Fake Trade Thread #4

[JMAC3]

I get that, but realistically 3 out of the top 4 projected picks play guard so chances of DSJ playing large role is even slimmer.

Then add in Melo, Theo, Rozier, Martin, Bouk and McGowens on top of guys that could be back next year as well then I am on let's trade him for something now boat.

I would be trying to take swings on failed prospects that play forward.

Assuming Mark is deserving of minutes we should have center rotation locked up for a few years with him, Nick and Kai as we rebuild around Melo and top 5 pick.

[nature_boyy97]

The more I think about it...should we extend Oubre? He's playing lights out and I'd rather have him coming off the bench putting up 20 a night for us than for the Mavs or somebody.

Could be a good insurance policy incase McDaniels or PJ don't work out in the long run.

[CuseMayne]

The more I think about it...should we extend Oubre? He's playing lights out and I'd rather have him coming off the bench putting up 20 a night for us than for the Mavs or somebody.

Could be a good insurance policy incase McDaniels or PJ don't work out in the long run.

Yeah I'm with it if it's a reasonable deal. He's a solid piece when considering everything. At full strength, he's a WELL ABOVE AVERAGE bench piece that can start in a pinch.

[CuseMayne]

I'd probably get sick if we traded DSJ

Really? He is a UFA, so chances he comes back are very slim unless we want to overpay him. Why would he sign with a tanking team instead of a contender for the bi-annual exception for example?

I'm just merely stating we finally have stability at the PG position, and I'd like to keep that stability.

Oh, I strongly want him to re-sign long term. He's a great fit next to LaMelo. The sooner we can lock him in the better.

[Liver_Pooty]

Oubre is having a damn solid season thus far. He's still does some mind blowingly ignorant things at times. But he's played well overall.

[nature_boyy97]

Only thing is a lotta guys gotta eat. Assuming we're extending DSJ, PJ, Nick. If we give a contract to Oubre too we're locked into this roster unless we finally offload Rozier + Hayward.

[fatlever]

The more I think about it...should we extend Oubre? He's playing lights out and I'd rather have him coming off the bench putting up 20 a night for us than for the Mavs or somebody.

Could be a good insurance policy incase McDaniels or PJ don't work out in the long run.

Yeah I'm with it if it's a reasonable deal. He's a solid piece when considering everything. At full strength, he's a WELL ABOVE AVERAGE bench piece that can start in a pinch.

no! don't do it. he'll cost 10-15/year to resign. he's still a trainwreck defensively, despite the steals. shooting 32% 3s on a ton a volume. not good in a bench role. wont be happy in a bench role. doesnt make others better. there will be others to replicate for cheaper.

DSJ has to be priority over kelly. we need defenders, ball movers, guys who make others better.

[Rich4114]

The more I think about it...should we extend Oubre? He's playing lights out and I'd rather have him coming off the bench putting up 20 a night for us than for the Mavs or somebody.

Could be a good insurance policy incase McDaniels or PJ don't work out in the long run.

Yeah I'm with it if it's a reasonable deal. He's a solid piece when considering everything. At full strength, he's a WELL ABOVE AVERAGE bench piece that can start in a pinch.

no! don't do it. he'll cost 10-15/year to resign. he's still a trainwreck defensively, despite the steals. shooting 32% 3s on a ton a volume. not good in a bench role. wont be happy in a bench role. doesnt make others better. there will be others to replicate for cheaper.

DSJ has to be priority over kelly. we need defenders, ball movers, guys who make others better.

This. Kelly is a lot like Rozier but worse. The more you’re committed to them financially and the more they play the less winning you will do. We had a perfect role for Kelly last season before injuries and Covid made him more of a featured player. He and Terry are the ultimate empty stat tank commanders as proven by the way this season is going. This also makes me feel much more comfortable that LaMelo, despite his sometimes carless plays is actually a big contributor to winning because of what he does besides scoring. Has a lot of growth yet, but Kelly and Terry are 100% best suited for brief scoring jolts off the bench where the other team is focusing on stopping someone else. So in short, can’t resign Kelly for what he’ll get.

Trade Terry for whatever you can get and either let Plumlee or Kelly expire or try to move them for future draft compensation or prospects. All of them can probably be added to a larger deal depending on what else we might give up.

People need to look beyond individual stats and focus on win contribution.

[CuseMayne]

Yeah I'm with it if it's a reasonable deal. He's a solid piece when considering everything. At full strength, he's a WELL ABOVE AVERAGE bench piece that can start in a pinch.

no! don't do it. he'll cost 10-15/year to resign. he's still a trainwreck defensively, despite the steals. shooting 32% 3s on a ton a volume. not good in a bench role. wont be happy in a bench role. doesnt make others better. there will be others to replicate for cheaper.

DSJ has to be priority over kelly. we need defenders, ball movers, guys who make others better.

This. Kelly is a lot like Rozier but worse. The more you’re committed to them financially and the more they play the less winning you will do. We had a perfect role for Kelly last season before injuries and Covid made him more of a featured player. He and Terry are the ultimate empty stat tank commanders as proven by the way this season is going. This also makes me feel much more comfortable that LaMelo, despite his sometimes carless plays is actually a big contributor to winning because of what he does besides scoring. Has a lot of growth yet, but Kelly and Terry are 100% best suited for brief scoring jolts off the bench where the other team is focusing on stopping someone else. So in short, can’t resign Kelly for what he’ll get.

Trade Terry for whatever you can get and either let Plumlee or Kelly expire or try to move them for future draft compensation or prospects. All of them can probably be added to a larger deal depending on what else we might give up.

People need to look beyond individual stats and focus on win contribution.

Good point. Oubre will probably want too much. It's a shame we can't get him for a Cody Martin type deal. He does make a lot of frustrating plays, but when he's on he's on, which is perfect for a scoring bench role. And when he puts his mind to it, he makes defensive plays, but obviously there are way more lapses than positive defensive plays. He's an interesting player to try and pinpoint how valuable he actually is.

[Braggins]

Resigning Oubre would be one of the worst things the front office could do. Hes just a bad player who has had negative impact his entire career. This year is even his contract year effort and hes still a negative player. He is a good tank commander, though.

[luciano-davidwesley]

Oubre is having a damn solid season thus far. He's still does some mind blowingly ignorant things at times. But he's played well overall.

I'm in the trade him if we get value for him camp.

[Diop]

Oubre is having a damn solid season thus far. He's still does some mind blowingly ignorant things at times. But he's played well overall.

I'm in the trade him if we get value for him camp.

yep, I agree he's had a solid year which is great for Charlotte and should make him reasonably easy to trade for something,

[SWedd523]

Oubre is having a damn solid season thus far. He's still does some mind blowingly ignorant things at times. But he's played well overall.

I'm in the trade him if we get value for him camp.

he needs to be traded regardless. He's an expiring piece we aren't going to bring back so you get whatever you can for him while he's still tradeable

[SWedd523]

same for Mase

[luciano-davidwesley]

Oubre is having a damn solid season thus far. He's still does some mind blowingly ignorant things at times. But he's played well overall.

I'm in the trade him if we get value for him camp.

he needs to be traded regardless. He's an expiring piece we aren't going to bring back so you get whatever you can for him while he's still tradeable

Hence why I said "if we get value for him". If no one is prepared to do so we let him expire.

[SWedd523]

I'm in the trade him if we get value for him camp.

he needs to be traded regardless. He's an expiring piece we aren't going to bring back so you get whatever you can for him while he's still tradeable

Hence why I said "if we get value for him". If no one is prepared to do so we let him expire.

Somebody would be willing to send a second for each of them

[luciano-davidwesley]

he needs to be traded regardless. He's an expiring piece we aren't going to bring back so you get whatever you can for him while he's still tradeable

Hence why I said "if we get value for him". If no one is prepared to do so we let him expire.

Somebody would be willing to send a second for each of them

If that happens they should both be traded. So we agree we agree?

[JDR720]

Yeah, I'm in the don't resign Ourbe camp.

He's a bench volume scorer. Not that those players can't be useful, but not when they get paid a lot and play too many minutes. Because all they do is score in volume.

His stats this season are pretty much the same as his last season with the Suns. Although this season he has 1 more turnover than assist.

[SWedd523]

"Pistons no longer consider Saddiq Bey off limits"


S&T Miles right meow

[JMAC3]

"Pistons no longer consider Saddiq Bey off limits"


S&T Miles right meow

Is it not concerning Bey has looked horrible and a team that is rebuilding is willing to give up on him at age 23?
The same team that is fine with trying to develop Hayes and Bagley?

I am not saying we shouldn't kick the tree and see if he shakes loose, but I would be very careful on how much I gave up for him.

He is a career 40% shooter from the field (NOT from 3) which is pretty concerning for a 6-7 player that mainly is known as shooter.