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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#321 » by Kevin Willis » Fri Dec 2, 2022 12:21 am

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Yet to catch one of his games, but he seems to fit the mold, huh? Let's see if the shooting holds up.

Trevon Brazile is another of these unheralded big wing types... there are going to be some steals in this draft!


I'm amazed you're finding these gems. Brazile does play for a good team but still he's not well known.

https://www.bestofarkansassports.com/arkansas-basketball-trevon-brazile-prediction-2022/
He had the biggest dunk of the season (NBA or NCAA) a couple of weeks ago. He also plays for a team with three 5 star recruits. It's not like he's flying under the radar.

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True. But he's a transfer and the least noteworthy compared to their recruits. I care less about teams and more about potential picks. So even though I do watch games, I look at certain players in the games instead of the entire team until March Madness then I enjoy. For me he was not on my radar as much as his teammates. It's easier to track 50 - 60 players than to track 50 teams, or for me it is.

For example last year I watched a few Rutgers games but ask me who the second best player was and I couldn't tell you. So I appreciate when people like yourself post players that are doing well that I might not be focusing on, then I could start paying attention to them. Thanks.
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#322 » by WuTang_CMB » Fri Dec 2, 2022 2:09 am

maxwell lewis been lights out to start the season with a whopping 53% from 3, i like him
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#323 » by grant101 » Fri Dec 2, 2022 2:13 am

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I'm amazed you're finding these gems. Brazile does play for a good team but still he's not well known.

https://www.bestofarkansassports.com/arkansas-basketball-trevon-brazile-prediction-2022/
He had the biggest dunk of the season (NBA or NCAA) a couple of weeks ago. He also plays for a team with three 5 star recruits. It's not like he's flying under the radar.

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True. But he's a transfer and the least noteworthy compared to their recruits. I care less about teams and more about potential picks. So even though I do watch games, I look at certain players in the games instead of the entire team until March Madness then I enjoy. For me he was not on my radar as much as his teammates. It's easier to track 50 - 60 players than to track 50 teams, or for me it is.

For example last year I watched a few Rutgers games but ask me who the second best player was and I couldn't tell you. So I appreciate when people like yourself post players that are doing well that I might not be focusing on, then I could start paying attention to them. Thanks.


Tracking all these prospects is next to impossible, there are so many leagues, and the sheer number of intriguing players this year is bonkers! Trevon is legit, and looks to be breaking out this year on a really good team. He's got all the tools and a great motor, but he's going to have to show the shooting is real.

Another two deep cut prospects with great names with interesting games (both of whom play on Miami): Norchad Omier and Wooga Poplar. Norchad is much further along, but Wooga has some crazy hops!

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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#324 » by BoyzNTheHood » Fri Dec 2, 2022 4:07 am

Let's talk about this kid from Syracuse named Coleman Hawkins as well. He doesn't jump off the stat sheet or anything, but recently dropped a triple double.

He looks like a role player, but at his peak I think he can be a guy who you trust to always make the right play. I think he's worth a look in the second round.

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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#325 » by BoyzNTheHood » Fri Dec 2, 2022 4:09 am

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I'm amazed you're finding these gems. Brazile does play for a good team but still he's not well known.

https://www.bestofarkansassports.com/arkansas-basketball-trevon-brazile-prediction-2022/
He had the biggest dunk of the season (NBA or NCAA) a couple of weeks ago. He also plays for a team with three 5 star recruits. It's not like he's flying under the radar.

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True. But he's a transfer and the least noteworthy compared to their recruits. I care less about teams and more about potential picks. So even though I do watch games, I look at certain players in the games instead of the entire team until March Madness then I enjoy. For me he was not on my radar as much as his teammates. It's easier to track 50 - 60 players than to track 50 teams, or for me it is.

For example last year I watched a few Rutgers games but ask me who the second best player was and I couldn't tell you. So I appreciate when people like yourself post players that are doing well that I might not be focusing on, then I could start paying attention to them. Thanks.


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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#326 » by PhilBlackson » Fri Dec 2, 2022 7:30 am

Shout out Leonard Miller for quietly being pretty damn good for the Ignite so far.
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#327 » by grant101 » Fri Dec 2, 2022 5:56 pm

BoyzNTheHood wrote:Let's talk about this kid from Syracuse named Coleman Hawkins as well. He doesn't jump off the stat sheet or anything, but recently dropped a triple double.

He looks like a role player, but at his peak I think he can be a guy who you trust to always make the right play. I think he's worth a look in the second round.

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Guessing you're referring to the Illinois center (who had a great game against Syracuse). If so, I can definitely see the appeal. He's got great touch (despite the FT%)and is an excellent ball-mover. He's also shooting much better from 3 this year. My main concern with him is his average athleticism and defensive skills. Particularly for what the Raps expect. He just seems stiff out there. He also doesn't rebound particularly well for a big.

Beyond Shannon Jr, the player I like most on that team is Skyy Clarke. The kid's a baller. I think he stays an extra year though as he recovers from the injury.
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#328 » by JShuttlesworth » Fri Dec 2, 2022 6:15 pm

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BoyzNTheHood wrote:Let's talk about this kid from Syracuse named Coleman Hawkins as well. He doesn't jump off the stat sheet or anything, but recently dropped a triple double.

He looks like a role player, but at his peak I think he can be a guy who you trust to always make the right play. I think he's worth a look in the second round.

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Guessing you're referring to the Illinois center (who had a great game against Syracuse). If so, I can definitely see the appeal. He's got great touch (despite the FT%)and is an excellent ball-mover. He's also shooting much better from 3 this year. My main concern with him is his average athleticism and defensive skills. Particularly for what the Raps expect. He just seems stiff out there. He also doesn't rebound particularly well for a big.

Beyond Shannon Jr, the player I like most on that team is Skyy Clarke. The kid's a baller. I think he stays an extra year though as he recovers from the injury.


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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#329 » by CoinTossRoss31 » Fri Dec 2, 2022 6:19 pm

PhilBlackson wrote:Shout out Leonard Miller for quietly being pretty damn good for the Ignite so far.


I wonder if he would have fell to us in the second round last year
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#330 » by JShuttlesworth » Fri Dec 2, 2022 6:26 pm

ESPN has Jett Howard from Michigan ranked 14th right now

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/5105806/jett-howard
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#331 » by Psubs » Fri Dec 2, 2022 7:29 pm

JShuttlesworth wrote:ESPN has Jett Howard from Michigan ranked 14th right now

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/5105806/jett-howard


6'8 Freshman Guard with an A/T over 2, shooting 40% from 3, seems good. He's Juwan Howard's son, so good genes. He was only 6'5 last year. Maybe he'll be like Franz Wagner with better handles and 3pt shooting?

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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#332 » by PhilBlackson » Fri Dec 2, 2022 8:07 pm

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JShuttlesworth wrote:ESPN has Jett Howard from Michigan ranked 14th right now

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/5105806/jett-howard


6'8 Freshman Guard with an A/T over 2, shooting 40% from 3, seems good. He's Juwan Howard's son, so good genes. He was only 6'5 last year. Maybe he'll be like Franz Wagner with better handles and 3pt shooting?



Personally I don't see a big time star player BUT he does seem like a such an under talked about prospect because I could see him being a REALLY good starter in the league.

Not a fan of the Wagner comparison though. Not sure if that was just due to playing at Michigan lol but Franz being 6'10 makes a difference positionally & how effective or not they can be. Franz is really good BECAUSE he's the size of a PF but as skilled as a SF, Jett's a good size but he's almost become the standard size of most SFs and he's just an ok athlete. That added height & size can make all the difference.
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#333 » by Kevin Willis » Fri Dec 2, 2022 8:16 pm

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JShuttlesworth wrote:ESPN has Jett Howard from Michigan ranked 14th right now

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/5105806/jett-howard


6'8 Freshman Guard with an A/T over 2, shooting 40% from 3, seems good. He's Juwan Howard's son, so good genes. He was only 6'5 last year. Maybe he'll be like Franz Wagner with better handles and 3pt shooting?



He screams Raptor type

- 6'8" and long
- can defend 1-4
- can play make and be a back-up PG
- strong shooting range, can shoot in motion
- good motor

I definitely see him as a SG to continue our experiment. Replace Trent Jr. except come of the bench.
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#334 » by Psubs » Fri Dec 2, 2022 8:41 pm

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JShuttlesworth wrote:ESPN has Jett Howard from Michigan ranked 14th right now

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/5105806/jett-howard


6'8 Freshman Guard with an A/T over 2, shooting 40% from 3, seems good. He's Juwan Howard's son, so good genes. He was only 6'5 last year. Maybe he'll be like Franz Wagner with better handles and 3pt shooting?



Personally I don't see a big time star player BUT he does seem like a such an under talked about prospect because I could see him being a REALLY good starter in the league.

Not a fan of the Wagner comparison though. Not sure if that was just due to playing at Michigan lol but Franz being 6'10 makes a difference positionally & how effective or not they can be. Franz is really good BECAUSE he's the size of a PF but as skilled as a SF, Jett's a good size but he's almost become the standard size of most SFs and he's just an ok athlete. That added height & size can make all the difference.


Is he really 6'10 though. Prior to the draft he was listed at 6'8. I sure he's 6'9 as a lot of places list him at that. 6'10 maybe.

Jett was 6'5 last season and a guard, I see him as a SG/SF that can be a combo-guard like Banton. As of Sept 1 he was listed at 6'7 and now 6'8. I guess ultimately by next season he could top out at 6'9. Seems like he's having a late growth spurt. Perhaps like Giannis? at 6'9 he is just a regular PF but growing to 7'0 after being drafted allowed Giannis to dunk everything which changed his career trajectory.
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#335 » by niQ » Fri Dec 2, 2022 11:14 pm



Really like Sidy Cissoko if he's available late first round. He's like a young OG with better handles/passing.
I see Emoni Bates as a high upside flyer. Like a Peyton Watson or Brandon Boston.
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Post#336 » by Mark_83 » Sat Dec 3, 2022 3:22 am

This team is playing so uninspired. I wouldn't hate getting a lottery pick in this draft. Getting a scorer like Miller/George/Smith or a guy like Cason Wallace or GG, would be huge.
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Post#337 » by BoyzNTheHood » Sat Dec 3, 2022 4:10 am

grant101 wrote:
BoyzNTheHood wrote:Let's talk about this kid from Syracuse named Coleman Hawkins as well. He doesn't jump off the stat sheet or anything, but recently dropped a triple double.

He looks like a role player, but at his peak I think he can be a guy who you trust to always make the right play. I think he's worth a look in the second round.

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Guessing you're referring to the Illinois center (who had a great game against Syracuse). If so, I can definitely see the appeal. He's got great touch (despite the FT%)and is an excellent ball-mover. He's also shooting much better from 3 this year. My main concern with him is his average athleticism and defensive skills. Particularly for what the Raps expect. He just seems stiff out there. He also doesn't rebound particularly well for a big.

Beyond Shannon Jr, the player I like most on that team is Skyy Clarke. The kid's a baller. I think he stays an extra year though as he recovers from the injury.
Sorry yes, I meant Illinois! He looks a little stiff but I don't think you draft a guy like him to be an athletic monster. He seems like the type of guy you bring off the bench that facilitates the offense as a big.

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Post#338 » by BoyzNTheHood » Sat Dec 3, 2022 4:36 am

We could really use a guy like Cam Whitmore. Outside of the top 2-5 he seems like the most likely to develop into a star in my opinion. The only issue is not seeing him against NCAA competition yet, but it's early.

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Post#339 » by Psubs » Sat Dec 3, 2022 7:25 am

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Really like Sidy Cissoko if he's available late first round. He's like a young OG with better handles/passing.
I see Emoni Bates as a high upside flyer. Like a Peyton Watson or Brandon Boston.


I think Sidy is like Luol Deng with better passing.
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Post#340 » by PhilBlackson » Sat Dec 3, 2022 2:08 pm

BoyzNTheHood wrote:We could really use a guy like Cam Whitmore. Outside of the top 2-5 he seems like the most likely to develop into a star in my opinion. The only issue is not seeing him against NCAA competition yet, but it's early.

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I think Cam goes top 5.

Besides the obvious top 2, the only other guy I think MIGHT go ahead of him is Amen. But yeah I’d absolutely love if we were able to get him. Interested who you think would go before him other than those guys but personally those would be the only prospects I’d put ahead of him. He looks like a potentially ever so slightly more athletic version of Jaylen Brown to me.
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