LeBron James - The countdown pt 2. Road to 40,000

Knightfall · Post #81 » by **Knightfall** » Mon Nov 7, 2022 11:31 am

JN61 wrote:
Beethoven wrote:Im just doing some hypothetical math here..

Let say no major injuries,
Plays approx 65-70 games per season
one example below is
avg points starting w
next season 22-23: 25pts
23-24: 22 pts
24-25: 20 pts
25-26: 17 pts
retires
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he can possibly rack up 44,000 + points by the time he retires.

He can't even average 25 ppg this season... Next season he will drop like stone possibly bellow 20 ppg.

3 games ago his avg was at 27. Cant say what his avg is going to be this season as it's still very early and that number will change daily for about 12 to 15 more games.

However still impressive at 20 years in the league.

Knightfall · Post #82 » by **Knightfall** » Mon Nov 7, 2022 11:34 am

Exp0sed wrote:He should buy the Suns and play till he's 50

Who says no?

Is player\owner allowed?

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With posts like this you're only exposing your lack of knowledge for sport.

Knightfall · Post #83 » by **Knightfall** » Sun Nov 13, 2022 11:31 pm

With 30 points vs Clippers and a rest day against the kings Lebron is now 1076 points away from passing Kareem on the all time list. With a game vs the Nets tonight. 9:30.

Kareem - 38,387
Lebron - 37, 311.

Knightfall · Post #84 » by **Knightfall** » Sun Nov 27, 2022 1:10 am

After missing a few games Lebron is 1055 points away from Kareems record. Scored 21 points in the first of a back to back night vs the Spurs.

Next game tonight (now) Vs the Spurs.

Knightfall · Post #85 » by **Knightfall** » Sun Nov 27, 2022 4:27 am

And after tonight's game against the spurs with a 31 point performance against the Spurs tonight, Lebrom is now only 1,016 points away from the all time record.

Next game Mon Nov 28th 10:30pm est.

Kareem 38,387
Lebron 37,371

Knightfall · Post #86 » by **Knightfall** » Sun Nov 27, 2022 6:46 pm

Just saw this little tid bit also. Lebron is only 20 assists away from passing Magic Johnson for 6th all time in assists and has a realistic shot at passing both Mark Jackson and Steve Nash this season.

Magic Johnson - 10,141
Lebron James - 10,122

Knightfall · Post #87 » by **Knightfall** » Tue Nov 29, 2022 8:47 am

With 21 points tonight vs the Pacers Lebron now breaks into tripple digits and is 995 pointsbaway from passing Kareem for the all time record. His 3 assists tonight also put him 17 behind Magic for 6th all time in the assist colum.

Kareem - 38,387
LeBron - 37,392

Magic - 10,141
LeBron - 10,125

Next game Weds Nov 30th vs Portland 10:30 est

John Murdoch · Post #88 » by **John Murdoch** » Tue Nov 29, 2022 8:54 am

Dude F ur countdown...we dont care and even if he passes Kareem in this jersey he will never be respected as the real Laker mount rushmore. He has pouted this entire season and its obvious why Pelinka hasnt budged, dude just isnt worth it anymore.

TheNG · Post #89 » by **TheNG** » Tue Nov 29, 2022 9:40 am

LeBron's total points number has nothing to do with Kareem's total point number. Apples and oranges. LeBron entered the league 3 years earlier.
This is like celebrating someone breaking the 3pt percentage record after making the 3pt line closer to the basket.

Knightfall · Post #90 » by **Knightfall** » Thu Dec 1, 2022 2:54 pm

Lebron takes chunks out of the record books with a 31 point, 8 assist game against the trailblazers. Moving him closer to the top spot in scoring and closer to passing Magic on the assists list. 964 more points until he is the new scoring champion.

Kareem - 38,387
Lebron - 37,423

Magic - 10,144
Lebron - 10,133

Next game Fri. Dec 2nd 7:30 pm est vs Bucks.

Ambrose · Post #91 » by **Ambrose** » Thu Dec 1, 2022 3:46 pm

TheNG wrote:LeBron's total points number has nothing to do with Kareem's total point number. Apples and oranges. LeBron entered the league 3 years earlier.
This is like celebrating someone breaking the 3pt percentage record after making the 3pt line closer to the basket.

LeBron averages more ppg than Kareem for his career...so those "three extra seasons" don't matter. He's going to do it in less games than Kareem.

TheNG · Post #92 » by **TheNG** » Thu Dec 1, 2022 4:11 pm

Ambrose wrote:
TheNG wrote:LeBron's total points number has nothing to do with Kareem's total point number. Apples and oranges. LeBron entered the league 3 years earlier.
This is like celebrating someone breaking the 3pt percentage record after making the 3pt line closer to the basket.

LeBron averages more ppg than Kareem for his career...so those "three extra seasons" don't matter. He's going to do it in less games than Kareem.

The record is not about "the number of games". The only way to compare apples to apples is compare the number of points LeBron will score excluding his first 3 seasons. It wouldn't be ideal I know, but the alternative comparisons just miss a key factor, which is age.

Ambrose · Post #93 » by **Ambrose** » Thu Dec 1, 2022 4:25 pm

TheNG wrote:
Ambrose wrote:
TheNG wrote:LeBron's total points number has nothing to do with Kareem's total point number. Apples and oranges. LeBron entered the league 3 years earlier.
This is like celebrating someone breaking the 3pt percentage record after making the 3pt line closer to the basket.

LeBron averages more ppg than Kareem for his career...so those "three extra seasons" don't matter. He's going to do it in less games than Kareem.

The record is not about "the number of games". The only way to compare apples to apples is compare the number of points LeBron will score excluding his first 3 seasons. It wouldn't be ideal I know, but the alternative comparisons just miss a key factor, which is age.

What are you talking about? Kareem retired at 42. LeBron is 37 and turning 38 this month. They have played the same amount of seasons. Kareem started later but set the record later too. Why would we randomly exclude LeBron's first three seasons? Same amount of seasons, less games, higher scoring average, younger, etc. There is nothing apples and oranges about this.

lambchop · Post #94 » by **lambchop** » Thu Dec 1, 2022 4:37 pm

TheNG wrote:
Ambrose wrote:
TheNG wrote:LeBron's total points number has nothing to do with Kareem's total point number. Apples and oranges. LeBron entered the league 3 years earlier.
This is like celebrating someone breaking the 3pt percentage record after making the 3pt line closer to the basket.

LeBron averages more ppg than Kareem for his career...so those "three extra seasons" don't matter. He's going to do it in less games than Kareem.

The record is not about "the number of games". The only way to compare apples to apples is compare the number of points LeBron will score excluding his first 3 seasons. It wouldn't be ideal I know, but the alternative comparisons just miss a key factor, which is age.

Age has never been a criteria when comparing career achievements. Sabonis is probably the only case cause he came to the league after his prime.
Props to Kareem for being so NBA ready after college. I can't imagine a rookie being that dominant after spending so much time in college nowadays.

To me the real advantage bron has is simply that now players understand how to train in order to stay in great playing shape for much longer. I mean even average Joes that don't get paid know how to train twice a day in their 30s and even 40s just because there is more information about weight training, nutrition etc.

TheNG · Post #95 » by **TheNG** » Thu Dec 1, 2022 5:27 pm

Ambrose wrote:
TheNG wrote:
Ambrose wrote:
LeBron averages more ppg than Kareem for his career...so those "three extra seasons" don't matter. He's going to do it in less games than Kareem.

The record is not about "the number of games". The only way to compare apples to apples is compare the number of points LeBron will score excluding his first 3 seasons. It wouldn't be ideal I know, but the alternative comparisons just miss a key factor, which is age.

What are you talking about? Kareem retired at 42. LeBron is 37 and turning 38 this month. They have played the same amount of seasons. Kareem started later but set the record later too. Why would we randomly exclude LeBron's first three seasons? Same amount of seasons, less games, higher scoring average, younger, etc. There is nothing apples and oranges about this.

Kareem could not have gone earlier to the NBA as the NBA draft rules required 4 years of college.
This record was something that required X, and Lebron is going to do something that reqires Y.
There is nothing random about my suggestion, it is just the best comparison criteria.
The fact that you suggest the "amount of seasons" as a criteria means you didn't understand my point at all.

Ambrose · Post #96 » by **Ambrose** » Thu Dec 1, 2022 5:44 pm

TheNG wrote:
Ambrose wrote:
TheNG wrote:
The record is not about "the number of games". The only way to compare apples to apples is compare the number of points LeBron will score excluding his first 3 seasons. It wouldn't be ideal I know, but the alternative comparisons just miss a key factor, which is age.

What are you talking about? Kareem retired at 42. LeBron is 37 and turning 38 this month. They have played the same amount of seasons. Kareem started later but set the record later too. Why would we randomly exclude LeBron's first three seasons? Same amount of seasons, less games, higher scoring average, younger, etc. There is nothing apples and oranges about this.

Kareem could not have gone earlier to the NBA as the NBA draft rules required 4 years of college.
This record was something that required X, and Lebron is going to do something that reqires Y.
There is nothing random about my suggestion, it is just the best comparison criteria.
The fact that you suggest the "amount of seasons" as a criteria means you didn't understand my point at all.

It's because you don't have a point. It's not random, it's stupid. If you want to make the case that what Kareem did was more impressive because he couldn't leave school...go ahead, there's a great case for it. But saying that they shouldn't count LeBron's first three seasons because rules weren't the same is a truly braindead take.

TheNG · Post #97 » by **TheNG** » Thu Dec 1, 2022 5:55 pm

Ambrose wrote:
TheNG wrote:
Ambrose wrote:
What are you talking about? Kareem retired at 42. LeBron is 37 and turning 38 this month. They have played the same amount of seasons. Kareem started later but set the record later too. Why would we randomly exclude LeBron's first three seasons? Same amount of seasons, less games, higher scoring average, younger, etc. There is nothing apples and oranges about this.

Kareem could not have gone earlier to the NBA as the NBA draft rules required 4 years of college.
This record was something that required X, and Lebron is going to do something that reqires Y.
There is nothing random about my suggestion, it is just the best comparison criteria.
The fact that you suggest the "amount of seasons" as a criteria means you didn't understand my point at all.

It's because you don't have a point. It's not random, it's stupid. If you want to make the case that what Kareem did was more impressive because he couldn't leave school...go ahead, there's a great case for it. But saying that they shouldn't count LeBron's first three seasons because rules weren't the same is a truly braindead take.

I won't go into your level of calling what you say "stupid", the way you just did to what I said.
I never said "they shouldn't count".
All I said is what Kareem did is not comparable to what LeBron does now. It is just apples and oranges.
I suggested a better way to compare something relevant in my opinion. You don't agree with it, and it's fine.

Knightfall · Post #98 » by **Knightfall** » Sat Dec 3, 2022 7:41 pm

With 11 assists LeBron passes Magic on the all time assists list for the 6th spot. And with 28 points cuts down the amount needed for 1st all time to 936.

Kareem - 38,387
LeBron - 37,451

LeBron - 10,144
Magic - 10,141

Next game Dec 4th @ Washington 6pm et.

Knightfall · Post #99 » by **Knightfall** » Tue Dec 6, 2022 6:31 am

With 29 points and 6 assists, Lebron moves closer to the record now being 907 points away from Kareem.

Kareem - 38,387
LeBron - 37,480

Next game- Tues Dec 6th @ Cavaliers, 7:30 pm est.

JN61 · Post #100 » by **JN61** » Tue Dec 6, 2022 11:13 am

Ambrose wrote:
TheNG wrote:LeBron's total points number has nothing to do with Kareem's total point number. Apples and oranges. LeBron entered the league 3 years earlier.
This is like celebrating someone breaking the 3pt percentage record after making the 3pt line closer to the basket.

LeBron averages more ppg than Kareem for his career...so those "three extra seasons" don't matter. He's going to do it in less games than Kareem.

Kareem was always more of a team player. Reason why he won more.