2023 NBA Draft Thread

drsd · Post #281 » by **drsd** » Sun Nov 27, 2022 10:07 am

zaymon wrote:Anthony Black looks intriguing. Class keeps getting deeper and deeper. Thx Chicago.

He is my favourite realistic player from the draft. That the Bulls look to be a mid-lottery pick, he is a player to watch.

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RookieStar · Post #282 » by **RookieStar** » Sun Nov 27, 2022 8:17 pm

Well... we get to see BMiller and Dariq Whitehead right now. Both are strong contenders for our CHI pick

KillMonger · Post #283 » by **KillMonger** » Mon Nov 28, 2022 7:29 pm

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ibraheim718 · Post #284 » by **ibraheim718** » Tue Nov 29, 2022 4:22 am

drsd wrote:
zaymon wrote:Anthony Black looks intriguing. Class keeps getting deeper and deeper. Thx Chicago.

He is my favourite realistic player from the draft. That the Bulls look to be a mid-lottery pick, he is a player to watch.

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Nick Smith Jr is getting ready to play soon. Imagine getting both the Razorback guards?

Black would be a great do it all glue guy until he gets older.

drsd · Post #285 » by **drsd** » Tue Nov 29, 2022 7:59 am

ibraheim718 wrote:Nick Smith Jr is getting ready to play soon. Imagine getting both the Razorback guards? Black would be a great do it all glue guy until he gets older.

Let's say the Magic come out with the #6 and the #11 picks, it is reasonable to say that one of the Razorback guards is drafted, and then probably one of the twins.

Something like that would be my expectation.

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fendilim · Post #286 » by **fendilim** » Tue Nov 29, 2022 10:08 pm

Are there good players for Michigan we need to watch? Lol

thelead · Post #287 » by **thelead** » Wed Nov 30, 2022 4:33 am

We're currently slotted at 2 and 8. Man... if we could come out of the lotto with that... Scoot and Keyonte please :lol:

jonbob17 · Post #288 » by **jonbob17** » Wed Nov 30, 2022 2:59 pm

thelead wrote:We're currently slotted at 2 and 8. Man... if we could come out of the lotto with that... Scoot and Keyonte please

If we had 2 and 8. What kind of trade could we engineer with that? Not saying we do, but I'd think just about anybody that was remotely available would could be had for that. Not sure why these teams would but would you move for Booker or SGA.

Suggs, 2, 8, Denver first, few more firsts for Doncic? I mean if they miss the playoffs this year or are first round exit....maybe things get testy

NavalAviator94 · Post #289 » by **NavalAviator94** » Wed Nov 30, 2022 3:26 pm

jonbob17 wrote:
thelead wrote:We're currently slotted at 2 and 8. Man... if we could come out of the lotto with that... Scoot and Keyonte please

If we had 2 and 8. What kind of trade could we engineer with that? Not saying we do, but I'd think just about anybody that was remotely available would could be had for that. Not sure why these teams would but would you move for Booker or SGA.

Suggs, 2, 8, Denver first, few more firsts for Doncic? I mean if they miss the playoffs this year or are first round exit....maybe things get testy

I doubt that would even get Doncic. You would have to add Franz(and I would) to that equation too.

fendilim · Post #290 » by **fendilim** » Wed Nov 30, 2022 4:04 pm

jonbob17 wrote:
thelead wrote:We're currently slotted at 2 and 8. Man... if we could come out of the lotto with that... Scoot and Keyonte please

If we had 2 and 8. What kind of trade could we engineer with that? Not saying we do, but I'd think just about anybody that was remotely available would could be had for that. Not sure why these teams would but would you move for Booker or SGA.

Suggs, 2, 8, Denver first, few more firsts for Doncic? I mean if they miss the playoffs this year or are first round exit....maybe things get testy

Doncic? Really?

Post #291 » by **Knightro** » Wed Nov 30, 2022 4:08 pm

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VFX · Post #292 » by **VFX** » Wed Nov 30, 2022 4:34 pm

jonbob17 wrote:
thelead wrote:We're currently slotted at 2 and 8. Man... if we could come out of the lotto with that... Scoot and Keyonte please

If we had 2 and 8. What kind of trade could we engineer with that? Not saying we do, but I'd think just about anybody that was remotely available would could be had for that. Not sure why these teams would but would you move for Booker or SGA.

Suggs, 2, 8, Denver first, few more firsts for Doncic? I mean if they miss the playoffs this year or are first round exit....maybe things get testy

Doncic is completely off the table. You don’t trade the best player in the league.

orlando_joe · Post #293 » by **orlando_joe** » Wed Nov 30, 2022 5:23 pm

thelead wrote:We're currently slotted at 2 and 8. Man... if we could come out of the lotto with that... Scoot and Keyonte please

that looks outstanding to me right now!

thelead · Post #294 » by **thelead** » Wed Nov 30, 2022 5:23 pm

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He looks special when the shot is falling but so does everyone else. I've seen enough to not even consider him in the top 5. Not enough handle/shake/whatever else you need to gain separation. His shot is also flat. Maybe with the Bulls pick though.

jonbob17 · Post #295 » by **jonbob17** » Wed Nov 30, 2022 8:56 pm

MagicMatic wrote:
jonbob17 wrote:
thelead wrote:We're currently slotted at 2 and 8. Man... if we could come out of the lotto with that... Scoot and Keyonte please

If we had 2 and 8. What kind of trade could we engineer with that? Not saying we do, but I'd think just about anybody that was remotely available would could be had for that. Not sure why these teams would but would you move for Booker or SGA.

Suggs, 2, 8, Denver first, few more firsts for Doncic? I mean if they miss the playoffs this year or are first round exit....maybe things get testy

Doncic is completely off the table. You don’t trade the best player in the league.

I am not sure he is the best player in the league, top 5, yah. You might have to think about it if he makes you. Is it probable, absolutely not. But if that were to happen, we'd be one of the few teams with the ammo to make it happen.

Doncic is in year 5. Dallas has done absolutely nothing to help him win. If they were to miss the playoffs this year, you have to think he's going to start to be frustrated. The are a terribly constructed team. Seriously. who is the 2nd best player on that team, and would they start on any real contender? and on top of it they chose a pretty questionable coach.

I mean I guess we could have more posts about how we could trade for an overrated shooting guard, thats always fun. Aim high, if we play our cards right, we might have two more really valuable assets in the draft this year.

jonbob17 · Post #296 » by **jonbob17** » Wed Nov 30, 2022 8:58 pm

NavalAviator94 wrote:
jonbob17 wrote:
thelead wrote:We're currently slotted at 2 and 8. Man... if we could come out of the lotto with that... Scoot and Keyonte please

If we had 2 and 8. What kind of trade could we engineer with that? Not saying we do, but I'd think just about anybody that was remotely available would could be had for that. Not sure why these teams would but would you move for Booker or SGA.

Suggs, 2, 8, Denver first, few more firsts for Doncic? I mean if they miss the playoffs this year or are first round exit....maybe things get testy

I doubt that would even get Doncic. You would have to add Franz(and I would) to that equation too.

Probably. I originally had him in there. It's a moon shot to be sure...but there have to be cracks forming in that Dallas foundation.

NavalAviator94 · Post #297 » by **NavalAviator94** » Wed Nov 30, 2022 10:03 pm

jonbob17 wrote:
NavalAviator94 wrote:
jonbob17 wrote:

If we had 2 and 8. What kind of trade could we engineer with that? Not saying we do, but I'd think just about anybody that was remotely available would could be had for that. Not sure why these teams would but would you move for Booker or SGA.

Suggs, 2, 8, Denver first, few more firsts for Doncic? I mean if they miss the playoffs this year or are first round exit....maybe things get testy

I doubt that would even get Doncic. You would have to add Franz(and I would) to that equation too.

Probably. I originally had him in there. It's a moon shot to be sure...but there have to be cracks forming in that Dallas foundation.

If he actually wanted out, we should have the assets to make that trade. A generational player like Doncic would command such an incredibly high price.

VFX · Post #298 » by **VFX** » Wed Nov 30, 2022 11:33 pm

jonbob17 wrote:
MagicMatic wrote:
jonbob17 wrote:

If we had 2 and 8. What kind of trade could we engineer with that? Not saying we do, but I'd think just about anybody that was remotely available would could be had for that. Not sure why these teams would but would you move for Booker or SGA.

Suggs, 2, 8, Denver first, few more firsts for Doncic? I mean if they miss the playoffs this year or are first round exit....maybe things get testy

Doncic is completely off the table. You don’t trade the best player in the league.

I am not sure he is the best player in the league, top 5, yah. You might have to think about it if he makes you. Is it probable, absolutely not. But if that were to happen, we'd be one of the few teams with the ammo to make it happen.

Doncic is in year 5. Dallas has done absolutely nothing to help him win. If they were to miss the playoffs this year, you have to think he's going to start to be frustrated. The are a terribly constructed team. Seriously. who is the 2nd best player on that team, and would they start on any real contender? and on top of it they chose a pretty questionable coach.

I mean I guess we could have more posts about how we could trade for an overrated shooting guard, thats always fun. Aim high, if we play our cards right, we might have two more really valuable assets in the draft this year.

Dallas is in a painful situation. I think they are worse off than Orlando due to the fact that Doncic is arguably the best/most valuable player in the league for his age and they have no real way to add talent around him. They are on the clock and cant do anything before he up and leaves. I mean who do they even have to trade? They don't even have a frp this year. None of their assets are really plus value outside of Doncic. Maybe Wood and Hardaway?

That being said, it is unfathomably dumb to trade Doncic away without him requesting a trade. Hes top 5 in the league and might be #1. There isnt really an equal value of return for a generational talent like that and Orlando certainly doest have it.

jonbob17 · Post #299 » by **jonbob17** » Wed Nov 30, 2022 11:57 pm

MagicMatic wrote:
jonbob17 wrote:
MagicMatic wrote:
Doncic is completely off the table. You don’t trade the best player in the league.

I am not sure he is the best player in the league, top 5, yah. You might have to think about it if he makes you. Is it probable, absolutely not. But if that were to happen, we'd be one of the few teams with the ammo to make it happen.

Doncic is in year 5. Dallas has done absolutely nothing to help him win. If they were to miss the playoffs this year, you have to think he's going to start to be frustrated. The are a terribly constructed team. Seriously. who is the 2nd best player on that team, and would they start on any real contender? and on top of it they chose a pretty questionable coach.

I mean I guess we could have more posts about how we could trade for an overrated shooting guard, thats always fun. Aim high, if we play our cards right, we might have two more really valuable assets in the draft this year.

Dallas is in a painful situation. I think they are worse off than Orlando due to the fact that Doncic is arguably the best/most valuable player in the league for his age and they have no real way to add talent around him. They are on the clock and cant do anything before he up and leaves. I mean who do they even have to trade? They don't even have a frp this year. None of their assets are really plus value outside of Doncic. Maybe Wood and Hardaway?

That being said, it is unfathomably dumb to trade Doncic away without him requesting a trade. Hes top 5 in the league and might be #1. There isnt really an equal value of return for a generational talent like that and Orlando certainly doest have it.

Yah, you only trade Doncic if he absolutely demands it, sitting out type of demand, I doubt he ever does, but for a team that just made the conference finals, it's a truly bad team. And they have some salary coming off the books, but at the same time it's kind of the same problem we have, no one good ever makes it to free agency. God forbid Doncic got hurt, but without him they might be the worst team in the league.

But i mean if you were starting from scratch would you choose Doncic and replacement level players or Suggs, Wagner, Scoot Henderson, pick 8 and 4 additional first round picks. I mean it's probably Doncic, but if he wanted out....its a pretty huge haul, so big that I took Wagner out. I value Suggs very highly though

Post #300 » by **Knightro** » Wed Nov 30, 2022 11:58 pm

Some guys non-high lotto guys I've really liked early in the year...

Terrence Shannon Jr, SG, Illinois

Obviously he's a little older, but he has some Desmond Bane to his game. An experienced 3&D wing who has flashed some playmaking as he's aged. 21-49 from three so far this season. He's currently 16th on Tankathon.

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Another older guy I like is Colby Jones, G out of Xavier. He's currently 27th on Tankathon. Shooting was a big issue coming into this year, but he's quietly 9-14 from three and a really nice 25-29 from the line so far. You don't see many 16-6-6 lines in college basketball, but that's what he's averaging so far.

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Kyle Filipowski, C, Duke is another guy I've been impressed with so far. He is currently 17th on Tankathon. He's been the best player on Duke by a pretty wide margin for my money thus far. Not crazy explosive, but a nice modern big man skill set.

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