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dagger · Post #1981 » by **dagger** » Mon Dec 5, 2022 7:51 pm

dagger wrote:Trea Turner to Phillies for 11 years, $300m

No opt out and full no-trade.

Brinbe · Post #1982 » by **Brinbe** » Mon Dec 5, 2022 8:02 pm

phils owner knows that contract will not age well but he's in it to win it now. can't hate. but funny coming off how mlb owners complained before the CBA and then they go crazy spending in the off-season.

The Jays will wait the market out and spend in the 2nd/3rd tier of guys that get overlooked.

Post #1983 » by **Cyrus** » Mon Dec 5, 2022 8:17 pm

Brinbe wrote:mets get verlander. there's one option gone

I don't think he was ever was realistic option, no matter how often Shi David was beating that drum. We would have had to outbid everyone, so probably 45 mill, and that contract would have put us in the lux tax area, so we would have had to shed from major league roster.

Don't think it was ever realistic, unless we were trading Berrios for pennies on the dollar.

polo007 · Post #1984 » by **polo007** » Mon Dec 5, 2022 8:33 pm

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Post #1985 » by **Schad** » Mon Dec 5, 2022 10:21 pm

lolololololol remember when we had a lockout because teams were crying poor?

11 years, $300m is utterly demented. Turner is a very good player, but that contract will age awfully, as will many of the Phillies' deals. They owe $140m to six players for 2024, and that doesn't include Aaron Nola or Rhys Hoskins, both of whom will be free agents. Dave Dombrowski is going to do what Dave Dombrowski does, I guess.

polo007 · Post #1986 » by **polo007** » Mon Dec 5, 2022 10:50 pm

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SharoneWright · Post #1987 » by **SharoneWright** » Mon Dec 5, 2022 11:36 pm

Is Turner worth $300 million? No. 1000 times no. :noway:

Maybe the Phils are happy because the AAV is under 30 million? Lol! That 11th year saves us! :-?

polo007 · Post #1988 » by **polo007** » Tue Dec 6, 2022 7:47 am

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polo007 · Post #1990 » by **polo007** » Tue Dec 6, 2022 7:49 am

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polo007 · Post #1991 » by **polo007** » Tue Dec 6, 2022 7:54 am

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polo007 · Post #1993 » by **polo007** » Tue Dec 6, 2022 6:21 pm

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Post #1994 » by **Schad** » Tue Dec 6, 2022 7:27 pm

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Imagine asking for a billion dollars to build the smallest stadium in the majors (by far) because you tacitly admit that no one really wants to watch your games.

polo007 · Post #1995 » by **polo007** » Tue Dec 6, 2022 10:02 pm

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JTT · Post #1996 » by **JTT** » Tue Dec 6, 2022 11:16 pm

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Imagine asking for a billion dollars to build the smallest stadium in the majors (by far) because you tacitly admit that no one really wants to watch your games.

oh, people want to watch them. They'd really just rather not have to need a sleeping bag, rowboat and a compass to get to the ballpark.

Post #1997 » by **Schad** » Tue Dec 6, 2022 11:36 pm

Study has demonstrated exactly what most of us thought: there were multiple types of ball in use by MLB, with vastly different properties:

https://www.insider.com/mlb-used-two-balls-again-this-year-and-evidence-points-to-a-third-2022-12

Weirder, though, is that there was a third group (not juiced, not dead), and most of the baseballs with ideal properties showed up in Yankees games, playoff games and on commemorative balls.

I'm not going to leap to causality there, for the simple reason that MLB struggles to even accomplish basic coordination to keep a multibillion dollar industry running, never mind a giant conspiracy to make the newly-rechristened Arson Judge hit dingers. More likely, variation occurred (as they article suggests) by the time of production for the balls, and MLB was so lazy and unconcerned about consistency that they just shipped balls in completed batches wherever they were needed.

More, though, it's that MLB keeps telling obvious lies. Obvious enough that I suspect the intent is to cover their own incompetence rather than malice, because mixing in juiced 2021 balls with dead 2022 balls is the sort of thing I can see baseball doing for a variety of profoundly stupid Manfredian reasons (too cheap to make a full year's worth, had production issues during COVID that meant they couldn't get a full year's worth made in time, that sort of thing). The first rule of giant conspiracies is to have a good lie prepared, and MLB couldn't bluff a toddler.

Same with the commemorative balls: nothing would be more MLB than to prioritize making those in a single batch, asking that something be done to them that makes them look nicer than the average ball, completely disregarding that it might result in them having different properties that would affect competition. If they wanted Judge to hit more dingers, they could have sent the Yankees the juiced 2021 balls they were using...instead, they seem to have sent ones from the batch created for the commemorative balls, which were the median option, probably because they were shinier or something equally braindead.

rapstarter · Post #1998 » by **rapstarter** » Tue Dec 6, 2022 11:39 pm

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