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Re: GT: Nets Vs Magic 7:30 11/28 

Post#61 » by Gooner » Tue Nov 29, 2022 10:12 am

Vaughn is doing a good job, there is more discipline on offense evidently and defensively it's more solid but still plenty of room for improvement.
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Re: GT: Nets Vs Magic 7:30 11/28 

Post#62 » by Tha King » Tue Nov 29, 2022 3:34 pm

Mills
Thomas
Sharpe
2nd round pick

Can the team add an athletic rotation player or two from the above?

Kyrie/Curry
O'Neale/Harris
KD/Warren
Simmons/Yuta
Claxton

The above core could be very good with time. Just need a back up center and maybe another wing (for depth next to Yuta/Warren as not having either really impacts the team right now with no wing on the bench).
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Re: GT: Nets Vs Magic 7:30 11/28 

Post#63 » by NetsWorld » Tue Nov 29, 2022 4:58 pm

Tha King wrote:Mills
Thomas
Sharpe
2nd round pick

Can the team add an athletic rotation player or two from the above?

Kyrie/Curry
O'Neale/Harris
KD/Warren
Simmons/Yuta
Claxton

The above core could be very good with time. Just need a back up center and maybe another wing (for depth next to Yuta/Warren as not having either really impacts the team right now with no wing on the bench).



Orlando is tanking, and I think we can make a run at Bol Bol but we may have to add our first round pick instead of second. Bol Bol is a very young player and gives us much needed size that we lack. He would answer our paint problems, but the cheaper choice and one that actually makes sense without sacrificing much is getting Cousins on a non guaranteed deal. He ressurected his career with Milwaukee, a very good player development team, and he played really well for Denver. We really need to give him a chance.
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Re: GT: Nets Vs Magic 7:30 11/28 

Post#64 » by ChuckS » Tue Nov 29, 2022 5:49 pm

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MrDollarBills wrote:Gotta agree with what Kyrie just said, the game is trending towards taller and skilled big men.

We actually have one of those guys right now but we need to figure out how to put a championship roster around him. Marks has failed in that regard

It's been wings league since Magic. Nothing changed there. Players like LBJ, Giannis, Tatum. Luka just continuity of it. Than you got game changers and unique freak talents like Curry, Timmy, Joker, CP3 etc. But these players still need more talent around them to be successful.

I put KD in MJ and Kobe wanna be's who never figured it out. Kobe/MJ had a privilege to be coached by Zen who took their game into next level and made them best players ever. They exceptional scorers who also understand team concept, meaning how to pass and know when to defer to keep team going. KD just not that smart like them two.



I never believed it should be considered a disgrace if someone believed that Michael, or even Kobe, was better than another exceptional player. That is particularly true of Michael whose all time scoring average, with that of Wilt, has not yet been passed. And he's 5th on the all time points board, behind Kobe at four. But Jordan only played 15 years and everyone in the top seven played for 20 -- that is except for LeBron who is still in his nineteenth, and Dirk who played 22. Therefore I think it relevant to also weigh all time per game averages. I suspect Kevin is not ashamed of being fourth on both all time league and playoff averages lists.

What was surprising, with your obvious knowledge of the game, was your not believing he belongs among your current good wings and "freak talents". I doubt anyone in basketball's leadership would agree. I'm just one of the dumber fans, and even I disagree.

I'm also surprised you do not believe he could have learned even a little playing for modern luminaries like Krzyzewski, Popovich, or Kerr. I would think that he must understand team concept after winning two championships with finals MVP's, and four golds with an Olympic's MVP.

I was so confused, that I thought maybe you were just trolling. If so, just disregard this.
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Re: GT: Nets Vs Magic 7:30 11/28 

Post#65 » by JoseRizal » Tue Nov 29, 2022 11:09 pm

GTR11 wrote:
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Papi_swav wrote:KD carried the team, dude is a beast. Claxton held it down today too. O'neale is so clumsy, too many times he let the ball slip thru his hands and this is a recurring thing it's annoying. He's definitely a good addition and helps the team but he needs to put some glue on his hands or something. We def need Yuta and Warren back to take some of his mins. Joe helped today with his 17 pts, 3 pt shots haven't fell down yet but glad he attacked the basket. It looks like Simmons won't be able to play back to backs.


Clax really stepped up once Ben stepped out. The FO should really accept that these 2 can't really play together.

We need to trade for a starting C badly. Someone who can defend, rebound and stretch the floor.

Well Brian Lewis and numbers he provide says otherwise. Ben and Nic have net rating of +8.9 throughout the season. It really jumped since Ben came back from ankle injury. Nets also have + rebounds when they both on the floor together.

A lot of what you post will say you're a mediocre troll.


That's a small sample size and was against mediocre teams. Just wait 'til we match up against great to elite teams, to see how they will take advantage of our lack of spacing when the two of them plays together.

The eye test tells differently. We still get outrebounded, outhustled and outmuscled almost every game. Bigs of opposing teams instantly becomes Shaq when facing us.

This is not trolling, just stating some observations. If you're not open to that type of convversation, then you're mediocre yourself. A mediocre fanboy...
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Re: GT: Nets Vs Magic 7:30 11/28 

Post#66 » by JoseRizal » Tue Nov 29, 2022 11:14 pm

ArksNetsSince99 wrote:
JoseRizal wrote:Good win, not great. We're finally a .500 team! :lol:


Good win would’ve be smashing them by 30 by the end of third , resting starters with Durant having DNP , yet we struggled to put them away till the last minute with Durant scoring 45 against second worst team in the league at home

It’s not a good win

It’s not a mediocre win

It’s just a W -500 , not a win which builds team morale, it’s hard to take any positives from win like this , mediocrity at is best


I forgot the green font :lol:.

Definitely a bad win. Without a carry job from KD, we would've lost again from a depleted, tanking team.

I guess I'm just taking some positive on an overall underwhelming performance.
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Re: GT: Nets Vs Magic 7:30 11/28 

Post#67 » by GTR11 » Wed Nov 30, 2022 12:00 pm

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GTR11 wrote:
JoseRizal wrote:
Clax really stepped up once Ben stepped out. The FO should really accept that these 2 can't really play together.

We need to trade for a starting C badly. Someone who can defend, rebound and stretch the floor.

Well Brian Lewis and numbers he provide says otherwise. Ben and Nic have net rating of +8.9 throughout the season. It really jumped since Ben came back from ankle injury. Nets also have + rebounds when they both on the floor together.

A lot of what you post will say you're a mediocre troll.


That's a small sample size and was against mediocre teams. Just wait 'til we match up against great to elite teams, to see how they will take advantage of our lack of spacing when the two of them plays together.

The eye test tells differently. We still get outrebounded, outhustled and outmuscled almost every game. Bigs of opposing teams instantly becomes Shaq when facing us.

This is not trolling, just stating some observations. If you're not open to that type of convversation, then you're mediocre yourself. A mediocre fanboy...

We only 20 games into a season yet you believe you right :lol:

If you only use eyes without common sense, logic or let's say brain... than I'm not the one who you should be talking to.

Oh I really want to hear that :lol:
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Re: GT: Nets Vs Magic 7:30 11/28 

Post#68 » by GTR11 » Wed Nov 30, 2022 12:07 pm

ChuckS wrote:
GTR11 wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:Gotta agree with what Kyrie just said, the game is trending towards taller and skilled big men.

We actually have one of those guys right now but we need to figure out how to put a championship roster around him. Marks has failed in that regard

It's been wings league since Magic. Nothing changed there. Players like LBJ, Giannis, Tatum. Luka just continuity of it. Than you got game changers and unique freak talents like Curry, Timmy, Joker, CP3 etc. But these players still need more talent around them to be successful.

I put KD in MJ and Kobe wanna be's who never figured it out. Kobe/MJ had a privilege to be coached by Zen who took their game into next level and made them best players ever. They exceptional scorers who also understand team concept, meaning how to pass and know when to defer to keep team going. KD just not that smart like them two.



I never believed it should be considered a disgrace if someone believed that Michael, or even Kobe, was better than another exceptional player. That is particularly true of Michael whose all time scoring average, with that of Wilt, has not yet been passed. And he's 5th on the all time points board, behind Kobe at four. But Jordan only played 15 years and everyone in the top seven played for 20 -- that is except for LeBron who is still in his nineteenth, and Dirk who played 22. Therefore I think it relevant to also weigh all time per game averages. I suspect Kevin is not ashamed of being fourth on both all time league and playoff averages lists.

What was surprising, with your obvious knowledge of the game, was your not believing he belongs among your current good wings and "freak talents". I doubt anyone in basketball's leadership would agree. I'm just one of the dumber fans, and even I disagree.

I'm also surprised you do not believe he could have learned even a little playing for modern luminaries like Krzyzewski, Popovich, or Kerr. I would think that he must understand team concept after winning two championships with finals MVP's, and four golds with an Olympic's MVP.

I was so confused, that I thought maybe you were just trolling. If so, just disregard this.


1. Please help me out here, just not following you here
2. KD is arrogant and believes he knows more than enough. He himself said so. Reason why we don't have a good coach.

Kobe went through it. Thing is, he was smart enough to know he needs system coach that fits him in order to win.

KD did exactly opposite after di** rided Curry and Kerr.
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Re: GT: Nets Vs Magic 7:30 11/28 

Post#69 » by GTR11 » Wed Nov 30, 2022 12:11 pm

NetsWorld wrote:
Tha King wrote:Mills
Thomas
Sharpe
2nd round pick

Can the team add an athletic rotation player or two from the above?

Kyrie/Curry
O'Neale/Harris
KD/Warren
Simmons/Yuta
Claxton

The above core could be very good with time. Just need a back up center and maybe another wing (for depth next to Yuta/Warren as not having either really impacts the team right now with no wing on the bench).



Orlando is tanking, and I think we can make a run at Bol Bol but we may have to add our first round pick instead of second. Bol Bol is a very young player and gives us much needed size that we lack. He would answer our paint problems, but the cheaper choice and one that actually makes sense without sacrificing much is getting Cousins on a non guaranteed deal. He ressurected his career with Milwaukee, a very good player development team, and he played really well for Denver. We really need to give him a chance.

Better send Joe and Cam for Isaac. Just my opinion.
Cam will compensate for a pick.
Joe is a salary Filler and shooter they need.
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Re: GT: Nets Vs Magic 7:30 11/28 

Post#70 » by GTR11 » Wed Nov 30, 2022 12:21 pm

Gooner wrote:Vaughn is doing a good job, there is more discipline on offense evidently and defensively it's more solid but still plenty of room for improvement.

JV is a tool who won't get job interviews. Oh I'm sorry, he had one. No team ever tried to talk to him after.

This bum azz milking what Kokoskov trying to figure out.

We in some real trouble here. No way we can win vs Brad led Saltics or Bud with Bucks.

I think coach like D'Antoni is needed for this team. My wild guess is that he can unleash Ben's true potential. Maybe Lawrence Frank, but he just won't be able to handle Kyrie or KD.
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Re: GT: Nets Vs Magic 7:30 11/28 

Post#71 » by JoseRizal » Thu Dec 1, 2022 3:31 am

GTR11 wrote:
JoseRizal wrote:
GTR11 wrote:Well Brian Lewis and numbers he provide says otherwise. Ben and Nic have net rating of +8.9 throughout the season. It really jumped since Ben came back from ankle injury. Nets also have + rebounds when they both on the floor together.

A lot of what you post will say you're a mediocre troll.


That's a small sample size and was against mediocre teams. Just wait 'til we match up against great to elite teams, to see how they will take advantage of our lack of spacing when the two of them plays together.

The eye test tells differently. We still get outrebounded, outhustled and outmuscled almost every game. Bigs of opposing teams instantly becomes Shaq when facing us.

This is not trolling, just stating some observations. If you're not open to that type of convversation, then you're mediocre yourself. A mediocre fanboy...

We only 20 games into a season yet you believe you right :lol:

If you only use eyes without common sense, logic or let's say brain... than I'm not the one who you should be talking to.

Oh I really want to hear that :lol:


I'm not gonna be baited and respond to a dumb f@ck like you anymore... move on with your pathetic life boy...

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