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Gm 17: Nets (8-9) @ 76ers (8-8) Tue 11/22 7:30 PM

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Re: Gm 17: Nets (8-9) @ 76ers (8-8) Tue 11/22 7:30 PM 

Post#281 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Wed Nov 23, 2022 3:11 am

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Negrodamus wrote:Reed actually hasn't been doing as many dumb mistakes in this game. I wonder if he's turned a corner.


Amazing what a vote of confidence will do for you. In this case, it's not really a vote of confidence... but just knowing he's getting minutes since there isn't another option right now.


Agree, that's usually all it takes with a lot of these guys in the league. Everyone in the NBA is an exceptional basketball player. Reed and Shake especially seem to flourish when they get a lot of minutes. the problem is, they are exactly plug in play reserves which is what we need them to be. If Shake can somehow find a way to become a sixth man/microwave type scorer off the bench for us, it's going to be huge going forward. I think Reed most of the time knows he's on a limited minute count and the first mistake will cost him. Hopefully he's gaining the trust of Doc because he's clearly the second best big man we have on this roster and is more than capable of handling that duty in the playoffs as well. In fact, when the playoffs do start, I don't expect to see much of Harrell at all.
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Re: Gm 17: Nets (8-9) @ 76ers (8-8) Tue 11/22 7:30 PM 

Post#282 » by FlyingArrow » Wed Nov 23, 2022 3:14 am

ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:I'm gonna say it, I think Doc deserves some credit for this game. He's been known to do this in the past with other teams he's coached. He has a way of getting guys who are normally reserve players to give maximum effort when his teams are undermanned. I noticed it with the Clippers a couple years back before Leonard got there. He did it a few times during his Boston years when injuries piled up for them as well. The man can coach basketball, I don't think anyone can argue that. It's his rotations and unwillingness to try new things that get him burned. Now he has no choice, his hand is forced. The thing is, everyone on this team can play at a high level. We're a lot deeper than we've been in the past, I think if we can tread water until the big guns get back, we'll be ok.


So we're giving him credit for wasting good players on the bench. So that when they do get a chance to play and prove they deserve minutes, he gets credit for that game when he had no choice to play them? Nope. I'm still in the fire Doc camp.
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Re: Gm 17: Nets (8-9) @ 76ers (8-8) Tue 11/22 7:30 PM 

Post#283 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Wed Nov 23, 2022 3:15 am

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ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:I'm gonna say it, I think Doc deserves some credit for this game. He's been known to do this in the past with other teams he's coached. He has a way of getting guys who are normally reserve players to give maximum effort when his teams are undermanned. I noticed it with the Clippers a couple years back before Leonard got there. He did it a few times during his Boston years when injuries piled up for them as well. The man can coach basketball, I don't think anyone can argue that. It's his rotations and unwillingness to try new things that get him burned. Now he has no choice, his hand is forced. The thing is, everyone on this team can play at a high level. We're a lot deeper than we've been in the past, I think if we can tread water until the big guns get back, we'll be ok.


Most (not all) stars and superstars players also played at their best with Doc. Hell even TMac played at his best with Doc, so was Jojo.

The key is everyone has to sacrifice and play like a team.


I agree. I also think Doc needs to trust his reserves more than what he's shown so far. We're a deep team. Shake can handle a scoring role off the bench, he just needs more time to find a rhythm. Not to stray from the current topic, but I think Shake getting buckets for us off the bench is absolutely key for this team in terms of depth, and taking pressure off the starters. Once we're healthy, I fully expect our reserves to be playing a lot more confident than they did to start the year and it will be because of this current situation that we're dealing with. These guys Milton, Shake, Niang, House are being forced to play big time meaningful minutes in games that actually do matter despite it being regular season. Maxey, Harden, Jo being out is not a good thing at all, but it may actually help us long term due to these guys getting more development and continuity with each other. The goal should be to have your second unit play like their own team.
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Re: Gm 17: Nets (8-9) @ 76ers (8-8) Tue 11/22 7:30 PM 

Post#284 » by DCasey91 » Wed Nov 23, 2022 3:16 am

Just a healthy reminder to Doc to utilise everyone on the playing list!

All the top teams do it, no reason to play Embiid/Harden close to 40mins a night in a meaningless regular season game.

No role player deserves big minutes except for Melton because he can fit into any iteration of a 5 man setup you want to play.

You must ride the variance as much as you can. That’s where Milton/Korkmaz’s value lies. If Thybulle hits 2 threes he’s infinitely more valuable than House whose consistent doo doo.

I don’t want to see a Harris situation on the Nets just then for us ever. It’s dumb and illogical

Hopefully Doc learns something it’s this.
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Re: Gm 17: Nets (8-9) @ 76ers (8-8) Tue 11/22 7:30 PM 

Post#285 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Wed Nov 23, 2022 3:17 am

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ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:I'm gonna say it, I think Doc deserves some credit for this game. He's been known to do this in the past with other teams he's coached. He has a way of getting guys who are normally reserve players to give maximum effort when his teams are undermanned. I noticed it with the Clippers a couple years back before Leonard got there. He did it a few times during his Boston years when injuries piled up for them as well. The man can coach basketball, I don't think anyone can argue that. It's his rotations and unwillingness to try new things that get him burned. Now he has no choice, his hand is forced. The thing is, everyone on this team can play at a high level. We're a lot deeper than we've been in the past, I think if we can tread water until the big guns get back, we'll be ok.


So we're giving him credit for wasting good players on the bench. So that when they do get a chance to play and prove they deserve minutes, he gets credit for that game when he had no choice to play them? Nope. I'm still in the fire Doc camp.


Whatever, I'm not gonna argue with you. It was a great win. Go take your confrontational negative energy elsewhere. Sixers win! It was a beautiful thing!!!!! WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
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Re: Gm 17: Nets (8-9) @ 76ers (8-8) Tue 11/22 7:30 PM 

Post#286 » by Murray_17 » Wed Nov 23, 2022 3:17 am

Also i hope this is the turning point for Melton with his 3s and he finally goes back to his career %
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Re: Gm 17: Nets (8-9) @ 76ers (8-8) Tue 11/22 7:30 PM 

Post#287 » by DCasey91 » Wed Nov 23, 2022 3:21 am

Wouldn’t be worried at all on Melton’s shooting splits, he has excellent utility and coverage which no other role player we have even comes close to.

2nd season now in the top 20 in defensive rating, defensive +- and top 20 in steals and steal%. Keeper.
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Re: Gm 17: Nets (8-9) @ 76ers (8-8) Tue 11/22 7:30 PM 

Post#288 » by Andrew Toney » Wed Nov 23, 2022 3:21 am

Murray_17 wrote:Also i hope this is the turning point for Melton with his 3s and he finally goes back to his career %


He was incredible tonight
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Re: Gm 17: Nets (8-9) @ 76ers (8-8) Tue 11/22 7:30 PM 

Post#289 » by Mik317 » Wed Nov 23, 2022 3:21 am

this win makes me happy

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Re: Gm 17: Nets (8-9) @ 76ers (8-8) Tue 11/22 7:30 PM 

Post#290 » by 9th Wonder » Wed Nov 23, 2022 3:25 am

Man, how much fun was that?? The crowd all over Simmons, Niang going at KD, Tucker's D, BBall Paul showing out, the hustle and energy on D and on the boards and all those threes dropping. Haven't had that much fun watching a game in a long time!
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Re: Gm 17: Nets (8-9) @ 76ers (8-8) Tue 11/22 7:30 PM 

Post#291 » by bball4life » Wed Nov 23, 2022 3:28 am

Harrell -10, Reed +21. Reed is superior in every facet of the game and should come in the game before Harrell in every conceivable situation
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Re: Gm 17: Nets (8-9) @ 76ers (8-8) Tue 11/22 7:30 PM 

Post#292 » by FlyingArrow » Wed Nov 23, 2022 3:30 am

9th Wonder wrote:Man, how much fun was that?? The crowd all over Simmons, Niang going at KD, Tucker's D, BBall Paul showing out, the hustle and energy on D and on the boards and all those threes dropping. Haven't had that much fun watching a game in a long time!


Tell us what you saw. I admit that I don't pay that much attention to what he's doing on defense, but that is in fact why he's here. He's also supposed to hit open 3s, and I expected an average of 2 of those per game. He's averaging less than one (though on good percentage). Is his defense actually making up for his nothing on offense?
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Re: Gm 17: Nets (8-9) @ 76ers (8-8) Tue 11/22 7:30 PM 

Post#293 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Wed Nov 23, 2022 3:31 am

bball4life wrote:Harrell -10, Reed +21. Reed is superior in every facet of the game and should come in the game before Harrell in every conceivable situation


I agree, and that will happen anyway. Harrell is a filler for the regular season. He can help you win in January and February, but he's unplayable in a playoff atmosphere. Reed will be the first big off the bench when it really matters. Not that I don't like Harrell. He's a thug, he plays with an attitude, kind of a gangster, bit of a goon...We needed a couple of them on this team. He helps, just not in the way Reed does.
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Re: Gm 17: Nets (8-9) @ 76ers (8-8) Tue 11/22 7:30 PM 

Post#294 » by Mik317 » Wed Nov 23, 2022 3:39 am

lol Foster played 32 secs...and got cut
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Re: Gm 17: Nets (8-9) @ 76ers (8-8) Tue 11/22 7:30 PM 

Post#295 » by Murray_17 » Wed Nov 23, 2022 3:40 am

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Re: Gm 17: Nets (8-9) @ 76ers (8-8) Tue 11/22 7:30 PM 

Post#296 » by sodmoraes » Wed Nov 23, 2022 3:42 am

Great win. I will eat some crow, i tought Montrez would be a great signup. The Man is beyond washed, lost all his athletic ability...
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Re: Gm 17: Nets (8-9) @ 76ers (8-8) Tue 11/22 7:30 PM 

Post#297 » by Eyeamok » Wed Nov 23, 2022 3:47 am

Eyeamok wrote:But what if the 76ers win? It would go down as one of the greatest games ever......on a Tuesday in November.


Holly crap man you were right.
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Re: Gm 17: Nets (8-9) @ 76ers (8-8) Tue 11/22 7:30 PM 

Post#298 » by Eyeamok » Wed Nov 23, 2022 3:48 am

Jailblazers7 wrote:Sixers will win. Shake drops 40, Trez sh*t talks Ben back into his cave, and Tobias shows the world what a true max level player looks like. Gotta be like Lavar Ball and speak it into existence.


Good call man. Well done. Keep that energy positive.
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Re: Gm 17: Nets (8-9) @ 76ers (8-8) Tue 11/22 7:30 PM 

Post#299 » by HardenGoat » Wed Nov 23, 2022 3:53 am

That was an awesome win. It’s games like these that give perspective on what is available and where the strength of the bench can be had. Obviously a deep bench here. We almost won the last game against a full strength team so this is no fluke. Let’s just enjoy what we found out. This might help us land a good player from the buyout market.
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Re: Gm 17: Nets (8-9) @ 76ers (8-8) Tue 11/22 7:30 PM 

Post#300 » by Jay555 » Wed Nov 23, 2022 3:57 am

Melton is soooo good.

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