Do you honestly believe Mosley is an NBA caliber head coach?

[fateis007]

I get it. We have injuries. It is the only thing that has saved Mosleys career to date, being a tank commander and injuries, hes a nice guy, a players coach.

But tonight really for me paints a picture.

We go up against a team, with their 3 best players down, and us having our 2 best players. And we lose both games, one of them getting embarassed infront of our home crowd with a blow out.

Is a Philly squad without Embiid, Harden, Maxey really that much better then us? Or is Doc rivers completely out coaching a guy who has no business being a head coach?

With that said, here is a poll.

Lets get a general consensus on if Mosley really belongs at the helm of any team.

[thelead]

Too hard to tell when he’s not fielding a full NBA roster and has the youngest team in the league.

[SOUL]

I kind of hate how you framed this. Paolo is our best player in the future, or it will look like it, but he's still a rookie. They are horrendously inefficient and don't add much to the team their rookie years. Wagner is really solid, still, 2nd year guy.

We are also missing 8 rotation guys which you left out.

To answer? Who knows. He hasn't had anybody to work with for an extended amount of time. We've had some surprise wins this year and competed well besides this week, which has been even worse with injuries.

The Spurs are 1-13 with Popovich the last 14 games and have injuries and not much talent. Did he forget how to coach? Having a mixture of no shooting, no players, and a bunch of young guys is always full of growing pains.

[ORLMagicGirl15]

Coach Mosley, have never coached a fully heathy roster. While some of his decision making are questionable, to judge him so harsh when our injury list and roster looks like it does, isn’t fair. Is there things that he can do immediately to hold the players accountable—possibly—but when most of your players are injured how do you hold the healthy one’s accountable when they need to be out on the floor?

[fateis007]

I kind of hate how you framed this. Paolo is our best player in the future, or it will look like it, but he's still a rookie. They are horrendously inefficient and don't add much to the team their rookie years. Wagner is really solid, still, 2nd year guy.

We are also missing 8 rotation guys which you left out.

To answer? Who knows. He hasn't had anybody to work with for an extended amount of time. We've had some surprise wins this year and competed well besides this week, which has been even worse with injuries.

The Spurs are 1-13 with Popovich the last 14 games and have injuries and not much talent. Did he forget how to coach? Having a mixture of no shooting, no players, and a bunch of young guys is always full of growing pains.

I have made it known I dont think he is a good coach. But I am not voting on the poll. I really want to know what people think. And the first sentence I put, was that I get it, we have injuries. But so do they.

I understand your point. But I do not agree that Paolo isn't our best player. He was used terribly tonight. There is so many ways you can use a player like him to score and draw defense, like how about posting up a guy who is 250 lbs and stop using him on high screen and rolls all game and standing on the 3 pt line.

[SOUL]

He isn't infallibly defensible either. Zones, switching, some sub patters (but injury related as well) - that haven't been my favorite, but I just think it's incredibly hard to do anything with much consistency when you have 5-8 guys out every game and people coming and going every game.

Even running certain plays, it's just hard to do with our personnel. I saw some stuff for Harris or Ross which makes sense since they're our best shooters that are healthy.. otherwise.. it's just put the ball in the hands of Franz and Paolo and hope things work our. It gets a bit easier with Suggs and WCJ doing dirty work things defensively, but still, our current offensive abilities of our personnel don't lend itself to the kind of plays certain posters expect. Our best plays are quite literally just attacking the rim 24/7.

[SOUL]

I understand your point. But I do not agree that Paolo isn't our best player. He was used terribly tonight. There is so many ways you can use a player like him to score and draw defense, like how about posting up a guy who is 250 lbs and stop using him on high screen and rolls all game and standing on the 3 pt line.

It's not that I don't agree he's our best player, it's just that the value of that distinction doesn't really apply itself in rookie seasons, more so than any sport, Rookie LeBrons and Durants are really good and not game changers that can match up to 5-6 year vets who are all-stars. I'd say current Tobias is what Banchero's value is in terms of advanced impact.

Again though, prior to the injury, Banchero was doing a lot of this stuff. He also had different personnel. I'd chalk it up more towards Banchero getting back into the groove of things after his ankle injury + trying to find his way with Bol/Bamba/Franz.

I don't think coaches tell players to lolligag or not work to their strengths. Some games, some guys just don't have it or have the energy. I believe Paolo will get back on track sooner than later.

When everybody is healthy though, yes, I'd like to see Banchero initiate the offense more and get into specific spots with more regularity.

[tiderulz]

Too hard to tell when he’s not fielding a full NBA roster and has the youngest team in the league.

i believe we have the 3rd youngest team, behind OKC and Houston.

[Knightro]

Honestly I have no idea and I don't think anyone can really judge him fairly for two reasons.

1. Legitimate or not, this team has had an ungodly amount of injuries in his 100+ games as coach.

2. Right or wrong, the front office essentially instructed him to roll the ball out and let the guys do whatever they want and he's following his marching orders.

[SHAQ32]

Do you believe the Magic are an NBA calibre organization?

[The-Stallion70]

I think he still gets a pass because of injuries but man, he sure hasn't given us any pleasant surprises either, like somehow coaching the team to wins even with guys out. We had our two best players out there and still got smacked.

[Def Swami]

It's so hard to say. My one takeaway from Mosely last season was I thought he kept the team motivated throughout a lost season. I thought players played hard consistently, which is tough when you're playing for a top 5 pick after the trade deadline.

I also think he's probably as frustrated as us with all of the injuries. It's so hard to coach a team if you can't even rely on a guy to be available game to game, practice to practice, or one quarter to another. It's so hard to build anything with that.

At the same time, certain things are on coaching too. Protecting the ball on offense, transition defense, and turnovers have consistently crushed us in every loss. Any coach that is serious about winning games will instill those 3 principles at the outset. This team feels like it makes the mistakes of a college team. And maybe that's because the players are still really young and inexperienced. But, my hope is for the coaching staff to help teach these guys how to play a winning basketball.

At the same time, if your front office has no interest in winning and is purposely holding out players longer than they need to in order to give itself a chance at a high lottery pick, then maybe it's all moot.

[Optimus_Steel]

Do you believe the Magic are an NBA calibre organization?

Given the utter lack of care for results the Devos have shown then no.

In terms of Mosley, he has been an assistant for 14 years so certainly deserving of a chance but the Magic front office has not given him a proper and functional roster to determine if he is a capable head coach or just a career assistant.

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[D12VCMagic]

It doesn’t really matter. He wasn’t hired to win games. There is a reason why Steve Clifford walked away, the plan was always to tank hard.

[drsd]

The players like him, and he is very hand's-on. A trainers-coach if you will.

Xs and Os are really a thing at this level. Players need to hit shots; that's not on coach. The NBA is a shooter's league after all.

Overall I think he is a perfect coach for the current team. As constructed, this roster is about individual improvements rather than team development.

For me a more relevant question is, "Can Coach Mosely develop a winning tradition"? I fear the answer there might be a NO. Losing is infectious and getting from bad to mediocre is hard.


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[Ralof]

Is a Philly squad without Embiid, Harden, Maxey really that much better then us?

Yes it is.

[drsd]

Is a Philly squad without Embiid, Harden, Maxey really that much better then us?

Yes it is.

The Sixers started a combo-guard, a SG, two PFs, and a C.
The Magic started a SG, three PFs, and a C.

And guard play won two games for the Sixers. Why would that be surprising for us fans?

Orlando needs guards on the court.

[Skybox]

I like Mosley for this team. He has (until last night), for the most part, kept them engaged and giving effort. I don't care about losing but I don't think losing badly does anything but set us back. His rep is as a defensive coach and young athletic guys should be able to put up a better fight defensively (at least). My theory is that he embraced the "Defensive Guru" thing and created an overly complex system that our guys can't handle. Faced with tremendous turnover due to injuries, you need to keep it simple (like Cliff). Clifford has no interest in a rebuild, but his angles are a perfect fit...keep it simple, no turnovers, give up no offensive rebounds, stay home. Maybe Mose is clinging to his "Young Coach takes the league by storm Defensive Scheme" when he needs to see he doesn't have the guys to do it right now (if ever)...this is a wild guess, just a theory. Young guys with a rotating roster makes me think-the simpler the better.

On the other hand, I see no reason to not hang in there with Mose...unless you can get a proven blue-chipper like Quin Snyder (who would have NO questions like this). I certainly wouldn't move Mose and then throw in a Jacque Vaughn-type placeholder. Snyder is the only one I can think of that I would quickly move out Mose...sort of like if a clearly better player becomes available in a trade.

[fendilim]

Yes. The fact that NBA players play hard for him every night, I do believe he is an NBA coach.

As a championship head coach? Hard to say, but that is possible. Even before these injuries happened, Mosley has already contemplated using 3 7’0” in a lineup. It shows that he is innovative and open to ideas, and that’s a good trait to have.

[drsd]

Yes. The fact that NBA players play hard for him every night, I do believe he is an NBA coach.

As a championship head coach? Hard to say, but that is possible. Even before these injuries happened, Mosley has already contemplated using 3 7’0” in a lineup. It shows that he is innovative and open to ideas, and that’s a good trait to have.

Paul Westhead had a 183-224 record coaching in the NBA, and won a championship.

But worst Championship coach is probably Dick Motta. At least in the modern day. (Not considering coaches of the 40s and 50s).

So, if Mosely sucks but also wins a title in Orlando, I am really ok with that


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