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Re: Milton/Korkmaz/Thybulle 

Post#21 » by DCasey91 » Sat Oct 22, 2022 9:44 pm

The in house stuff is correct though my approach would be to always top up on cheap young talent on multiple year contracts from other teams.

Project, underplayed, fringe who cares they are young. The league is stacked with this sort of stuff so why not capitalise on it? I think it’s a huge goldmine. Even if you hit on 1/4 you get a long term player that’s most importantly young!

The front office has gone way overboard with one year “vet” rentals and holding onto non quality. What I mean is they’ve all had more than enough time and they’ve all not got it. Sweet wish you luck time to move on.

Like an example Goga? Yes please. Who cares he’s young and fills a need

Simons? Duh would have given Thybulle in a microsecond.

Keep reloading on capital/talent.

Heck Springer would be in the firing line if we look at reality properly.

This is too late now as Embiid is 28 we should have been doing this method for years now.

In my honest opinion both Joe and Bassey has more intangibles to make it but for me we’ve ruined their development/chances.

And don’t give me this well if they were playing well etc. nepotism is very very real. If they had a leash as long as other fringe types on our list I’m sure they would have shown a lot more than what is known from other players.
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Re: Milton/Korkmaz/Thybulle 

Post#22 » by HardenGoat » Sat Oct 22, 2022 11:28 pm

We are missing a true 3-D wing and another ball handler. My hope is by the deadline it will a buyers market with teams looking to blow it up and tank for Scoot or Wenbayama . At that point Harris could be packaged with a pick to get someone with serious athleticism and scoring potential. Harris just doesn’t really fit with what the team needs and has a salary that could fill two spots. He would be a perfect tank commander.
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Post#23 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Sat Oct 22, 2022 11:45 pm

It's early but I'm already ready to see if Thybulle has improved his three. Shake and Kork are starting to look good as well.
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Post#24 » by phillynative » Thu Nov 24, 2022 2:24 pm

Shake look like hes turning the corner. Hopefully he can maintain this confidence when the stars come back.
Matisse and Furk are banged up but I think Mattise will be traded. Doc seems to favor Danuel House over both and it would make since. Furk is inconsistent cannot defend and Matisse is bad offensive player. Problem is Danuel House is average on both ends as well.

Need a starting caliber wing. I think the team is set in the guard department.
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Post#25 » by Kobblehead » Thu Nov 24, 2022 2:38 pm

This is what I was saying. If you play the guys you've drafted and developed into their mid-20s, the quality of play and chemistry is just flatout going to be superior.

Milton should have been playing 20+ mpg from day 1 because he's a multi-tool player (playmaking, shooting).

The only guy that we brought in from outside the organization that should have had a rotation spot right away is Melton because, he too, is multi-tool (defense, playmaking, shooting).

1 (tangible) tool guys like House (shooting) and Tucker (shooting) should have been scratching and clawing for playing time like our other 1 tool guys like Niang (shooting), Thybulle (defense), and Korkmaz (shooting). And the in-house guys should have had the right of way. That's how you keep chemistry strong.
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Post#26 » by spikeslovechild » Thu Nov 24, 2022 2:45 pm

These guys are fools gold. I am glad Korkmaz is playing better as is Milton but I don't trust either of them enough to give a large bench role
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Post#27 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Thu Nov 24, 2022 2:55 pm

I think if given consistent minutes/opportunity, Shake can be very valuable moving forward. The thing is, he has to be in a position to do what he does best which is score. When he's on the floor, he has to be the first or second option. Doc needs to trust him. Rest Harden and Maxey together and let M&M be the backcourt for a few minutes. Korkmaz to me is more of a hired gun off the bench. Unlike Shake who needs to find a rhythm in order to get going, Kork can come in and bomb away as soon as his feet his the floor. When he's on, he's a big time asset, when he's not, he's useless.
Thybulle is starting to look like the odd man out. He's shooting with more confidence, but the shots aren't falling. He's a depth player at this point and he's insurance in case of injury.
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Post#28 » by Kobblehead » Thu Nov 24, 2022 3:03 pm

spikeslovechild wrote:These guys are fools gold. I am glad Korkmaz is playing better as is Milton but I don't trust either of them enough to give a large bench role

There's no argument against Milton in a 20 minute role, at this point. There's nobody on this roster in slots 9-15 better than him.

Korkmaz and Thybulle aren't ideal for huge roles, but they're better than we have there now (Danuel House).
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Post#29 » by Kobblehead » Thu Nov 24, 2022 3:04 pm

P.J. Tucker is a walking meme, at this point.

He gives up 2nd chance points by the boatload, he's getting threes splashed in his face by every F he tries to guard, and he's the least productive 25+ mpg player in the entire NBA from a scoring standpoint. I thought Wilson Chandler was the most cooked starter I've even seen when we had him, but P.J. blows him out of the water.
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Post#30 » by phillynative » Thu Nov 24, 2022 3:20 pm

Kobblehead wrote:This is what I was saying. If you play the guys you've drafted and developed into their mid-20s, the quality of play and chemistry is just flatout going to be superior.

Milton should have been playing 20+ mpg from day 1 because he's a multi-tool player (playmaking, shooting).

The only guy that we brought in from outside the organization that should have had a rotation spot right away is Melton because, he too, is multi-tool (defense, playmaking, shooting).

1 (tangible) tool guys like House (shooting) and Tucker (shooting) should have been scratching and clawing for playing time like our other 1 tool guys like Niang (shooting), Thybulle (defense), and Korkmaz (shooting). And the in-house guys should have had the right of way. That's how you keep chemistry strong.


I agree with everything your saying except I think they believe House is a 2way player lol
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Post#31 » by ankle420breaker » Thu Nov 24, 2022 5:24 pm

Shake has been steady as of late and should be guy to fill that 4th guard role in the rotation given his size and ability to distribute/create offense.

A silver lining to these injuries has been watching Melton and Milton co-exist and provide a collaborative scoring punch. We'll need them to produce in their reserve roles so hopefully they're able to build off this.

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Post#32 » by DCasey91 » Thu Nov 24, 2022 8:56 pm

spikeslovechild wrote:These guys are fools gold. I am glad Korkmaz is playing better as is Milton but I don't trust either of them enough to give a large bench role


You don’t but Doc must play variance to the teams advantage it’s how you get the best out of them. If Thybulle hits 2 threes and that’s it he provides more value than House/Tucker but that’s only.

Korklord is just as likely to go 0/3 and 1/2 at the free throw line then he is 3/3 and 2/2 at the line and that to me is a good thing.

A hockey style quick change approach is a must imo. Don’t have the juice after 5mins? Have a spell we have a few too many on the list that must operate the same way.

Nets played Harris for the whole game and we won because of it. I do know Doc is going to play a role player far too many minutes in a playoff game when he’s sucking worse than a adult movie star but it is what it is.
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Re: Milton/Korkmaz/Thybulle 

Post#33 » by spikeslovechild » Thu Nov 24, 2022 11:32 pm

Kobblehead wrote:
spikeslovechild wrote:These guys are fools gold. I am glad Korkmaz is playing better as is Milton but I don't trust either of them enough to give a large bench role

There's no argument against Milton in a 20 minute role, at this point. There's nobody on this roster in slots 9-15 better than him.

Korkmaz and Thybulle aren't ideal for huge roles, but they're better than we have there now (Danuel House).


At this moment sure there is no argument. Harden is injured. Maxey is injured.

I don't want to sound overly critical of them because I am not. I am glad they have stepped up but I need to see more than a handful of games to wipe away how awful they played last year.

And when harden and maxey both eventually come back Milton is not going to be playing 20M a game. Not with Melton playing well. Maybe he creeps into Houses minutes but House was essentially a 15m guy before the injuries too. Unless Milton tightens his handle and shows he help run the offense with Harden off the court there isn't a large role for him.

Right now he has a TOV of over 20. Which just makes him another guard for us. Throw him into the pot with Korkmaz and House and give the most minutes to whoever is hot.
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Re: Milton/Korkmaz/Thybulle 

Post#34 » by LeonJordanJr24 » Sat Nov 26, 2022 8:53 am

spikeslovechild wrote:
Kobblehead wrote:
spikeslovechild wrote:These guys are fools gold. I am glad Korkmaz is playing better as is Milton but I don't trust either of them enough to give a large bench role

There's no argument against Milton in a 20 minute role, at this point. There's nobody on this roster in slots 9-15 better than him.

Korkmaz and Thybulle aren't ideal for huge roles, but they're better than we have there now (Danuel House).


At this moment sure there is no argument. Harden is injured. Maxey is injured.

I don't want to sound overly critical of them because I am not. I am glad they have stepped up but I need to see more than a handful of games to wipe away how awful they played last year.

And when harden and maxey both eventually come back Milton is not going to be playing 20M a game. Not with Melton playing well. Maybe he creeps into Houses minutes but House was essentially a 15m guy before the injuries too. Unless Milton tightens his handle and shows he help run the offense with Harden off the court there isn't a large role for him.

Right now he has a TOV of over 20. Which just makes him another guard for us. Throw him into the pot with Korkmaz and House and give the most minutes to whoever is hot.




Milton has the length and versatility to play in 3 guard lineups. He's fine. He actually proved to be a playable playoff bench player as well for us over the years.

Thybulle and Korkmaz are totally expendable.
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Re: Milton/Korkmaz/Thybulle 

Post#35 » by rzzzzz » Sat Nov 26, 2022 2:26 pm

I always assumed that Milton was initially knocked out of the rotation by injury, repeatedly. If he is finally healthy, these injuries forcing Doc’s hand is obviously a blessing for him, and B Ball for that matter. Melton arrived here definitely in our plans, and has gone a long way to make Thybulle expendable. If there was anything to year 3 Korkmaz left, this is it. Just a few hot hand minutes should give him enough time to buy his way into this depleted line-up. But I’ll be happily stunned if he can pull it off.

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