Game 24 - Sixers at Rockets 8pm ET

[Sam Hinkie]

Josh Harris got duped by Colangelo and then again by Morey. He's an idiot.

Also by Hinkie and Ben Simmons. Too big of a mess to clean up.

Hinkie built such a good foundation that they were given six offseasons to actively ruin our chances before it became too much.

[Sam Hinkie]

They're pot committed at this point and Harris will absolutely sign off on trading more even picks for a Rocket or former Rocket at the deadline.

We're basically screwed unless Maxey takes a legit superstar leap.

Sadly I think Maxey has to be used to trade for a win now player.

Stretch Target: Durant
Realistic Target: Butler

Both of their availability depends on how their teams do over the next few months.

This + replacing Doc Rivers with D'Antoni are needed. Our offense is stale. We need to be elite to have any chance.

Also, Tobias Harris absolutely has to be traded for a better fit.

[FireMorey]

Morey bashing aside, for all the Debbie Downers, the Sixers will be there in the end like they always are. If Embiid is healthy they'll be a threat to get to the Finals. I think the team is kinda still hungover from how last season ended, but in the new year they'll ramp it up.

[Sam Hinkie]

Morey bashing aside, for all the Debbie Downers, the Sixers will be there in the end like they always are. If Embiid is healthy they'll be a threat to get to the Finals. I think the team is kinda still hungover from how last season ended, but in the new year they'll ramp it up.

I agree with this but I don't think they have a serious chance at the finals without a favorable draw and/or an injury to the Celtics or Bucks. They absolutely need to at least trade Tobias to have a chance.

[FireMorey]

But trading Tobias is one side of the equation. It depends on what you get for him. If you get a bad player for him, that doesn't make them a better team.

[Mik317]

team trades Maxey and I am out for my own health if nothing else lol.

It would be the final short sighted move before the inevitable teardown.

Not even saying Maxey is a future super star either. He simply is the last thing I can at least hope/lie to myself about lol. Only player on the team that still plays with joy and constantly has improved. And you just know whoever we trade him for will get injured or forget how to breathe as soon as he arrives.

The time for quick fixes are over as well. can't tank as we don't own our pick which makes trading Biid for a package not ideal IMO. Firing Doc would be fun but idk if Pop could make this roster mesh. Trading Tobias is a pipe dream this season IMO and honestly don't have any faith that it wouldn't be for Eric Gordon or some other washed former rocket. we are ****. And out of moves that won't kill us in a season. The Harden trade itself...gave up too many picks because who cares, Harden is just gonna carry right? Keep saying it stacking all stars is great when you have a development staff and culture in place..we haven't had that since the 80's lol.

i am so butt mad

[Negrodamus]

team trades Maxey and I am out for my own health if nothing else lol.

It would be the final short sighted move before the inevitable teardown.

Not even saying Maxey is a future super star either. He simply is the last thing I can at least hope/lie to myself about lol. Only player on the team that still plays with joy and constantly has improved. And you just know whoever we trade him for will get injured or forget how to breathe as soon as he arrives.

The time for quick fixes are over as well. can't tank as we don't own our pick which makes trading Biid for a package not ideal IMO. Firing Doc would be fun but idk if Pop could make this roster mesh. Trading Tobias is a pipe dream this season IMO and honestly don't have any faith that it wouldn't be for Eric Gordon or some other washed former rocket. we are ****. And out of moves that won't kill us in a season. The Harden trade itself...gave up too many picks because who cares, Harden is just gonna carry right? Keep saying it stacking all stars is great when you have a development staff and culture in place..we haven't had that since the 80's lol.

i am so butt mad

Maxey and a 2030 top two protected first for Eric Gordon... the final vestige of a bygone Houston era.

[Embiid P]

Don't get me wrong, our team has some serious issues that need to be fixed, but losing to the Rockets isn't the season ender that everyone here suggests. They just beat the Suns in Phoenix a few days ago. I wouldn't be surprised if they started going on a run as they get more comfortable with each other and their roles. They are insanely talented.

True. Unlike the Sixers during the Process era where the only star player we landed was Embiid, the Rockets have made the most of their high draft picks. They ended up fleecing the Nets in the Harden trade when at the time, everyone thought they were the ones who got fleeced.

[Jailblazers7]

Morey bashing aside, for all the Debbie Downers, the Sixers will be there in the end like they always are. If Embiid is healthy they'll be a threat to get to the Finals. I think the team is kinda still hungover from how last season ended, but in the new year they'll ramp it up.

Is that a promise or a threat? Lol

We’re all being dramatic but we’re pretty clearly a second round exit team again. Which isn’t the worst thing in the world but it gets frustrating hitting the same ceiling over and over.

I’m sure I’ll be deluded again come playoff time but a healthy Embiid, a full potential Harden, and a smart coach is something I’ll have to see before I believe.

[Jailblazers7]

Trading Maxey just to get an older version of Jimmy back does feels like the most Sixers outcome possible.

[Embiid P]

But trading Tobias is one side of the equation. It depends on what you get for him. If you get a bad player for him, that doesn't make them a better team.

Ideally, they would receive multiple players for Tobias given his salary. They don't need another star, just a couple of role players who fill what the current team sorely lacks. A bigger defensive minded PF who can ideally knock down an occasional open 3. Another wing would be nice too.

Orlando would be a good trade partner for Tobias given their surplus of lengthy players. They're not going to be able to keep all of their young talent long-term. Tobias would allow them to make a big splash in free agency during the summer of 2024 when his deal expires.

[the_process]

Don't get me wrong, our team has some serious issues that need to be fixed, but losing to the Rockets isn't the season ender that everyone here suggests. They just beat the Suns in Phoenix a few days ago. I wouldn't be surprised if they started going on a run as they get more comfortable with each other and their roles. They are insanely talented.

I don't see the Sixers as that talented. Embiid puts up MVP caliber stats, but will not play optimally. That's partially coaching, but I'd argue mostly him.

Harden is mostly washed, and still won't play defense.

Maxey is an awesome spark plug. Can he be more is yet to be determined.

Everyone else on the roster is whatever. If Milton and Niang remain playable they are slightly deeper, but compared to past years where they only had one or two playable bench pieces that's not saying a lot.

[FireMorey]

But trading Tobias is one side of the equation. It depends on what you get for him. If you get a bad player for him, that doesn't make them a better team.

Ideally, they would receive multiple players for Tobias given his salary. They don't need another star, just a couple of role players who fill what the current team sorely lacks. A bigger defensive minded PF who can ideally knock down an occasional open 3. Another wing would be nice too.

Orlando would be a good trade partner for Tobias given their surplus of lengthy players. They're not going to be able to keep all of their young talent long-term. Tobias would allow them to make a big splash in free agency during the summer of 2024 when his deal expires.

I don't think they're going to be able to move him until the summer or next season's deadline. Zero teams wanted his contract just a few months ago, if they didn't want him in July, they aren't going to want him in January.

[Bum Adebayo]

Don't get me wrong, our team has some serious issues that need to be fixed, but losing to the Rockets isn't the season ender that everyone here suggests. They just beat the Suns in Phoenix a few days ago. I wouldn't be surprised if they started going on a run as they get more comfortable with each other and their roles. They are insanely talented.

I don't see the Sixers as that talented. Embiid puts up MVP caliber stats, but will not play optimally.

He plays very optimally, how about Harden going 4/19 from the floor, or what the rest of the team did, is that what you mean by optimal?

[Bum Adebayo]

The game is all about scoring the ball efficiently, you win if you score more than your opponent. Very few can match or exceed Embiid at this, so the blame has to go to the rest of the team.

[Negrodamus]

Don't get me wrong, our team has some serious issues that need to be fixed, but losing to the Rockets isn't the season ender that everyone here suggests. They just beat the Suns in Phoenix a few days ago. I wouldn't be surprised if they started going on a run as they get more comfortable with each other and their roles. They are insanely talented.

I don't see the Sixers as that talented. Embiid puts up MVP caliber stats, but will not play optimally. That's partially coaching, but I'd argue mostly him.

Harden is mostly washed, and still won't play defense.

Maxey is an awesome spark plug. Can he be more is yet to be determined.

Everyone else on the roster is whatever. If Milton and Niang remain playable they are slightly deeper, but compared to past years where they only had one or two playable bench pieces that's not saying a lot.

When I say "they are insanely talented", I am referring to the Rockets. I think they'll close out the year playing quite well.

[Jailblazers7]

Interesting note from Zach Lowe’s podcast. Rockets were getting clowned and taunted by Trae/Dejounte until Jabari Smith nearly started a fight by telling Murray to shut the f*ck up. Rockets came back and won that game.

Since that moment, Rockets are 4-3 compared to 3-14 before that incident. Could be a really interesting inflection point in their season and important leadership moment for Jabari.

[Negrodamus]

Interesting note from Zach Lowe’s podcast. Rockets were getting clowned and taunted by Trae/Dejounte until Jabari Smith nearly started a fight by telling Murray to shut the f*ck up. Rockets came back and won that game.

Since that moment, Rockets are 4-3 compared to 3-14 before that incident. Could be a really interesting inflection point in their season and important leadership moment for Jabari.

It's pretty brutal having to play against a team with multiple very switchable defenders. On top of that, they are all capable shooters.

[Embiid P]

But trading Tobias is one side of the equation. It depends on what you get for him. If you get a bad player for him, that doesn't make them a better team.

Ideally, they would receive multiple players for Tobias given his salary. They don't need another star, just a couple of role players who fill what the current team sorely lacks. A bigger defensive minded PF who can ideally knock down an occasional open 3. Another wing would be nice too.

Orlando would be a good trade partner for Tobias given their surplus of lengthy players. They're not going to be able to keep all of their young talent long-term. Tobias would allow them to make a big splash in free agency during the summer of 2024 when his deal expires.

I don't think they're going to be able to move him until the summer or next season's deadline. Zero teams wanted his contract just a few months ago, if they didn't want him in July, they aren't going to want him in January.

They could trade him now or at some point before the deadline if they were willing to take back players with contracts that end at the same time or after Tobias's. They could also include a young player like Springer who's not playing for us anyway as incentive for a team to take him off our hands.

If they wait until the summer or the 2024 deadline to move Tobias, they've basically decided that they're willing to punt a chance at a title this season which I don't think would sit too well with Embiid and Harden.

[Iverson Armband]

Morey bashing aside, for all the Debbie Downers, the Sixers will be there in the end like they always are. If Embiid is healthy they'll be a threat to get to the Finals. I think the team is kinda still hungover from how last season ended, but in the new year they'll ramp it up.

lmao, I guess this is what you resort to after that Celtics are overrated and would’ve lost to the Sixers last year take failed miserably.