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Re: Luke "Green Kornet" Thread 

Post#101 » by hugepatsfan » Sun Nov 27, 2022 4:09 pm

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hugepatsfan wrote:He’s just so damn… competent lol

He draws a lot of criticism because he’s simply the most logical person to be replaced. If you look at a fully healthy roster (excluding Gallo because out for year):

Smart / Brogdon / Pritchard
Brown / White
Tatum / Hauser / Jackson
Horford / GWilliams
R Williams / Kornet / Blake / Vonleh

The depth chart is legitimately fantastic at PG/SG/SF/PF. You can nitpick, but realistically speaking none of us can really propose too much that improves us there. That doesn’t even include Pritchard who is a phenomenal 3rd unit player.

Then you get to center and you have a great player in Rob, but major injury concerns. So the need for a strong backup at that spot is probably the biggest on our team. And then while Kornet is competent, he’s the only guy on our first or second unit who isn’t really great for their role.

So even though he’s competent, just from a purely logical standpoint the only way to improve this team even further without a major shakeup is to target a backup center to take his spot. It’s not even really a criticism of him individually, the rest of the team is just so stacked that it’s hard to really think of practical ways to improve there.

Imagine if this team had had Gallo on it to this point, let alone Rob. Replace a couple hundred minutes of Griffin/Vonleh with Gallo for an already historic offense is pretty wild.

It’s a tough call, at full health (even without Gallo), I think Kornet is totally fine as the third string guy. But like you said the full-health piece is a tough gamble.

Still think Olynyk is the “push all your chips onto the table” move to bring him in as that backup. More realistic though they will get a more true backup guy closer to Kornet level.

Best option there I can see currently is if Saric gets bought out and returns to form. He fits their play style in several ways and is still competitive on the boards which is a tough combo. Plus if it worked he’s young enough where he and Kornet could be a solid third string center combo for a couple of years after this without giving up much in the interim.


I think Olynyk is playing himself out of our range. That level of shooting plus his favorable contract for next year being non guaranteed is going to make him a hit commodity.
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Re: Luke "Green Kornet" Thread 

Post#102 » by 165bows » Sun Nov 27, 2022 4:32 pm

hugepatsfan wrote:
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hugepatsfan wrote:He’s just so damn… competent lol

He draws a lot of criticism because he’s simply the most logical person to be replaced. If you look at a fully healthy roster (excluding Gallo because out for year):

Smart / Brogdon / Pritchard
Brown / White
Tatum / Hauser / Jackson
Horford / GWilliams
R Williams / Kornet / Blake / Vonleh

The depth chart is legitimately fantastic at PG/SG/SF/PF. You can nitpick, but realistically speaking none of us can really propose too much that improves us there. That doesn’t even include Pritchard who is a phenomenal 3rd unit player.

Then you get to center and you have a great player in Rob, but major injury concerns. So the need for a strong backup at that spot is probably the biggest on our team. And then while Kornet is competent, he’s the only guy on our first or second unit who isn’t really great for their role.

So even though he’s competent, just from a purely logical standpoint the only way to improve this team even further without a major shakeup is to target a backup center to take his spot. It’s not even really a criticism of him individually, the rest of the team is just so stacked that it’s hard to really think of practical ways to improve there.

Imagine if this team had had Gallo on it to this point, let alone Rob. Replace a couple hundred minutes of Griffin/Vonleh with Gallo for an already historic offense is pretty wild.

It’s a tough call, at full health (even without Gallo), I think Kornet is totally fine as the third string guy. But like you said the full-health piece is a tough gamble.

Still think Olynyk is the “push all your chips onto the table” move to bring him in as that backup. More realistic though they will get a more true backup guy closer to Kornet level.

Best option there I can see currently is if Saric gets bought out and returns to form. He fits their play style in several ways and is still competitive on the boards which is a tough combo. Plus if it worked he’s young enough where he and Kornet could be a solid third string center combo for a couple of years after this without giving up much in the interim.


I think Olynyk is playing himself out of our range. That level of shooting plus his favorable contract for next year being non guaranteed is going to make him a hit commodity.

Yeah it’s a tough call. They have a real shot at a title this year which you have to take advantage of -so do they move eg Begarin+ for a quality backup guy?

Finding a cheap/poor man’s version of let’s-call-it Amir Johnson type player is going to be a huge win if the front office can pull it off.

Hopefully Luke can be a part of that guy, so far so good lol!
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Post#103 » by zoyathedestroya » Mon Nov 28, 2022 3:18 am

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Post#104 » by sam_I_am » Mon Nov 28, 2022 11:04 am

I think Luke is exactly what we need from third big when Al and Rob are healthy. If Al or Rob break down in playoffs - a realistic possibility - I am not sure he an adequate #2 like Theis was for much of playoff run. If he is going to be that guy, Joe needs to play him more. The more he has played lately, the better he is getting so I am all for giving him more PT.
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Re: Luke "Green Kornet" Thread 

Post#105 » by 31to6 » Mon Nov 28, 2022 3:45 pm

sam_I_am wrote:I think Luke is exactly what we need from third big when Al and Rob are healthy. If Al or Rob break down in playoffs - a realistic possibility - I am not sure he an adequate #2 like Theis was for much of playoff run. If he is going to be that guy, Joe needs to play him more. The more he has played lately, the better he is getting so I am all for giving him more PT.


was just about to ask how Luke's advance #s this year are comparing to Theis from last year (and/or previous stint with us).
Me -- I'm satisfied with what we're getting from this tall, long-armed human. He seems to be consistently making a positive impact -- which might be the 'fifth Beetle' effect, but he's doing it while others (Vonleh, Blake) aren't.
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Post#106 » by Half-Full » Mon Nov 28, 2022 5:15 pm

31to6 wrote:
sam_I_am wrote:I think Luke is exactly what we need from third big when Al and Rob are healthy. If Al or Rob break down in playoffs - a realistic possibility - I am not sure he an adequate #2 like Theis was for much of playoff run. If he is going to be that guy, Joe needs to play him more. The more he has played lately, the better he is getting so I am all for giving him more PT.


was just about to ask how Luke's advance #s this year are comparing to Theis from last year (and/or previous stint with us).
Me -- I'm satisfied with what we're getting from this tall, long-armed human. He seems to be consistently making a positive impact -- which might be the 'fifth Beetle' effect, but he's doing it while others (Vonleh, Blake) aren't.


Yeah, Luke's play has been better than expected. As this article points out, it has an impact on any possible trades for another big, as he's "making it tough for the Celtics to find an upgrade for Boston’s price range." Any upgrade to what Luke is providing is going to cost substantially more, certainly in salary, and very likely in assets (draft picks and/or players). For the moment, Luke is doing the job.

https://www.masslive.com/celtics/2022/11/luke-kornet-taking-pressure-off-celtics-trade-needs-with-steady-bench-play-brian-robb.html
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Re: Luke "Green Kornet" Thread 

Post#107 » by playa-hater » Mon Nov 28, 2022 5:26 pm

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31to6 wrote:
sam_I_am wrote:I think Luke is exactly what we need from third big when Al and Rob are healthy. If Al or Rob break down in playoffs - a realistic possibility - I am not sure he an adequate #2 like Theis was for much of playoff run. If he is going to be that guy, Joe needs to play him more. The more he has played lately, the better he is getting so I am all for giving him more PT.


was just about to ask how Luke's advance #s this year are comparing to Theis from last year (and/or previous stint with us).
Me -- I'm satisfied with what we're getting from this tall, long-armed human. He seems to be consistently making a positive impact -- which might be the 'fifth Beetle' effect, but he's doing it while others (Vonleh, Blake) aren't.


Yeah, Luke's play has been better than expected. As this article points out, it has an impact on any possible trades for another big, as he's "making it tough for the Celtics to find an upgrade for Boston’s price range." Any upgrade to what Luke is providing is going to cost substantially more, certainly in salary, and very likely in assets (draft picks and/or players). For the moment, Luke is doing the job.

https://www.masslive.com/celtics/2022/11/luke-kornet-taking-pressure-off-celtics-trade-needs-with-steady-bench-play-brian-robb.html


Luke keeps improving with play. And while Luke may never be the Long term answer/starter we may need one day, he may still turn out better than anyone has given him credit for. It does happen once in a while with players who it was assumed had Maxed out their Ceilings only to raise it after some time.
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Post#108 » by playa-hater » Mon Nov 28, 2022 5:29 pm

Just look at Hauser.. After less than 2 month in rotation, he has become a legit 3 and D player.. Maybe more 3 than D but whatever. No one but Hauser's mother and I believed he could do it. 8-)
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Post#109 » by Half-Full » Mon Nov 28, 2022 7:30 pm

playa-hater wrote:Just look at Hauser.. After less than 2 month in rotation, he has become a legit 3 and D player.. Maybe more 3 than D but whatever. No one but Hauser's mother and I believed he could do it. 8-)


I get a lot of pleasure from watching teams go after Hauser on defense, thinking he is a weak link to be exploited. Not so much. His shooting is pretty good too. :)
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Post#110 » by steefP2 » Mon Nov 28, 2022 8:37 pm

31to6 wrote:
sam_I_am wrote:I think Luke is exactly what we need from third big when Al and Rob are healthy. If Al or Rob break down in playoffs - a realistic possibility - I am not sure he an adequate #2 like Theis was for much of playoff run. If he is going to be that guy, Joe needs to play him more. The more he has played lately, the better he is getting so I am all for giving him more PT.


was just about to ask how Luke's advance #s this year are comparing to Theis from last year (and/or previous stint with us).
Me -- I'm satisfied with what we're getting from this tall, long-armed human. He seems to be consistently making a positive impact -- which might be the 'fifth Beetle' effect, but he's doing it while others (Vonleh, Blake) aren't.



His on off stats are great but thats a product of these amazing bench lineups that kill folks. Most of the advanced stats are not quite reliable atm due to sample size. Like the top top guys are fairly locked in but still huge swings for like 15 through 60. Anything below that is just chaos. Kornet only has played 330 ish possessions, that’s roughly 3 to 3.5 games. Just not enough data for the advanced numbers to mean anything.

But he hasn’t killed us, been a part of many successful lineups but mazzula has also not played him when he might struggle, therefore protecting him from getting exposed. It’s gonna be much more eye opening if/when he plays 20-25 min against a good team and against first units.

He’s competent in his role so far is all we can say with certainty though there have been some promising flashes. He needs a lot more reps though. Hasn’t play many games/min in the nba so far.that’s what he lacks the most imo, just the reps needed for play recognition and faster processing. Not sure if it’ll be enough but it’s good to find out.
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Post#111 » by sam_I_am » Tue Nov 29, 2022 3:08 am

The Kornish Hen taking flight? Is that what that was tonight?
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Post#112 » by zoyathedestroya » Tue Nov 29, 2022 3:48 am

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Post#113 » by return2glory » Tue Nov 29, 2022 5:00 am

Kornet showing people all that he can play in this league. Great guy too.
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Post#114 » by sam_I_am » Tue Nov 29, 2022 12:35 pm

Some random Kornet trivia: Frank Kornet and Tito Horford were teammates and possibly roommates when they played for the Bucks. Luke’s sister was in Adam Sandler’s NBA movie ‘Hustle’.
"I think the criticism's stupid," Stevens said. "So I don't care. I'm with Jaylen (Brown) on that. Those two had achieved more than most 25 and 26 year olds ever had. I'd rather be in the mix and have my guts ripped out than suck."
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Post#117 » by timpiker » Wed Nov 30, 2022 3:19 pm

sam_I_am wrote:I think Luke is exactly what we need from third big when Al and Rob are healthy. If Al or Rob break down in playoffs - a realistic possibility - I am not sure he an adequate #2 like Theis was for much of playoff run. If he is going to be that guy, Joe needs to play him more. The more he has played lately, the better he is getting so I am all for giving him more PT.


My thoughts as well. The more PT he gets, the better he gets.
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Post#118 » by zoyathedestroya » Wed Nov 30, 2022 5:28 pm

The Great Kornholio has as many dunks as 13 players on the team combined.
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Post#119 » by playa-hater » Wed Nov 30, 2022 6:18 pm

zoyathedestroya wrote:The Great Kornholio has as many dunks as 13 players on the team combined.


as I posted..

AIR KORNET!!
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Post#120 » by threrf23 » Wed Nov 30, 2022 6:36 pm

Air Kornholio is a good middle ground.

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