2022 Season Thread

Samurai · Post #401 » by **Samurai** » Tue Nov 29, 2022 6:28 am

Niners also signed CB Janoris Jenkins to the practice squad. While he is 34 and hasn't played at all this season, he started every game for the Titans last season. He excels in man coverage, which can be very helpful when one of your starting CB's is Lenoir. Last season, Jenkins had a PFF grade of 65.4; this season Lenoir is at 55.5. Womack, by the way, has a grade of 72.7, making him our 2nd highest CB behind Charvarius Ward (80.3). But for some reason, Womack seems to be in Ryan's doghouse and is clearly behind Lenoir on the depth chart.

Jikkle · Post #402 » by **Jikkle** » Tue Nov 29, 2022 7:57 am

Samurai wrote:Niners also signed CB Janoris Jenkins to the practice squad. While he is 34 and hasn't played at all this season, he started every game for the Titans last season. He excels in man coverage, which can be very helpful when one of your starting CB's is Lenoir. Last season, Jenkins had a PFF grade of 65.4; this season Lenoir is at 55.5. Womack, by the way, has a grade of 72.7, making him our 2nd highest CB behind Charvarius Ward (80.3). But for some reason, Womack seems to be in Ryan's doghouse and is clearly behind Lenoir on the depth chart.

Shanahan typically avoids playing rookies if he can help it and I believe it boils down to the mental aspect rather than a physical one.

So I just think they prefer to play a more experienced guy who has a deeper understanding of where and what he should be doing than a rookie who might not have that completely down and could blow a coverage or screw up leading to big plays.

CrimsonCrew · Post #403 » by **CrimsonCrew** » Tue Nov 29, 2022 5:17 pm

Jikkle wrote:
Samurai wrote:Niners also signed CB Janoris Jenkins to the practice squad. While he is 34 and hasn't played at all this season, he started every game for the Titans last season. He excels in man coverage, which can be very helpful when one of your starting CB's is Lenoir. Last season, Jenkins had a PFF grade of 65.4; this season Lenoir is at 55.5. Womack, by the way, has a grade of 72.7, making him our 2nd highest CB behind Charvarius Ward (80.3). But for some reason, Womack seems to be in Ryan's doghouse and is clearly behind Lenoir on the depth chart.

Shanahan typically avoids playing rookies if he can help it and I believe it boils down to the mental aspect rather than a physical one.

So I just think they prefer to play a more experienced guy who has a deeper understanding of where and what he should be doing than a rookie who might not have that completely down and could blow a coverage or screw up leading to big plays.

Which he did last year to our clear detriment at CB. Granted Thomas had some real growing pains. Lenoir isn't exactly an established vet, and he's a clear liability. They seem to be trying to phase Womack in more, so hopefully he starts getting more opportunities.

CrimsonCrew · Post #404 » by **CrimsonCrew** » Tue Nov 29, 2022 5:18 pm

Incidentally, it's a real shame that Thomas hasn't built on last year, when he finished the season off showing some real improvement. His physical profile is much more that of an outside corner than either Lenoir or Womack, and it would be great to see him actually contribute.

zman1 · Post #405 » by **zman1** » Tue Nov 29, 2022 6:26 pm

CrimsonCrew wrote:Mitchell out six to eight weeks. Ugh. Didn't like the Wilson trade when it happened, and sure don't like it now. Better hope one of the rookies can step up....

Interesting that Mostert tweeted that niners push guys to come back too soon from injury. Might explain some things. If true it is a terrible strategy. Guys won't be effective and too likely to go down again. Did Mitchell reinjure the same knee?

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Samurai · Post #406 » by **Samurai** » Tue Nov 29, 2022 6:58 pm

Jikkle wrote:
Samurai wrote:Niners also signed CB Janoris Jenkins to the practice squad. While he is 34 and hasn't played at all this season, he started every game for the Titans last season. He excels in man coverage, which can be very helpful when one of your starting CB's is Lenoir. Last season, Jenkins had a PFF grade of 65.4; this season Lenoir is at 55.5. Womack, by the way, has a grade of 72.7, making him our 2nd highest CB behind Charvarius Ward (80.3). But for some reason, Womack seems to be in Ryan's doghouse and is clearly behind Lenoir on the depth chart.

Shanahan typically avoids playing rookies if he can help it and I believe it boils down to the mental aspect rather than a physical one.

So I just think they prefer to play a more experienced guy who has a deeper understanding of where and what he should be doing than a rookie who might not have that completely down and could blow a coverage or screw up leading to big plays.

I understand Shanahan has a "thing" against rookies but Lenoir this season has already played more than twice as many defensive snaps as he had all last season so he isn't exactly a Richard Sherman in terms of experience. It all comes down to who gives you the best chance to win. Womack is far from a Pro Bowl CB, but his nose for the football gives him a higher ceiling and I think he is a few steps closer to that level than Lenoir is. If Womack proves to be an upgrade, then Lenoir can become the nickel corner and allow JWard to move back to safety where he is more comfortable and was arguably a top-five safety last season.

Samurai · Post #407 » by **Samurai** » Tue Nov 29, 2022 7:01 pm

CrimsonCrew wrote:Incidentally, it's a real shame that Thomas hasn't built on last year, when he finished the season off showing some real improvement. His physical profile is much more that of an outside corner than either Lenoir or Womack, and it would be great to see him actually contribute.

That is puzzling. I wonder if that is a reflection of Thomas' lack of desire, athleticism, or ability to learn or the coaching staff's inability to develop young secondary players. Given that Hufanga has developed very well since last season, I'm leaning towards the former.

CrimsonCrew · Post #408 » by **CrimsonCrew** » Wed Nov 30, 2022 8:01 pm

McCaffrey not practicing today. If we are missing both him and Mitchell, only to face the high-powered offense that now includes Jeff Wilson, I'm going to be frustrated....

Samurai · Post #409 » by **Samurai** » Fri Dec 2, 2022 6:52 pm

CrimsonCrew wrote:McCaffrey not practicing today. If we are missing both him and Mitchell, only to face the high-powered offense that now includes Jeff Wilson, I'm going to be frustrated....

McCaffrey missed Wednesday's practice but returned on Thursday, albeit he was limited. Deebo practiced Wednesday but was limited and did not practice on Thursday. Even if both play (CMC said he will play), there is a good chance they will be less than fully effective. Mason seems like he should be hungry and he runs like he's always angry. Would love to see him take out that anger on the fishies Sunday. If Deebo can't go, or if he isn't the real Deebo, seems like a great time for Jennings to show that he is more than just a 3rd down back. And maybe Gray can get his first catch of the year.

Samurai · Post #410 » by **Samurai** » Fri Dec 2, 2022 10:07 pm

And Trent Williams left practice on Friday early with back spasms; he is now questionable for Sunday.

CrimsonCrew · Post #411 » by **CrimsonCrew** » Fri Dec 2, 2022 11:37 pm

Both Dolphins' OTs likely out this weekend. Bosa needs to feast if we're going to stop this offense.

arich35 · Post #412 » by **arich35** » Sat Dec 3, 2022 1:48 am

CrimsonCrew wrote:Both Dolphins' OTs likely out this weekend. Bosa needs to feast if we're going to stop this offense.

You know McDaniels is going to make sure the ball is out quick or someone is there to help on Bosa. Armstead being back should help out though.
Deebo is questionable but based on comments from Kyle it doesn't look promising

Samurai · Post #413 » by **Samurai** » Sat Dec 3, 2022 6:11 pm

CrimsonCrew wrote:Both Dolphins' OTs likely out this weekend. Bosa needs to feast if we're going to stop this offense.

If I were the Dolphins, I'd double team or have at least a TE or RB chip Bosa on every passing down. That would make it difficult for Bosa to put up big individual sack or pressure numbers. But the extra attention should allow whoever is playing on the opposite edge (Ebukam, Drake, Omenihu) to have a big day. When Bosa gets constantly doubled, his biggest impact is the disruption he can cause on the rest of the line because he draws so much attention.

Dodub · Post #414 » by **Dodub** » Sun Dec 4, 2022 5:47 pm

If the 49ers re-sign Jimmy, then I’m going to be convinced that Grant Cohn is right about them. He said that the 49ers FO is content with being relevant and making money, they aren’t willing to take risks in order to take the next step.

It would show me that being “good enough” is ok with them, but the fans want to win a Super Bowl.

Samurai · Post #415 » by **Samurai** » Mon Dec 5, 2022 12:50 am

Shanahan said Jimmy's foot injury is season-ending. So its Brock Purdy's team the rest of the way.

wco81 · Post #416 » by **wco81** » Mon Dec 5, 2022 1:04 am

Samurai wrote:Shanahan said Jimmy's foot injury is season-ending. So its Brock Purdy's team the rest of the way.

Jimmy didn’t learn much from Brady, like throwing the ball away, not risking sack or turnover.

Or protecting the ball and himself when he can’t avoid the sack.

He had two guys on him so not sure what he was thinking, that he’d escape?

Oh well.

Honestly there are too many potent passing teams ahead, especially if they get into the playoffs. Unless Bosa and some other DL absolutely dominates for 4 straight playoff games, the secondary is going to be vulnerable to giving up big plays.

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Jikkle · Post #418 » by **Jikkle** » Mon Dec 5, 2022 2:54 am

Dodub wrote:If the 49ers re-sign Jimmy, then I’m going to be convinced that Grant Cohn is right about them. He said that the 49ers FO is content with being relevant and making money, they aren’t willing to take risks in order to take the next step.

It would show me that being “good enough” is ok with them, but the fans want to win a Super Bowl.

You can never tell with this team but this latest injury probably puts an end to the 9ers resigning him.

I thought he would've needed a really strong playoff performance for the team to seriously consider resigning him and now we'll never know if he would've had one or not.

This season is probably the best he's looked since 2017 but the Seahawks are the only team that they've won against that has a winning record and they aren't exactly a juggernaut, especially on defense.

It depends on his market but hard for me to see the 9ers outbidding other teams with a serious interest when cap space is at a premium moreso now with CMC on the team and you have to get Trey Lance onto the field or he'll never improve and you'll never know if he's got it or not.

thesack12 · Post #419 » by **thesack12** » Mon Dec 5, 2022 3:00 am

Only 3 season ending injuries among QB's this season.

Its incredibly crushing, that the 49ers are the victims on 66% of those.

Absolutely Brutal.

wco81 · Post #420 » by **wco81** » Mon Dec 5, 2022 3:13 am

How long was it suppose to take for Trey to recover and be fully rehabbed?

I know they probably put him on IR, making him ineligible to play even if he was able to?

I think they're in the window, with a mix of high-salary players and now Bosa coming due for a big contract soon.

So they may feel pressure to have a good backup in case Trey still doesn't produce next season. They can't go through another season with uncertainty at the QB position. Too many good players and a high payroll for them to discard a season.