Why hasn't Weltham added necessary shooting

[pepe1991]

We have too many players that are ball handlers and not enough catch and shoot guys for them to kick it out to. WeltHam absolutely need to address this in the offseason. We might have to pick what young guards to keep and move on from. I’ve always questioned how Fultz, Suggs and Anthony can work together and that’s even more so now that we have two forwards that play with the ball in their hands too.

Scoot is yet another balldominant player who will probably be mediocre to negative shooter early on.
Brandon Miller doesn't strike me as plus shooter.
Dariq Whitehead also doesn't seem to be good shooter

On early mock drafts, Nick Smith is closest thing to "good fit" , leaving aside Wembanyama.

[DSN1423]

I dont think Scoot should be off the board due to lack of shooting. He is going to be a problem in the league in the future.

We have enough pieces to trade for capable CNS shooters such as Robinson, Bertans, Shamet, Harris, Beasly, Clarkson, Krispert etc..

Albeit we would take on some bad contracts, but they should come with some attached draft picks for us if we do.

[D12VCMagic]

We have too many players that are ball handlers and not enough catch and shoot guys for them to kick it out to. WeltHam absolutely need to address this in the offseason. We might have to pick what young guards to keep and move on from. I’ve always questioned how Fultz, Suggs and Anthony can work together and that’s even more so now that we have two forwards that play with the ball in their hands too.

Scoot is yet another balldominant player who will probably be mediocre to negative shooter early on.
Brandon Miller doesn't strike me as plus shooter.
Dariq Whitehead also doesn't seem to be good shooter

On early mock drafts, Nick Smith is closest thing to "good fit" , leaving aside Wembanyama.

Someone tell WeltHam you can improve the roster by using methods besides the draft.

[Skybox]

I'd still try for Buddy Hield or Gary Trent (definitely different prices). I'm still intrigued by Cam Reddish...not exactly a knock-down 3pt hero, but has shown good shooting potential and defense when engaged and he's definitely long for a wing. I just keep thinking that our frontcourt versatility and ball movement might bring out a great shooter from a formerly "promising" shooter with all of the good shots that should be available. Although, I can't explain RJ and Chuma and Houstan not racking up open 3's at high volume.

Anyone know when we might see Gary Harris? He's definitely a factor in this conversation...and already here. I want to see him play with Paolo's gravity and vision.

[Skybox]

I knew Huerter could be had when ATL got Bogie and drafted AJ Griffin (and since added DeJounte). He would have been a beautiful fit...AJ Griffin can't get off the bench, can we steal him before ATL unleashes him? I always thought AJ was ranked too high in mock drafts, but he was way better than 16, IMO. He was not a "turn your team around" Top 5 guy, but he looks like a phenomenal role-playing 3&D guy. I'd give up a first for him, assuming it's not his knee that gets him DNPs.

[ogmagicfan]

The answer for why is very simple, and also why we won't make any moves to resolve it this season.

They purposefully want the team to be a poor 3 pt shooting team so the team can tank for another top draft pick.

This isn't rocket science, and why these hypotheticals on trading for someone midseason won't happen. We will make plenty of moves this offseason to improve shooting, once we secure a top pick.

[Mc-o]

The answer for why is very simple, and also why we won't make any moves to resolve it this season.

They purposefully want the team to be a poor 3 pt shooting team so the team can tank for another top draft pick.

This isn't rocket science, and why these hypotheticals on trading for someone midseason won't happen. We will make plenty of moves this offseason to improve shooting, once we secure a top pick.

If that’s the case it is a terrible plan . Eventually players will check out if the losing keeps coming .

[tooler]

The answer for why is very simple, and also why we won't make any moves to resolve it this season.

They purposefully want the team to be a poor 3 pt shooting team so the team can tank for another top draft pick.

This isn't rocket science, and why these hypotheticals on trading for someone midseason won't happen. We will make plenty of moves this offseason to improve shooting, once we secure a top pick.

I look forward to seeing if your theory is correct. I just hope we can all agree that there's no more denying it after this season. If they don't add shooting, then they're unable to understand how a modern NBA team is constructed, and should be fired.

No axe to grind, no emotion behind it. I've never disliked them. Just simple objective cause and effect.

[Skybox]

The answer for why is very simple, and also why we won't make any moves to resolve it this season.

They purposefully want the team to be a poor 3 pt shooting team so the team can tank for another top draft pick.

This isn't rocket science, and why these hypotheticals on trading for someone midseason won't happen. We will make plenty of moves this offseason to improve shooting, once we secure a top pick.

You're right...this isn't rocket science

[pepe1991]

The answer for why is very simple, and also why we won't make any moves to resolve it this season.

They purposefully want the team to be a poor 3 pt shooting team so the team can tank for another top draft pick.

This isn't rocket science, and why these hypotheticals on trading for someone midseason won't happen. We will make plenty of moves this offseason to improve shooting, once we secure a top pick.

Would hold merrit if 2017-2021 didn't happen. They never adressed shooting even in years when team didn't tank.
Look at their trackrecord history:

Jonathan Simmons ( career 31,7% for 3 )
Fultz- sub 28% for 3
Aminu -32% for 3 for career on conservative amount of attemps per game

Won't even count all the trash they brought like Grant, Briscoe, Iwundu and others. But all had one thing in common. Couldn't shoot.

[jonbob17]

I knew Huerter could be had when ATL got Bogie and drafted AJ Griffin (and since added DeJounte). He would have been a beautiful fit...AJ Griffin can't get off the bench, can we steal him before ATL unleashes him? I always thought AJ was ranked too high in mock drafts, but he was way better than 16, IMO. He was not a "turn your team around" Top 5 guy, but he looks like a phenomenal role-playing 3&D guy. I'd give up a first for him, assuming it's not his knee that gets him DNPs.

I am all for adding AJ Griffin. I'd move that Chicago pick for him without hesitation. That dude is a shooter and exactly the kind of guy we need. 6'6" Projects as a good defender.

Maybe we could get involved in a 3 way trade in a win-now kind of move for Atlanta, where we send picks and or young guys to third team with a vet going back to Atlanta

point guard
Two wings , Franz and Griffin
Paolo
wCJ

This is the most interesting trade target I have seen on this board. Not exactly the elite scorer many drool over, but an exceptional shooter that is tall.

Looking back on it, the FO really should have been trying to move back into the 1st round to catch a falling Griffin. I had him like 6th last year, which probably looks pretty stupid right now ahead of Mathurin, but man 16th was an absolute theft by the Hawks. Griffin and Trey Murphy are going to be right there with Desmond Bane as the best young shooters in the league. I'd bet Griffin is a career 45% from 3. Assuming he stays healthy

[Bakomagic]

We have too many players that are ball handlers and not enough catch and shoot guys for them to kick it out to. WeltHam absolutely need to address this in the offseason. We might have to pick what young guards to keep and move on from. I’ve always questioned how Fultz, Suggs and Anthony can work together and that’s even more so now that we have two forwards that play with the ball in their hands too.

Scoot is yet another balldominant player who will probably be mediocre to negative shooter early on.
Brandon Miller doesn't strike me as plus shooter.
Dariq Whitehead also doesn't seem to be good shooter

On early mock drafts, Nick Smith is closest thing to "good fit" , leaving aside Wembanyama.

If you have a chance to draft Scoot you have to take him. He looks like a Derrick Rose/ Ja Morant type player, both of them also had shooting questions but their other gifts allowed them (or will allow in Ja case) to play at MVP levels.

That would give us a young core of P5, Franz and Scoot. Plus we’d have another 1st, Suggs, WCjr?) and Potentially 60 million in caps apace to add a veteran borderline all star SG to add to the team. We would then find the next team to blow it up and put a SG on the market ala Jazz and D Mitchell. One of Lavine, Beal, Jaylen Brown. Then sign Myles turner and you have a 2023 starting 5 of…

Scoot
Beal
Franz
Paolo
Myles Turner

[ogmagicfan]

The answer for why is very simple, and also why we won't make any moves to resolve it this season.

They purposefully want the team to be a poor 3 pt shooting team so the team can tank for another top draft pick.

This isn't rocket science, and why these hypotheticals on trading for someone midseason won't happen. We will make plenty of moves this offseason to improve shooting, once we secure a top pick.

I look forward to seeing if your theory is correct. I just hope we can all agree that there's no more denying it after this season. If they don't add shooting, then they're unable to understand how a modern NBA team is constructed, and should be fired.

No axe to grind, no emotion behind it. I've never disliked them. Just simple objective cause and effect.

Absolutely. The Magic have big cap space this offseason and my hope is they sign some shooters and trade for a guard that can be a 2nd option next to Paolo.

[tooler]

Bringing this topic back up.

I've seen an alarming trend around the league recently: people have noticed and are impressed with what Orlando is trying to do by building a team of 6'10" guys. Why is that a problem? Because I think it lets Weltham off the hook for acquiring legitimate guards and shooting. We're basically Jumbol or bust at this point.

And that means we're stuck. Like, where are you going to find a 6'10" point guard...?

Wait. Oh no.

[MagicManMike]

Bringing this topic back up.

I've seen an alarming trend around the league recently: people have noticed and are impressed with what Orlando is trying to do by building a team of 6'10" guys. Why is that a problem? Because I think it lets Weltham off the hook for acquiring legitimate guards and shooting. We're basically Jumbol or bust at this point.

And that means we're stuck. Like, where are you going to find a 6'10" point guard...?

Wait. Oh no.

Feed Bol the the ball just for three’s he is our best three point shooter by a mile!

[NavalAviator94]

Bringing this topic back up.

I've seen an alarming trend around the league recently: people have noticed and are impressed with what Orlando is trying to do by building a team of 6'10" guys. Why is that a problem? Because I think it lets Weltham off the hook for acquiring legitimate guards and shooting. We're basically Jumbol or bust at this point.

And that means we're stuck. Like, where are you going to find a 6'10" point guard...?

Wait. Oh no.

Feed Bol the the ball just for three’s he is our best three point shooter by a mile!

We know Bol

[MagicManMike]

Bringing this topic back up.

I've seen an alarming trend around the league recently: people have noticed and are impressed with what Orlando is trying to do by building a team of 6'10" guys. Why is that a problem? Because I think it lets Weltham off the hook for acquiring legitimate guards and shooting. We're basically Jumbol or bust at this point.

And that means we're stuck. Like, where are you going to find a 6'10" point guard...?

Wait. Oh no.

Feed Bol the the ball just for three’s he is our best three point shooter by a mile!

We know Bol

just making sure you are paying attention