would you extend Alec Burks?

[vege]

There is so much miss information in this thread, I guess too many years being arguably the worst team in the league resulted in a lot of posters not even bothering anymore (or the players).

Alec Burks have 2 years left on his contract. Period.

$10,012,800
$10,489,600

The 2nd year is a team option. Which means, the team can decide to not continue that contract, in that case he would be an expiring. We don't have the information on when that option need to be decided, but I imagine it's somewhere around the end of this season.

You do not extend players with 2 years left on their deal, unless he is a rookie, then sometimes the team will negotiate an extension 1 year earlier. But this is not the case.

[Manocad]

Like others have already said...
Pick up his option if nothing decent was offered at the trade deadline? Sure. Extend him? No.
Burks clearly adds some punch to the bench but he can be a sporadic player and has an injury history. If nothing comes up at the trade deadline there's no reason not to pick up his option. But considering where his market value likely is right now, if a contender comes calling offering a decent return in a pick/young prospect, I'd take it for sure.

[bstein14]

There is so much miss information in this thread, I guess too many years being arguably the worst team in the league resulted in a lot of posters not even bothering anymore (or the players).

Alec Burks have 2 years left on his contract. Period.

$10,012,800
$10,489,600

The 2nd year is a team option. Which means, the team can decide to not continue that contract, in that case he would be an expiring. We don't have the information on when that option need to be decided, but I imagine it's somewhere around the end of this season.

You do not extend players with 2 years left on their deal, unless he is a rookie, then sometimes the team will negotiate an extension 1 year earlier. But this is not the case.

Burk's contract is almost certainly going to be picked up for his final year based on his rate of play. This means he is eligible to sign a contract extension starting two years after he signed his deal, which is August 17th 2023. At that point, if still a Piston, we'll be able to sign him to an extension if we want.

[vege]

This means he is eligible to sign a contract extension starting two years after he signed his deal, which is August 17th 2023. At that point, if still a Piston, we'll be able to sign him to an extension if we want.

Yes but why would we extend him?

[bstein14]

This means he is eligible to sign a contract extension starting two years after he signed his deal, which is August 17th 2023. At that point, if still a Piston, we'll be able to sign him to an extension if we want.

Yes but why would we extend him?

For similar reasons as to why we extended Bojan. If we feel like we either want him here as a piece for a few more seasons.... or we feel like he'll have more trade value if he's locked into a few more years at a reasonable rate. If he has a career year with us this season and he is willing to extend for 2 years $22 million or something around that rate it doesn't seem bad for us at all especially if that last year is only guaranteed for $2 or $3 million. That would put him at age 33 and 34.

He's averaging career highs in PPG and 3 point percentage this year. This is his 12th season currently but he doesn't have as many miles on him as a typical player in his early 30s because he has mostly been a bench player for his career.

That said, we have a long time before even needing to think about an extension (August) and that's only if he's still on the roster..... But if we do end up not trading him and we pick up his option for next year, it might make sense to give him a small/short extension if Weaver sees him being a key bench piece for us.

Part of whether or not Weaver wants Burks could also depend on what ends up happening with Livers and Diallo.... if both stay beyond this year Weaver might not have an interest/need to bring back Burks.

[vege]

This means he is eligible to sign a contract extension starting two years after he signed his deal, which is August 17th 2023. At that point, if still a Piston, we'll be able to sign him to an extension if we want.

Yes but why would we extend him?

For similar reasons as to why we extended Bojan. If we feel like we either want him here as a piece for a few more seasons.... or we feel like he'll have more trade value if he's locked into a few more years at a reasonable rate. If he has a career year with us this season and he is willing to extend for 2 years $22 million or something around that rate it doesn't seem bad for us at all especially if that last year is only guaranteed for $2 or $3 million. That would put him at age 33 and 34.

He's averaging career highs in PPG and 3 point percentage this year. This is his 12th season currently but he doesn't have as many miles on him as a typical player in his early 30s because he has mostly been a bench player for his career.

That said, we have a long time before even needing to think about an extension (August) and that's only if he's still on the roster..... But if we do end up not trading him and we pick up his option for next year, it might make sense to give him a small/short extension if Weaver sees him being a key bench piece for us.

Part of whether or not Weaver wants Burks could also depend on what ends up happening with Livers and Diallo.... if both stay beyond this year Weaver might not have an interest/need to bring back Burks.

Bojan was an expiring. It's a totally different situation. Players like Burks, you extend when he is in the last year of his deal.

[bstein14]

Yes but why would we extend him?

For similar reasons as to why we extended Bojan. If we feel like we either want him here as a piece for a few more seasons.... or we feel like he'll have more trade value if he's locked into a few more years at a reasonable rate. If he has a career year with us this season and he is willing to extend for 2 years $22 million or something around that rate it doesn't seem bad for us at all especially if that last year is only guaranteed for $2 or $3 million. That would put him at age 33 and 34.

He's averaging career highs in PPG and 3 point percentage this year. This is his 12th season currently but he doesn't have as many miles on him as a typical player in his early 30s because he has mostly been a bench player for his career.

That said, we have a long time before even needing to think about an extension (August) and that's only if he's still on the roster..... But if we do end up not trading him and we pick up his option for next year, it might make sense to give him a small/short extension if Weaver sees him being a key bench piece for us.

Part of whether or not Weaver wants Burks could also depend on what ends up happening with Livers and Diallo.... if both stay beyond this year Weaver might not have an interest/need to bring back Burks.

Bojan was an expiring. It's a totally different situation. Players like Burks, you extend when he is in the last year of his deal.

Which is August. We can't extend any of our players right now. I'd assume the question is whether or not to extend him in August, September or October. Players can't be extended at this moment in time... he'll be in the last year of his deal after this season once his option it picked up.

[NYPiston]

I like Burks but I wouldn't extend him. With Bojan likely on the team for at least another year, the Pistons don't need another scorer who is a ball movement stopper. I like both guys for what they are but I think 2 of them on the same team is too much, plus the Pistons are going to need to create roster space for the draft pick plus a more prominent free agent/traded for guy if they intend on contending for a playoff spot next season and beyond.

I think Burks is trade bait, signed cheaply for another year with club option for the year after. I think that might hold some value at the deadline if he continues to play well.
Actually, the club option is next season. Even better for trade value.

[NYPiston]

nevermind

[Rip32]

There is so much miss information in this thread, I guess too many years being arguably the worst team in the league resulted in a lot of posters not even bothering anymore (or the players).

Alec Burks have 2 years left on his contract. Period.

$10,012,800
$10,489,600

The 2nd year is a team option. Which means, the team can decide to not continue that contract, in that case he would be an expiring. We don't have the information on when that option need to be decided, but I imagine it's somewhere around the end of this season.

You do not extend players with 2 years left on their deal, unless he is a rookie, then sometimes the team will negotiate an extension 1 year earlier. But this is not the case.

No! I'm including him for a trade for Miles Bridges

[Manocad]

There is so much miss information in this thread, I guess too many years being arguably the worst team in the league resulted in a lot of posters not even bothering anymore (or the players).

Alec Burks have 2 years left on his contract. Period.

$10,012,800
$10,489,600

The 2nd year is a team option. Which means, the team can decide to not continue that contract, in that case he would be an expiring. We don't have the information on when that option need to be decided, but I imagine it's somewhere around the end of this season.

You do not extend players with 2 years left on their deal, unless he is a rookie, then sometimes the team will negotiate an extension 1 year earlier. But this is not the case.

No! I'm including him for a trade for Miles Bridges

Thank god you don't run this team

[Invictus88]

For similar reasons as to why we extended Bojan. If we feel like we either want him here as a piece for a few more seasons.... or we feel like he'll have more trade value if he's locked into a few more years at a reasonable rate. If he has a career year with us this season and he is willing to extend for 2 years $22 million or something around that rate it doesn't seem bad for us at all especially if that last year is only guaranteed for $2 or $3 million. That would put him at age 33 and 34.

He's averaging career highs in PPG and 3 point percentage this year. This is his 12th season currently but he doesn't have as many miles on him as a typical player in his early 30s because he has mostly been a bench player for his career.

That said, we have a long time before even needing to think about an extension (August) and that's only if he's still on the roster..... But if we do end up not trading him and we pick up his option for next year, it might make sense to give him a small/short extension if Weaver sees him being a key bench piece for us.

Part of whether or not Weaver wants Burks could also depend on what ends up happening with Livers and Diallo.... if both stay beyond this year Weaver might not have an interest/need to bring back Burks.

Bojan was an expiring. It's a totally different situation. Players like Burks, you extend when he is in the last year of his deal.

Which is August. We can't extend any of our players right now. I'd assume the question is whether or not to extend him in August, September or October. Players can't be extended at this moment in time... he'll be in the last year of his deal after this season once his option it picked up.

I get confused a lot by the recent topics here. Very few make any sense to me why they are even points of discussion.

1. He's 31.5 years old / theoretically on the downslope of his career.
2. He's playing his best ball right now in a short sample; frankly getting more minutes than he normally should/would and playing out of position at times because of injuries.
3. He has a team option next year
4. He isn't know as a great defender as far as I can tell? (feel free to dispute me on this) So he's not a plug and play 3 & D guy.
5. He is nowhere near the age of the rest of the folks considered part of the core we are building.

Read those points. Now what is the most sensible thing to do coming up to the trade deadline / all-star break? I would think it's fairly obvious and it's basically the opposite of signing an extension.

[breezypeezy]

Is there like a secret rule that we have to purge any and all Pistons that can actually get a bucket?

As i mentioned in one of Bojan/Burkes threads earlier, not big on getting rid of any of the very small group of guys that can excell on the perimeter. Wanna wheel deal, package up some of the real garbage that can neither shoot nor defend, Bojan at 42% from 3, Burkes 38%.
And we move on from those sweet strokes for what a prayer?

Look elsewhere, jettisoning either of them is a solution in search of a problem.

[eitanr]

He should get an extension. He helps aid the youth development and is a jack of all trades in case of injuries. Burks is happy to start, play on or off the ball, play off the bench, can defend, and helps more in crunch time. He can also play some point.

Like Bogie, he could be a nice added vet to help youth come along.

[Manocad]

Is there like a secret rule that we have to purge any and all Pistons that can actually get a bucket?

As i mentioned in one of Bojan/Burkes threads earlier, not big on getting rid of any of the very small group of guys that can excell on the perimeter. Wanna wheel deal, package up some of the real garbage that can neither shoot nor defend, Bojan at 42% from 3, Burkes 38%.
And we move on from those sweet strokes for what a prayer?

Look elsewhere, jettisoning either of them is a solution in search of a problem.

Yes. Some people are already talking about moving Cade and/or Ivey to make room for Scoot. Drafting college juniors/seniors is dumb because they're "old."

[eitanr]

Is there like a secret rule that we have to purge any and all Pistons that can actually get a bucket?

As i mentioned in one of Bojan/Burkes threads earlier, not big on getting rid of any of the very small group of guys that can excell on the perimeter. Wanna wheel deal, package up some of the real garbage that can neither shoot nor defend, Bojan at 42% from 3, Burkes 38%.
And we move on from those sweet strokes for what a prayer?

Look elsewhere, jettisoning either of them is a solution in search of a problem.

Yes. Some people are already talking about moving Cade and/or Ivey to make room for Scoot. Drafting college juniors/seniors is dumb because they're "old."

Not gonna front, but was thinking this. If the Pistons can get another spacer on the cheap for the remainder of the year and run more units with 2 of Cade/Hayes/Ivey as starters with the other being 6man, they should be able to assess where they are at going into draft night. I would suspect unless they land a spacing big, one of those playmakers needs to move.

[whitehops]

burks is in that weird range where he's got some talent but not enough to be a starter or a trade asset but still useful as a player off the bench. personally i'd pick up his option for next season but wouldn't extend him beyond that. he could also be used in a trade package as his standalone value isn't great (i can't see a team giving up even a late first for him).

basically he has more value to the team as a player than as an asset, if that makes sense. but he's also a replacement-level player which is why he and players on his level change teams almost every year.

[Sort]

I would be shocked if Pistons could trade Burks for much of anything. Yes, he can shoot well, and he's a solid bench player, but he's like a stream of middle-of-the-road players in the NBA: talented sure, but not moving the winning more games needle much. Pistons would be foolish to hang onto him if a real trade came along in their favor, and it's fine if they want to extend him next year just to have a savvy, scoring vet on the bench.

Truth is that I doubt it makes too much difference either way.

[breezypeezy]

All of the above commentary true about Burkes being a good shooter while being only middle of the road talent.

However on our sad roster, middle of the road talent is a significant upgrade to the majority of players we trot out there nightly.