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Post#461 » by Mamba81p » Mon Dec 5, 2022 5:58 am

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clyde21 wrote:so many people on twitterland mad as hell that this World Cup has been going so well, pretty funny stuff.


This World Cup has been nothing but a disaster from the start, no matter how much you try to paint a positive picture for your beloved organizers. All the issues with the hotels(https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-10-04/fifa-world-cup-qatar-2022-thousands-of-hotel-rooms-made-available?leadSource=uverify%20wall), playing the freaking World Cup in November, with only 1 week of pause between club competitions and the start of the tournament, which directly resulted in the top 2 players(according to Ballon d'Or) to missing the tournament, and many more...


oh yea, western media foaming at the mouth about hotel rooms that were all made readily available before the tournament started, not a single person that wanted a hotel room in Qatar didn't get one, so I'm not sure what you or Bloomberg's problem with 'hotel rooms' is. :lol:

as for the start being in November, that was 100% for the safety of players who would've been playing in the middle of 120 degree heat if the tournament started in June/July like it usually is. so unless you wanted the players dying of heat stroke, pretty sure that was the right decision.

by all accounts from people on the ground it's been an incredibly well run tournament and one of the safest, but of course that's not gonna stop the disgusting xenophobia and racism from western outlets that wanted the WC to fail so badly to seep thru.


I can tell you never went to a tournament like the World Cup. Having the hotels available 1 month before the tournament starts is absolutely asinine.

Qatar's bid said the tournament will be played in June, so they lied when they made the bid. They came with some BS solutions, and how the tournament will be played in June. They knew very well that a tournament in November is going to be a disaster, that's why they lied. I am not sure why they had to lie though, when they had their bribes ready for their votes.
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Post#462 » by clyde21 » Mon Dec 5, 2022 5:58 am

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Mamba81p wrote:
This World Cup has been nothing but a disaster from the start, no matter how much you try to paint a positive picture for your beloved organizers. All the issues with the hotels(https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-10-04/fifa-world-cup-qatar-2022-thousands-of-hotel-rooms-made-available?leadSource=uverify%20wall), playing the freaking World Cup in November, with only 1 week of pause between club competitions and the start of the tournament, which directly resulted in the top 2 players(according to Ballon d'Or) to missing the tournament, and many more...


oh yea, western media foaming at the mouth about hotel rooms that were all made readily available before the tournament started, not a single person that wanted a hotel room in Qatar didn't get one, so I'm not sure what you or Bloomberg's problem with 'hotel rooms' is. :lol:

as for the start being in November, that was 100% for the safety of players who would've been playing in the middle of 120 degree heat if the tournament started in June/July like it usually is. so unless you wanted the players dying of heat stroke, pretty sure that was the right decision.

by all accounts from people on the ground it's been an incredibly well run tournament and one of the safest, but of course that's not gonna stop the disgusting xenophobia and racism from western outlets that wanted the WC to fail so badly to seep thru.


I gotta hand it to you. You really think you're running on some sort of platform aren't you? If only you channeled all this energy in real life instead of on realgm. My guess is you don't do jack **** about it.


about what? :lol:
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Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022 - Knockout Phase 

Post#463 » by clyde21 » Mon Dec 5, 2022 5:59 am

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clyde21 wrote:
Mamba81p wrote:
This World Cup has been nothing but a disaster from the start, no matter how much you try to paint a positive picture for your beloved organizers. All the issues with the hotels(https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-10-04/fifa-world-cup-qatar-2022-thousands-of-hotel-rooms-made-available?leadSource=uverify%20wall), playing the freaking World Cup in November, with only 1 week of pause between club competitions and the start of the tournament, which directly resulted in the top 2 players(according to Ballon d'Or) to missing the tournament, and many more...


oh yea, western media foaming at the mouth about hotel rooms that were all made readily available before the tournament started, not a single person that wanted a hotel room in Qatar didn't get one, so I'm not sure what you or Bloomberg's problem with 'hotel rooms' is. :lol:

as for the start being in November, that was 100% for the safety of players who would've been playing in the middle of 120 degree heat if the tournament started in June/July like it usually is. so unless you wanted the players dying of heat stroke, pretty sure that was the right decision.

by all accounts from people on the ground it's been an incredibly well run tournament and one of the safest, but of course that's not gonna stop the disgusting xenophobia and racism from western outlets that wanted the WC to fail so badly to seep thru.


I can tell you never went to a tournament like the World Cup. Having the hotels available 1 month before the tournament starts is absolutely asinine.

Qatar's bid said the tournament will be played in June, so they lied when they made the bid. They came with some BS solutions, and how the tournament will be played in June. They knew very well that a tournament in November is going to be a disaster, that's why they lied. I am not sure why they had to lie though, when they had their bribes ready for their votes.


maybe if you keep pretending it's been a disaster tournament it'll be true
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Post#464 » by Mamba81p » Mon Dec 5, 2022 6:02 am

clyde21 wrote:
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oh yea, western media foaming at the mouth about hotel rooms that were all made readily available before the tournament started, not a single person that wanted a hotel room in Qatar didn't get one, so I'm not sure what you or Bloomberg's problem with 'hotel rooms' is. :lol:

as for the start being in November, that was 100% for the safety of players who would've been playing in the middle of 120 degree heat if the tournament started in June/July like it usually is. so unless you wanted the players dying of heat stroke, pretty sure that was the right decision.

by all accounts from people on the ground it's been an incredibly well run tournament and one of the safest, but of course that's not gonna stop the disgusting xenophobia and racism from western outlets that wanted the WC to fail so badly to seep thru.


I can tell you never went to a tournament like the World Cup. Having the hotels available 1 month before the tournament starts is absolutely asinine.

Qatar's bid said the tournament will be played in June, so they lied when they made the bid. They came with some BS solutions, and how the tournament will be played in June. They knew very well that a tournament in November is going to be a disaster, that's why they lied. I am not sure why they had to lie though, when they had their bribes ready for their votes.


maybe if you keep pretending it's been a disaster tournament it'll be true


maybe you shouldn't speak about things you don't know, like attending events like this, and why a World Cup shouldn't be held in November.
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Post#465 » by clyde21 » Mon Dec 5, 2022 6:04 am

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clyde21 wrote:
Mamba81p wrote:
I can tell you never went to a tournament like the World Cup. Having the hotels available 1 month before the tournament starts is absolutely asinine.

Qatar's bid said the tournament will be played in June, so they lied when they made the bid. They came with some BS solutions, and how the tournament will be played in June. They knew very well that a tournament in November is going to be a disaster, that's why they lied. I am not sure why they had to lie though, when they had their bribes ready for their votes.


maybe if you keep pretending it's been a disaster tournament it'll be true


maybe you shouldn't speak about things you don't know, like attending events like this, and why a World Cup shouldn't be held in November.


really? cuz it's being held in Nov as we speak and it's been awesome.
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Post#466 » by Mamba81p » Mon Dec 5, 2022 6:06 am

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Mamba81p wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
maybe if you keep pretending it's been a disaster tournament it'll be true


maybe you shouldn't speak about things you don't know, like attending events like this, and why a World Cup shouldn't be held in November.


really? cuz it's being held in Nov as we speak and it's been awesome.


you and others like you seem to be the only ones thinking that it is awesome. And you love avoiding the reasons why it is not awesome
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Post#467 » by clyde21 » Mon Dec 5, 2022 6:12 am

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Mamba81p wrote:
maybe you shouldn't speak about things you don't know, like attending events like this, and why a World Cup shouldn't be held in November.


really? cuz it's being held in Nov as we speak and it's been awesome.


you and others like you seem to be the only ones thinking that it is awesome. And you love avoiding the reasons why it is not awesome


you haven't given a single valid reason why it hasn't been a great tournament.

injuries? The Athletic already dispelled that BS claim.


It produced some interesting results — though no concrete answer. As of last weekend, 39 Premier League players were carrying injuries which would keep them out for a week or more.

Looking at end-of-season data for the previous five seasons (though filtering out the COVID-19 affected 2019-20 season), that number sits dead in the middle.

Ahead of the 2018 World Cup, 35 Premier League players would have been a doubt for the tournament (presuming all their nations had qualified), while 2018-19, 2020-21, and 2021-22 saw 36, 45, and 40 injuries respectively. Dinnery believes that the number for 2020-21 is likely to be high due to the short pre-season after the Premier League’s Project Restart, when the previous season ended in August.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/theathletic.com/3774705/2022/11/09/world-cup-injuries-crisis-fact-fiction/%3famp=1

other than the obvious xenophobia as to why it's been a 'disaster', still waiting for a valid reason.
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Post#468 » by Mamba81p » Mon Dec 5, 2022 6:15 am

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Mamba81p wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
really? cuz it's being held in Nov as we speak and it's been awesome.


you and others like you seem to be the only ones thinking that it is awesome. And you love avoiding the reasons why it is not awesome


you haven't given a single valid reason why it hasn't been a great tournament.

injuries? The Athletic already dispelled that BS claim.


It produced some interesting results — though no concrete answer. As of last weekend, 39 Premier League players were carrying injuries which would keep them out for a week or more.

Looking at end-of-season data for the previous five seasons (though filtering out the COVID-19 affected 2019-20 season), that number sits dead in the middle.

Ahead of the 2018 World Cup, 35 Premier League players would have been a doubt for the tournament (presuming all their nations had qualified), while 2018-19, 2020-21, and 2021-22 saw 36, 45, and 40 injuries respectively. Dinnery believes that the number for 2020-21 is likely to be high due to the short pre-season after the Premier League’s Project Restart, when the previous season ended in August.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/theathletic.com/3774705/2022/11/09/world-cup-injuries-crisis-fact-fiction/%3famp=1

other than the obvious xenophobia as to why it's been a 'disaster', still waiting for a valid reason.


Mane and Benzema would be playing in this tournament if the tournament had a 3 week break as a pre-season. that is a fact.

Oh and the quality on the pitch is pretty bad, because of the lack of pre-season.

Edit: And as I said before, it was a disaster for the fans that couldn't attend the tournament because of the hotel issues, but you somehow fail to see that was an issue. I wonder why.
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Post#469 » by Evenacus » Mon Dec 5, 2022 6:17 am

It wasn't the first "bought" WC and it won't be the last so there is that. I also believe it was a mistake to hold it in November instead of during summer, but due to hazardous climate conditions this was the only option for players safety. We'll see just how big of an issue overloading the players schedule will be when the players start falling apart in January. Some have been injured even before. It is obvious there aren't as many fans as there usually are on this WC and that is due to non footballing reasons and it being out of holiday season. Football wise it is really good imho.
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Post#470 » by clyde21 » Mon Dec 5, 2022 6:21 am

Mamba81p wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
Mamba81p wrote:
you and others like you seem to be the only ones thinking that it is awesome. And you love avoiding the reasons why it is not awesome


you haven't given a single valid reason why it hasn't been a great tournament.

injuries? The Athletic already dispelled that BS claim.


It produced some interesting results — though no concrete answer. As of last weekend, 39 Premier League players were carrying injuries which would keep them out for a week or more.

Looking at end-of-season data for the previous five seasons (though filtering out the COVID-19 affected 2019-20 season), that number sits dead in the middle.

Ahead of the 2018 World Cup, 35 Premier League players would have been a doubt for the tournament (presuming all their nations had qualified), while 2018-19, 2020-21, and 2021-22 saw 36, 45, and 40 injuries respectively. Dinnery believes that the number for 2020-21 is likely to be high due to the short pre-season after the Premier League’s Project Restart, when the previous season ended in August.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/theathletic.com/3774705/2022/11/09/world-cup-injuries-crisis-fact-fiction/%3famp=1

other than the obvious xenophobia as to why it's been a 'disaster', still waiting for a valid reason.


Mane and Benzema would be playing in this tournament if the tournament had a 3 week break as a pre-season. that is a fact.

Oh and the quality on the pitch is pretty bad, because of the lack of pre-season.


i think the quality of the product has been great and we just witnessed one of the best group stages ever.

sounds like you were just looking for reasons to dub this tournament a disaster. sorry that didn't turn into reality for you my guy.
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Post#471 » by Mamba81p » Mon Dec 5, 2022 6:22 am

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sjballer03 wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
oh yea, western media foaming at the mouth about hotel rooms that were all made readily available before the tournament started, not a single person that wanted a hotel room in Qatar didn't get one, so I'm not sure what you or Bloomberg's problem with 'hotel rooms' is. :lol:

as for the start being in November, that was 100% for the safety of players who would've been playing in the middle of 120 degree heat if the tournament started in June/July like it usually is. so unless you wanted the players dying of heat stroke, pretty sure that was the right decision.

by all accounts from people on the ground it's been an incredibly well run tournament and one of the safest, but of course that's not gonna stop the disgusting xenophobia and racism from western outlets that wanted the WC to fail so badly to seep thru.


I gotta hand it to you. You really think you're running on some sort of platform aren't you? If only you channeled all this energy in real life instead of on realgm. My guess is you don't do jack **** about it.


about what? :lol:


Instead of using the energy here, maybe use it in real life, so you can attend a World Cup, or other final tournament, so you can actually know what you are talking about next time. Or even better, just to enjoy the tournament.
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Post#472 » by Mamba81p » Mon Dec 5, 2022 6:24 am

clyde21 wrote:
Mamba81p wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
you haven't given a single valid reason why it hasn't been a great tournament.

injuries? The Athletic already dispelled that BS claim.




https://www.google.com/amp/s/theathletic.com/3774705/2022/11/09/world-cup-injuries-crisis-fact-fiction/%3famp=1

other than the obvious xenophobia as to why it's been a 'disaster', still waiting for a valid reason.


Mane and Benzema would be playing in this tournament if the tournament had a 3 week break as a pre-season. that is a fact.

Oh and the quality on the pitch is pretty bad, because of the lack of pre-season.


i think the quality of the product has been great and we just witnessed one of the best group stages ever.

sounds like you were just looking for reasons to dub this tournament a disaster. sorry that didn't turn into reality for you my guy.


group stages are not the reason why a tournament is great or not. Is this your first world cup?.
And the group stage had drama, but that doesn't mean the quality of the football didn't suck. You can have drama in a 3rd tier tournament too.
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Post#473 » by clyde21 » Mon Dec 5, 2022 6:25 am

Mamba81p wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
sjballer03 wrote:
I gotta hand it to you. You really think you're running on some sort of platform aren't you? If only you channeled all this energy in real life instead of on realgm. My guess is you don't do jack **** about it.


about what? :lol:


Instead of using the energy here, maybe use it in real life, so you can attend a World Cup, or other final tournament, so you can actually know what you are talking about next time. Or even better, just to enjoy the tournament.


im doing quite well in real life thank you both for your concern :lol:
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Post#474 » by Nate505 » Mon Dec 5, 2022 6:27 am

Evenacus wrote:It wasn't the first "bought" WC and it won't be the last so there is that. I also believe it was a mistake to hold it in November instead of during summer, but due to hazardous climate conditions this was the only option for players safety.

For sure, yet it's not like the weather in Qatar in June was some unknown quantity.

If you're going to have a tournament take place in that month, why award it to a country where it's unplayable that month? It would be like the NHL wanting to host an outdoor game in a Florida in May. Except that's probably way more feasible.
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Post#475 » by clyde21 » Mon Dec 5, 2022 6:27 am

Mamba81p wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
Mamba81p wrote:
Mane and Benzema would be playing in this tournament if the tournament had a 3 week break as a pre-season. that is a fact.

Oh and the quality on the pitch is pretty bad, because of the lack of pre-season.


i think the quality of the product has been great and we just witnessed one of the best group stages ever.

sounds like you were just looking for reasons to dub this tournament a disaster. sorry that didn't turn into reality for you my guy.


group stages are not the reason why a tournament is great or not. Is this your first world cup?.
And the group stage had drama, but that doesn't mean the quality of the football didn't suck. You can have drama in a 3rd tier tournament too.


if you think the quality of football has been bad that's your opinion, I think many including myself would disagree with that.
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Post#476 » by Evenacus » Mon Dec 5, 2022 6:30 am

Nate505 wrote:
Evenacus wrote:It wasn't the first "bought" WC and it won't be the last so there is that. I also believe it was a mistake to hold it in November instead of during summer, but due to hazardous climate conditions this was the only option for players safety.

For sure, yet it's not like the weather in Qatar in June was some unknown quantity.

If you're going to have a tournament take place in that month, why award it to a country where it's unplayable that month? It would be about as smart as the NHL wanting to host an outdoor game in a Florida in May.


Easy answer, money and greed and no regard for player safety whatsoever.
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Post#477 » by Mamba81p » Mon Dec 5, 2022 6:35 am


Actual players that know what they are talking about
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Post#478 » by clyde21 » Mon Dec 5, 2022 6:38 am

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Actual players that know what they are talking about


stop with the injuries crap, it's just flat out untrue. already linked you to the data.

again, it sounds like you wanted this WC to fail, and now you must think it's failed to validate your preconceived idea.
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Post#479 » by Mamba81p » Mon Dec 5, 2022 6:41 am

clyde21 wrote:
Mamba81p wrote:
Actual players that know what they are talking about


stop with the injuries crap, it's just flat out untrue. already linked you to the data.

again, it sounds like you wanted this WC to fail, and now you must think it's failed to validate your preconceived idea.


It's fact, not crap. You seem to ignore the obvious: Mane, Benzema, Pogba and (I think) Varane would play in this world cup with a 3 week preseason.
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Post#480 » by clyde21 » Mon Dec 5, 2022 6:43 am

Mamba81p wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
Mamba81p wrote:
Actual players that know what they are talking about


stop with the injuries crap, it's just flat out untrue. already linked you to the data.

again, it sounds like you wanted this WC to fail, and now you must think it's failed to validate your preconceived idea.


It's fact, not crap. You seem to ignore the obvious: Mane, Benzema, Pogba and (I think) Varane would play in this world cup with a 3 week preseason.


and, even with those guys missing, it's still not an outlier in terms of injuries for a WC. that's the fact.

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