schemes seem meant as refinements of Ime's, while Kerr's were a total change from Jackson's. Or perhaps I'm overstating that. Joe is NOT a guy Ime originally brought in.

Ime actually had to be convinced to keep crazy Joe(i like the nickname for Mazzulla).

[Sactowndog]

So far so good. I'd still go back to Ime next year but doubt thats going to happen. Hopefully things continue

No way. Dude's obviously toxic, he's motivational to the players, but to me he seems very basic and generic.
I like what Mazzulla has done with the offense and the defense is coming up. Also, we're missing perhaps our best defensive player- Bobby Williams and we're still the 12th best defense, while being an offensive juggernaut. I want no part of Udoka.

Utah under Will Hardy sits at 12-6 and is currently the top seed in the west. It’s a reasonable question to ask how much Hardy contributed to Boston’s success.

[Hal14]

So far so good. I'd still go back to Ime next year but doubt thats going to happen. Hopefully things continue

No way. Dude's obviously toxic, he's motivational to the players, but to me he seems very basic and generic.
I like what Mazzulla has done with the offense and the defense is coming up. Also, we're missing perhaps our best defensive player- Bobby Williams and we're still the 12th best defense, while being an offensive juggernaut. I want no part of Udoka.

Utah under Will Hardy sits at 12-6 and is currently the top seed in the west. It’s a reasonable question to ask how much Hardy contributed to Boston’s success.

Clearly Hardy can coach.

But Hardy leaves the Celtics staff and now we're the best team in the league. So I don't think we should get carried away giving hardy credit for the success we had last year..

[Triple7]

So far so good. I'd still go back to Ime next year but doubt thats going to happen. Hopefully things continue

Lol. Good riddance to Ime.

[Triple7]

So far so good. I'd still go back to Ime next year but doubt thats going to happen. Hopefully things continue

No way. Dude's obviously toxic, he's motivational to the players, but to me he seems very basic and generic.
I like what Mazzulla has done with the offense and the defense is coming up. Also, we're missing perhaps our best defensive player- Bobby Williams and we're still the 12th best defense, while being an offensive juggernaut. I want no part of Udoka.

Mazulla is way better than Ime in terms of our offense and rotations so far. We know we can defend, and if we can be consistent with our offense, then the team can crank up on our D. Also of Rob comes back, the defense will take off fast.

[zoyathedestroya]

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Don't wanna jinx him but he should win East CotM for Oct/Nov. If saved timeouts count into the votes, it's a landslide win.

[Fencer reregistered]

So if DDR hadn't been lost in space behind Tatum, there would have been a passing lane to a wide open Brown.

[playa-hater]

Only a few reasonable Critics about Joe from us are his lack of timeouts so far. His unwillingness (it seems) to play the hotter hand late between Smart, D White and Brogdon. and perhaps playing old man Al and Tatum too much (mainly Tatum for me)

With that said everything else seems really good/promising. and Yes our defense will kick up a ton when RW comes back.

[BK_2020]

Timeouts don't magically make teams play better. And if it could, when you call a timeout the other team also gets to have a timeout. Runs stop because it's extremely hard for any team to put together a 15-20 point run, not because a coach calls a timeout and tells the players to stop the other guys (and again, if a coach had that kind of power, then the opposing coach could just tell his guys to keep scoring).

[darrendaye]

Timeouts don't magically make teams play better. And if it could, when you call a timeout the other team also gets to have a timeout. Runs stop because it's extremely hard for any team to put together a 15-20 point run, not because a coach calls a timeout and tells the players to stop the other guys (and again, if a coach had that kind of power, then the opposing coach could just tell his guys to keep scoring).

It breaks up the rhythm, but, the slow, roll the ball, walk it up with shot clock unstarted play, accomplishes the same thing.