Game 12: Packers at Eagles - 7:20 PM - NBC
Moderators: paulpressey25, MickeyDavis, humanrefutation
Re: Game 12: Packers at Eagles - 7:20 PM - NBC
- Dennis Reynolds
- Lead Assistant
- Posts: 5,643
- And1: 12,125
- Joined: Jan 23, 2016
Re: Game 12: Packers at Eagles - 7:20 PM - NBC
Kinda afraid we might fire Barry after this game just to string a few fluke defensive performances under the interim DC who then gets the job and gets exposed next season.
Re: Game 12: Packers at Eagles - 7:20 PM - NBC
- LikeABosh
- RealGM
- Posts: 18,897
- And1: 8,637
- Joined: Jun 15, 2011
Re: Game 12: Packers at Eagles - 7:20 PM - NBC
PintSizedBox10 wrote:Mags FTW wrote:NOW can we fire Barry? Say all you want about personnel or whatever, but that was 363 rushing yards for ****.
Fire the guy that put the defense together?
This is something that should be said before the season starts if you really believe it. I think we all agreed we had a lot of defensive talent going into the season. Barry was the only thing we were unsure of
Re: Game 12: Packers at Eagles - 7:20 PM - NBC
- Dennis Reynolds
- Lead Assistant
- Posts: 5,643
- And1: 12,125
- Joined: Jan 23, 2016
Re: Game 12: Packers at Eagles - 7:20 PM - NBC
Mags FTW wrote:NOW can we fire Barry? Say all you want about personnel or whatever, but that was 363 rushing yards for ****.
Only 7.4 yards per carry and 40 points allowed, I'd give him another season, seems like he's just starting to figure it out.
Re: Game 12: Packers at Eagles - 7:20 PM - NBC
-
- RealGM
- Posts: 18,599
- And1: 6,643
- Joined: Jun 29, 2005
Re: Game 12: Packers at Eagles - 7:20 PM - NBC
So Love had a great two series, but he missed Lazard for a td.
Quay made a great play, but missed giving our offense a chance by whiffing on two tackles.
Watson had some great plays, but he dropped another ball on our first drive.
Young stars shine, but a long ways to go.
Quay made a great play, but missed giving our offense a chance by whiffing on two tackles.
Watson had some great plays, but he dropped another ball on our first drive.
Young stars shine, but a long ways to go.
Re: Game 12: Packers at Eagles - 7:20 PM - NBC
-
- Head Coach
- Posts: 6,461
- And1: 3,233
- Joined: Mar 31, 2019
Re: Game 12: Packers at Eagles - 7:20 PM - NBC
LikeABosh wrote:PintSizedBox10 wrote:Mags FTW wrote:NOW can we fire Barry? Say all you want about personnel or whatever, but that was 363 rushing yards for ****.
Fire the guy that put the defense together?
This is something that should be said before the season starts if you really believe it. I think we all agreed we had a lot of defensive talent going into the season. Barry was the only thing we were unsure of
They weren't good last year and yet for some reason a lot of Packer nation was pushing the narrative they were going to be elite. I personally never bought into the hype. We've been here before with this team.
Re: Game 12: Packers at Eagles - 7:20 PM - NBC
-
- RealGM
- Posts: 23,879
- And1: 19,684
- Joined: Feb 07, 2010
Re: Game 12: Packers at Eagles - 7:20 PM - NBC
Hope Watson can stay healthy he has legit scare a d speed. You need one of those guys to keep the S honest.
Sent from my SM-G986U using RealGM mobile app
Sent from my SM-G986U using RealGM mobile app
Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming Wow! What a Ride!-H.S.T.
Re: Game 12: Packers at Eagles - 7:20 PM - NBC
-
- RealGM
- Posts: 23,879
- And1: 19,684
- Joined: Feb 07, 2010
Re: Game 12: Packers at Eagles - 7:20 PM - NBC
I don't even care about the numbers or situation I was most encouraged that the ball just looked good coming out and he was decesive with it. First time I really saw that with him.
Sent from my SM-G986U using RealGM mobile app
Sent from my SM-G986U using RealGM mobile app
Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming Wow! What a Ride!-H.S.T.
Re: Game 12: Packers at Eagles - 7:20 PM - NBC
- Ron Swanson
- RealGM
- Posts: 22,666
- And1: 24,006
- Joined: May 15, 2013
Re: Game 12: Packers at Eagles - 7:20 PM - NBC
Shut down Rodgers for the year and fire Barry. It's Love time.
Re: Game 12: Packers at Eagles - 7:20 PM - NBC
- Dennis Reynolds
- Lead Assistant
- Posts: 5,643
- And1: 12,125
- Joined: Jan 23, 2016
Re: Game 12: Packers at Eagles - 7:20 PM - NBC
WeekapaugGroove wrote:Hope Watson can stay healthy he has legit scare a d speed. You need one of those guys to keep the S honest.
Sent from my SM-G986U using RealGM mobile app
A few annoying drops here and there but he's really been balling ever since he came back from the last injury. Wasn't kidding earlier in the season when I said I just want him to show us he isn't just a more athletic MVS and he certainly showed me.
He's been a different player ever since he caught that bomb for a TD against Dallas.
Re: Game 12: Packers at Eagles - 7:20 PM - NBC
-
- Lead Assistant
- Posts: 4,644
- And1: 1,185
- Joined: Jan 26, 2008
Re: Game 12: Packers at Eagles - 7:20 PM - NBC
PintSizedBox10 wrote:LikeABosh wrote:PintSizedBox10 wrote:
Fire the guy that put the defense together?
This is something that should be said before the season starts if you really believe it. I think we all agreed we had a lot of defensive talent going into the season. Barry was the only thing we were unsure of
They weren't good last year and yet for some reason a lot of Packer nation was pushing the narrative they were going to be elite. I personally never bought into the hype. We've been here before with this team.
They were good at times last year—won the game vs Arizona and all those pick-6’s from Rasul—and they played very well against the Niners in the punt-block playoff game. You add a healthy all-pro CB who was injured last year, plus two 1st-round draft picks, and you expect to be a top defense. You only lost Z Smith, but I always felt like he was overrated; he was horrible against the run, always guessing and not able to just hold the edge. Anyway, I don’t think it was a weird expectation.
Re: Game 12: Packers at Eagles - 7:20 PM - NBC
-
- Assistant Coach
- Posts: 4,368
- And1: 1,418
- Joined: Jun 23, 2010
Re: Game 12: Packers at Eagles - 7:20 PM - NBC
Haven't heard Pickens name around here in a while
Re: Game 12: Packers at Eagles - 7:20 PM - NBC
-
- RealGM
- Posts: 34,543
- And1: 7,338
- Joined: Feb 16, 2006
- Location: Flickin' It
Re: Game 12: Packers at Eagles - 7:20 PM - NBC
Rodgers just said he is going to keep playing until they are mathematically eliminated.
Re: Game 12: Packers at Eagles - 7:20 PM - NBC
-
- General Manager
- Posts: 8,152
- And1: 4,200
- Joined: May 06, 2014
Re: Game 12: Packers at Eagles - 7:20 PM - NBC
He can say that but if they let him play over Love right now they need to let Gute goMags FTW wrote:Rodgers just said he is going to keep playing until they are mathematically eliminated.
Sent from my SM-G975U using RealGM mobile app
Re: Game 12: Packers at Eagles - 7:20 PM - NBC
- LikeABosh
- RealGM
- Posts: 18,897
- And1: 8,637
- Joined: Jun 15, 2011
Re: Game 12: Packers at Eagles - 7:20 PM - NBC
PintSizedBox10 wrote:LikeABosh wrote:PintSizedBox10 wrote:
Fire the guy that put the defense together?
This is something that should be said before the season starts if you really believe it. I think we all agreed we had a lot of defensive talent going into the season. Barry was the only thing we were unsure of
They weren't good last year and yet for some reason a lot of Packer nation was pushing the narrative they were going to be elite. I personally never bought into the hype. We've been here before with this team.
Yeah, and it was a fair projection. We were gonna be adding Jaire who missed most of the season, expecting Stokes and Gary to take a bigger leap (Gary did), and we invested in another 3 down ILB so we could run more nickel and not get exploited by the run in 2nd and short situations. I think Gute's process was good. There weren't any glaring holes after the offseason, but clearly there's something missing.
Stuff like Justin Jefferson gaining 140 some yards without a CB covering him is not a GM problem. That's a Barry problem. So far, more signs to point to scheme issues rather than personnel issues. It could be both, but I'm still leaning towards believing a defense with playmakers like Jaire, Gary, Clark, Campbell should be way more competent.
Re: Game 12: Packers at Eagles - 7:20 PM - NBC
- Dennis Reynolds
- Lead Assistant
- Posts: 5,643
- And1: 12,125
- Joined: Jan 23, 2016
Re: Game 12: Packers at Eagles - 7:20 PM - NBC
raysbookclub wrote:PintSizedBox10 wrote:LikeABosh wrote:
This is something that should be said before the season starts if you really believe it. I think we all agreed we had a lot of defensive talent going into the season. Barry was the only thing we were unsure of
They weren't good last year and yet for some reason a lot of Packer nation was pushing the narrative they were going to be elite. I personally never bought into the hype. We've been here before with this team.
They were good at times last year—won the game vs Arizona and all those pick-6’s from Rasul—and they played very well against the Niners in the punt-block playoff game. You add a healthy all-pro CB who was injured last year, plus two 1st-round draft picks, and you expect to be a top defense. You only lost Z Smith, but I always felt like he was overrated; he was horrible against the run, always guessing and not able to just hold the edge. Anyway, I don’t think it was a weird expectation.
Nah, it was a massive overreaction to 1 great game vs the 49ers in terrible weather conditions with all our guys fully healthy and rested playing against an injured, mediocre QB having an awful game. Even then they choked on the last drive allowing the Niners to convert on a game ending 3rd and 7 run.
During the regular season they sucked against a backup QB vs the Ravens, sucked against the Browns despite having 4 picks, had awful games against the Saints, 49ers and Vikings and I could go on and on listing below average performances. Even that Cardinals game you mentioned I think that pick by Rasul was the only stop we got in the 2nd half and it was because AJ Green forgot the play.
Pretty sure they were 22nd in DVOA last season and it was for a good reason
Re: Game 12: Packers at Eagles - 7:20 PM - NBC
-
- RealGM
- Posts: 15,105
- And1: 10,510
- Joined: Jan 14, 2014
- Location: Hong Kong
Re: Game 12: Packers at Eagles - 7:20 PM - NBC
Thank goodness the bucks game was on to keep me entertained.
Between getting ready , commute and stealth watching on my phone at work I had a choice of pack or Bucks, Happy with my choice.
Between getting ready , commute and stealth watching on my phone at work I had a choice of pack or Bucks, Happy with my choice.
#FreeChuckDiesel
Re: Game 12: Packers at Eagles - 7:20 PM - NBC
-
- General Manager
- Posts: 8,152
- And1: 4,200
- Joined: May 06, 2014
Re: Game 12: Packers at Eagles - 7:20 PM - NBC
Love looked great in a limited sample size but honestly the biggest take away for me was that he didn't look wide eyed in the least when they zoomed in. That's the biggest difference I saw
Sent from my SM-G975U using RealGM mobile app
Sent from my SM-G975U using RealGM mobile app
Re: Game 12: Packers at Eagles - 7:20 PM - NBC
- FAH1223
- RealGM
- Posts: 15,883
- And1: 6,977
- Joined: Nov 01, 2005
- Location: Laurel, MD
Re: Game 12: Packers at Eagles - 7:20 PM - NBC
-
- Head Coach
- Posts: 6,497
- And1: 2,383
- Joined: Jul 08, 2014
Re: Game 12: Packers at Eagles - 7:20 PM - NBC
LikeABosh wrote:PintSizedBox10 wrote:Mags FTW wrote:NOW can we fire Barry? Say all you want about personnel or whatever, but that was 363 rushing yards for ****.
Fire the guy that put the defense together?
This is something that should be said before the season starts if you really believe it. I think we all agreed we had a lot of defensive talent going into the season. Barry was the only thing we were unsure of
Obviously we were wrong.
Re: Game 12: Packers at Eagles - 7:20 PM - NBC
-
- Head Coach
- Posts: 6,497
- And1: 2,383
- Joined: Jul 08, 2014
Re: Game 12: Packers at Eagles - 7:20 PM - NBC
Has anyone else noticed that the defense doesn't seem eager to actually tackle people? Is there reliable missed tackle stats? But it's not so much "missed tackle" as it is "not even trying to tackle."