Who gets the biggest blame?

Maverick41 · Post #1 » by **Maverick41** » Mon Nov 28, 2022 4:51 am

We're 19 games in and now under 500. This board is as united as it ever has been with pretty much everyone frustrated in some capacity. Now, who do YOU think gets the biggest piece of the blame pie? Let's look at the candidates and what me and others are saying:

A) Nico Harrison - he put this team together. He blew max capspace in offseason 2021 on THJ and Bullock. Traded KP for Dinwiddie and the abysmal contract of Bertans. Let go of Brunson for nothing. Signed McGee to the full TMLE and 3 years to boot. Oh and emphatically did not want to sign Dragic because "we have Frank." And before anyone says Cuban said that, Nico said it first. Cuban was just repeating.

B) Jason Kidd. Rotations have been insanely bad. Somehow has made it his mission to bring Wood down. Has had zero offensive creativity. Doesn't call timeouts during runs. He might have lost the team.

C) Mark Cuban. He's too busy with politics, crypto, Sharktank and others. He messed up getting mixed up with Gambler Bob. He was the key cog to hiring both Nico and Kidd. Also are we sure his wallet is open to luxury tax? Cuban talked big but he never really offered a bigger contract to Brunson then NY did.

D) Luka Doncic. He's been amazing offensively but his off ball movement and defense leaves a lot to be desired. His complaining to the refs and not getting back on defense impacts the team's morale. All that aside let's be real, would we even have 1 win without Luka?

E) The Players. What have they done to get better? Both Dinwiddie and Green have become better shooters but everyone else has regressed. Dinwiddie has forgotten how to draw fouls. Bullock doesn't even look like an NBA player right now and is somehow getting 28-32 mpg. DFS has regressed. THJ is a joke out there. Maxi is back to forgetting how to shoot. And oh boy, don't get me started with McGee.

F) No one. We'll be fine. Typical Mavs fan overreaction and "sky is falling" attitude. Shots will eventually fall and all will be well.

What are ya'll thoughts? This can be the "vent your frustrations" thread.

Michaellam1987 · Post #2 » by **Michaellam1987** » Mon Nov 28, 2022 9:15 am

Actually it is the combination of everything. We have too many role players that cannot score, or cannot give you anything except shooting wide open 3. Our offense is literally 1 of the worst among the league right now. We dont have mobile shot blocker, like JJJ or Turner. We dont have fast break points. Our rebounding ability is bad. Few bright points of DAL is that we go to FT line a lot, but we FT% is very bad, we dont have too much TOs as a team, but we neither force too many TOs against opponent teams as well. Our defense is overrated. Our opponent team score per game looks quite good, but its mainly due to the fact that we are playing at a very slow pace.

Post #3 » by **Mavrelous** » Mon Nov 28, 2022 9:23 am

It's Cuban, he's the owner, he's hiring the people, and he's the one playing with fire with generational talent on his team.
2nd is Nico has been a total joke, wasting 35 million in cap space to re-sign THJ, not extending Brunson.
3rd is Kidd.
4th is Luka, he should've turned tables when the roster was finalized.

41Dirk41 · Post #4 » by **41Dirk41** » Mon Nov 28, 2022 9:37 am

Mark
Cuban
That stupid Cuban

Maverick41 · Post #5 » by **Maverick41** » Mon Nov 28, 2022 11:38 am

Mavrelous wrote:4th is Luka, he should've turned tables when the roster was finalized.

You know, you might be right about this. I always hated it when Lebron would beg for talent upgrades and play LeGM but it did get results. Even Giannis did it by lighting a match under MIL until they traded for Holiday.

Luka has said everything right about his teammates and has never waivered even when pestered constantly. It's honestly admirable. However, it might be time he have a real talking with Nico, Kidd and Cuban about the roster and rotations. Nothing would get them to make change faster then Luka voicing displeasure.

Post #6 » by **Mavrelous** » Mon Nov 28, 2022 11:52 am

Maverick41 wrote:
Mavrelous wrote:4th is Luka, he should've turned tables when the roster was finalized.

You know, you might be right about this. I always hated it when Lebron would beg for talent upgrades and play LeGM but it did get results. Even Giannis did it by lighting a match under MIL until they traded for Holiday.

Luka has said everything right about his teammates and has never waivered even when pestered constantly. It's honestly admirable. However, it might be time he have a real talking with Nico, Kidd and Cuban about the roster and rotations. Nothing would get them to make change faster then Luka voicing displeasure.

This, Trae Young did it twice, Kobe did it back in the day, Harden did it in Houston, I'm sure Giannis had a say in the deal that brought Holiday in exchange of all of Bucks future capital, Tatum and Ja don't need to, their FOs surrounded did them with enough talent, even Dirk, while not being the turn the table and yell king of guy, he did have a say in FO moves.

I also respect Luka for listening to Kidd criticizing him in the PO and not uttering a word, he sets example to his teammates, but when you are asked to do this much offensively, you can't also contribute defensively, I watched the guy long enough, once you understand he's not a PG, but a PF on defense, you understand he's a good defender, the lack of rim protection on the team made him a target of every P&R.

Apz · Post #7 » by **Apz** » Mon Nov 28, 2022 12:50 pm

Kidd for not adapting, and players for not playing up to their normal standards. So a combination of those imo. If the roleplayers start shooting their normal numbers we win, players get out of the blame and so do kidd

Archx · Post #8 » by **Archx** » Mon Nov 28, 2022 1:31 pm

The most delusional and clueless guy on Mavs team should get the blame, then the FO.

Read on Twitter

Maverick41 · Post #9 » by **Maverick41** » Mon Nov 28, 2022 1:37 pm

Archx wrote:The most delusional and clueless guy on Mavs team should get the blame, then the FO.

Read on Twitter

I saw that tweet earlier and I bursted out laughing. Kidds agenda against Wood and Mavs fans is just comical at this point.

41Dirk41 · Post #10 » by **41Dirk41** » Mon Nov 28, 2022 1:41 pm

Kidd lives in Matrix.

Forbes · Post #11 » by **Forbes** » Mon Nov 28, 2022 1:47 pm

I can’t blame Luka for much. Nico put this team together. You know what your star player is capable of, you failed to add solid interior defender and another capable ball handler/facilitator to lighten the load.

Kidd having to work with what he’s given isn’t even giving Wood a large amount of playing time although he helps offensively. Liability on defense but scoring helps keep the Mavs close. I think it’s just time for Kidd to go but I don’t even have a solid replacement in mind for him.

Also what kills me in close games are they Luka stepbacks for the win. I’ll give Luka the blame for that. Stop it, clearly you are high percentage in the post,

Archx · Post #12 » by **Archx** » Mon Nov 28, 2022 1:54 pm

Maverick41 wrote:I saw that tweet earlier and I bursted out laughing. Kidds agenda against Wood and Mavs fans is just comical at this point.

I hope Dirk sooner than later figures out that Kidd is not it and starts putting pressure on Cuban. But as long as Kidd has support from his closest friends, nothing is going to change. At some point Wood will be fed up and simply refuse any extension and Mavs will be left with no assests.

Bob8 · Post #13 » by **Bob8** » Mon Nov 28, 2022 2:32 pm

Archx wrote:
Maverick41 wrote:I saw that tweet earlier and I bursted out laughing. Kidds agenda against Wood and Mavs fans is just comical at this point.

I hope Dirk sooner than later figures out that Kidd is not it and starts putting pressure on Cuban. But as long as Kidd has support from his closest friends, nothing is going to change. At some point Wood will be fed up and simply refuse any extension and Mavs will be left with no assests.

I'm not sure Dirk is that kind of a guy to put pressure on Cuban.

fuller4379 · Post #14 » by **fuller4379** » Thu Dec 1, 2022 8:07 pm

The New York Knicks for overpaying our sixth man as if he was a top 10 NBA point guard.

Maverick41 · Post #15 » by **Maverick41** » Thu Dec 1, 2022 8:25 pm

fuller4379 wrote:The New York Knicks for overpaying our sixth man as if he was a top 10 NBA point guard.

He's actually the 15th highest paid PG right now and will probably drop past the 20s when younger PGs eventually get their extensions (Haliburton, Maxey, Lamelo, etc.). Not to mention the cap likely to go up.

I think when you put it all in totality, especially seeing how he's playing now, Brunson has earned that contract, arguably surpassed it. Nico and Cuban messed up.

guille_4 · Post #16 » by **guille_4** » Fri Dec 2, 2022 9:32 am

Maverick41 wrote:
fuller4379 wrote:The New York Knicks for overpaying our sixth man as if he was a top 10 NBA point guard.

He's actually the 15th highest paid PG right now and will probably drop past the 20s when younger PGs eventually get their extensions (Haliburton, Maxey, Lamelo, etc.). Not to mention the cap likely to go up.

I think when you put it all in totality, especially seeing how he's playing now, Brunson has earned that contract, arguably surpassed it. Nico and Cuban messed up.

They messed up by not extending him before last season. He was willing to take 80 million for 4/5 years in the 2021 offseason.

Forbes · Post #17 » by **Forbes** » Sat Dec 3, 2022 8:15 pm

Cuban has to eat all the Blame. We have had trouble getting talent FOREVER!!! I have no idea why it’s been so hard especially when there are no state taxes, great weather and an owner that supposedly always had no problem spending. Why is it so hard to get Talent even when you have one of the top players in the league.

Almost any star paired with Luka would result in a chip, literally.

Nico messed up not locking in Brunson early last season. Just as a guy coming off the bench he was worth extending. I’m sure no fans had a clue Brunson was going to Blow up like he did. However, the people that see Brunson everyday should have known his potential. They messed up big time. We see Brunson in games and see directly what he’s capable of. The team see Brunson behind the scenes which I guarantee he had to be performing extremely well in practice. Even if we entended him he was going to be a massive trade asset regardless.

I don’t mind losing him for nothin at this point because I wrong want anymore knick players on this team, the mistake was made when they did not extend him. That’s on Nico. But Cuban get majority of the blame.

I won’t blame Kidd because he has his little strategies of getting players but in on defense and I think that’s what he’s doing with Wood. Wood on defense moves like his feet are in cinderblocks. It doesn’t even make sense because on offense he’s pretty bouncy for a big. I think that pisses Kidd off because clearly defense is about effort and Wood just isn’t competing. You have the ability, use it.

arkuo · Post #18 » by **arkuo** » Sun Dec 4, 2022 6:19 am

Cuban has been mailing it in for a while now. He seems to be interested with other things. Mavs are giving him passive income and does not require him to be hands on. IMO he needs to be more hands on similar to the Cuban of the early 2000s.

Post #19 » by **HMFFL** » Sun Dec 4, 2022 1:44 pm

arkuo wrote:Cuban has been mailing it in for a while now. He seems to be interested with other things. Mavs are giving him passive income and does not require him to be hands on. IMO he needs to be more hands on similar to the Cuban of the early 2000s.

Just a friendly reminder that Mark Cuban is 64 years old. Time passes all of us by rather quickly at times.

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