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Re: PG: Julius "Steph Curry" Randle carries us once again 

Post#181 » by bearadonisdna » Thu Dec 8, 2022 2:27 pm

KnixtapeH20 wrote:
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knicksstuff wrote:Does Thibs get any credit for playing all the young kids?


Fair and smart fans will give him some credit. The trolls and idiots will never.

LOL bc it's that black n white my ****? Be real

Credit for not playing Fournier after starting him for the season then bringing him off the bench? He committed to Fournier before Grimes got hurt when camp started. Oh yea let's make a statue for the guy

Credit for all of a sudden not playing a washed Rose after he been playing?

TF should anyone give him any credit? He was forced to not look like a dumbass n yet he still has


Thibs out there embarrassing the media narrative ,
Team quit on him
Blaming him while having a below mid roster
Winning games with a below mid roster
You hate the coach but love his development on below mid players .
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Re: PG: Julius "Steph Curry" Randle carries us once again 

Post#182 » by Deeeez Knicks » Thu Dec 8, 2022 2:28 pm

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McBride did have 6 assists.


He can't get into the paint.

Watching the lineup of:

McBride
IQ
RJ
Obi
Shart

made me want to vomit.

Not one guy all that good at breaking down the defense, getting into the paint, no less making a contested layup.

Knicks were fortunate to playing Trae & Capella & The Atlanta G-League Affiliate Experience.

Otherwise, when moron Thibs went with that lineup for like 8 minutes end of 1st/into the 2nd quarter, Knicks would have been 15


That's true. And it's I trait I noticed he's had since he became a Knick. He does it when he plays for Westchester. Here's his PG interview. Tough questioning from Rebecca. :lol:

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Re: PG: Julius "Steph Curry" Randle carries us once again 

Post#183 » by bearadonisdna » Thu Dec 8, 2022 2:33 pm

It’s been a fair postgame ,
The only dude who went full Postal is Are we there yet.
But he has history of derailing , lashing out, personal attacks.
It’s probably because his late night substance abuse problem .
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Post#184 » by RHODEY » Thu Dec 8, 2022 2:40 pm

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Good. He can take McBride's backup PG minutes too


McBride did have 6 assists.


He can't get into the paint.

Watching the lineup of:

McBride
IQ
RJ
Obi
Shart

made me want to vomit.

Not one guy all that good at breaking down the defense, getting into the paint, no less making a contested layup.

He gets into his opponents space and
...disrupts. Love seeing him with Grimes on the floor....totally changes the defensive complexion of the team. So despite his current shortcomings (I think those will improve too)give me MORE of that please...
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Post#185 » by robillionaire » Thu Dec 8, 2022 2:46 pm

god shammgod wrote:
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Yeah with Obi out I think we could slot RJ into that backup PF role for 15 mins a game he is a nice fit there
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Re: PG: Julius "Steph Curry" Randle carries us once again 

Post#186 » by GONYK » Thu Dec 8, 2022 3:00 pm

Good. I've been really interested at seeing RJ more at the 4. It might be his better position with his added bulk.
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Post#187 » by DowNY » Thu Dec 8, 2022 3:06 pm

GONYK wrote:Good. I've been really interested at seeing RJ more at the 4. It might be his better position with his added bulk.

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Post#188 » by 3toheadmelo » Thu Dec 8, 2022 3:12 pm

rj at the 4 is a terrible idea. he can't even guard 3s because hes too small. putting him at the 4 is putting him in a terrible position. just roll with cam at that point
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Post#189 » by TrueWarrior » Thu Dec 8, 2022 3:13 pm

GONYK wrote:Good. I've been really interested at seeing RJ more at the 4. It might be his better position with his added bulk.


First RJ was a SG, then SF, now a PF. He’ll be a backup center next season at this rate lol. Maybe hes just slow and not good. Needs to lose weight if anything, because he’ll just be undersized at the 4 while not even being any faster than his opponents.

But yeah Obi has done nothing at the 4 that RJ and Cam cant do. He’s only shooting threes on offense now and playing mediocre defense. Dude needs a wakeup call. No idea why hes scared of the paint now, when that was his thing before. Hopefully hes not injured too bad but Obi has been just as big a letdown as RJ this season after his hot start.
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Post#190 » by Ghetto Gospel » Thu Dec 8, 2022 3:16 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:rj at the 4 is a terrible idea. he can't even guard 3s because hes too small. putting him at the 4 is putting him in a terrible position. just roll with cam at that point


yeah well putting him at the 2 or 3 in the starting lineup is putting him in a terrible position as well. putting him at the 4 can't get any worse

he's best suited as a g-leaguer at this point
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Post#191 » by 3toheadmelo » Thu Dec 8, 2022 3:19 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:rj at the 4 is a terrible idea. he can't even guard 3s because hes too small. putting him at the 4 is putting him in a terrible position. just roll with cam at that point


yeah well putting him at the 2 or 3 in the starting lineup is putting him in a terrible position as well. putting him at the 4 can't get any worse

he's best suited as a g-leaguer at this point

he's pretty much a massive liability and can't guard any position now. it's sad
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Post#192 » by duetta » Thu Dec 8, 2022 3:21 pm

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thebuzzardman wrote:I liked Ward but lets not pretend he wasn't one of the limiting factors (among several) that kept Ewing from a ring


John Starks going 2-18 in Game 7 was the limiting factor that kept Ewing from getting a ring, not to mention Scotty Sterling's idiot trades that sent the eventual rights to Scotty Pippin to Chicago (via Seattle) for Gerald Henderson and Juwann Oldham.


That's not fair. There wouldn't have been a Game 7 if it wasn't for Starks. And Ewing did not have a good series against Hakeem in that Finals. The biggest reason Ewing never got a ring imo was because of Jordan's greatness, Ernie Grunfeld's inability to get that second star and late career injuries.


If Ewing had played with Pippin, I guarantee you that he would have several rings.

Again, Pippin was drafted with the Knicks pick and then traded for a pick we controlled 8 months earlier.

Every time I read a post advocating for one of these psychotic trades for a non-franchise talent, I think back to the Pippin fiasco.
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Post#193 » by moocow007 » Thu Dec 8, 2022 3:22 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:rj at the 4 is a terrible idea. he can't even guard 3s because hes too small. putting him at the 4 is putting him in a terrible position. just roll with cam at that point


Problem is that he’s not fast enough to guard 3s and definitely not 2s.
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Post#194 » by Deeeez Knicks » Thu Dec 8, 2022 3:23 pm

In general, we need more small ball lineups so I like it. Few teams play big especially off the bench. Going with more wing heavy lineups should in theory help us defend the perimeter and rotate along the 3 point line better. Would like to see some RJ/Cam at the 4/3.

But still need RJ to play much much better no matter what position.
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Re: PG: Julius "Steph Curry" Randle carries us once again 

Post#195 » by Ghetto Gospel » Thu Dec 8, 2022 3:23 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
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3toheadmelo wrote:rj at the 4 is a terrible idea. he can't even guard 3s because hes too small. putting him at the 4 is putting him in a terrible position. just roll with cam at that point


yeah well putting him at the 2 or 3 in the starting lineup is putting him in a terrible position as well. putting him at the 4 can't get any worse

he's best suited as a g-leaguer at this point

he's pretty much a massive liability and can't guard any position now. it's sad


yeah, actually maybe he can be a towel waver for us. i heard he's a great guy, i'm sure he can wave towels like theo pinson
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Post#196 » by thebuzzardman » Thu Dec 8, 2022 3:27 pm

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thebuzzardman wrote:I liked Ward but lets not pretend he wasn't one of the limiting factors (among several) that kept Ewing from a ring


John Starks going 2-18 in Game 7 was the limiting factor that kept Ewing from getting a ring, not to mention Scotty Sterling's idiot trades that sent the eventual rights to Scotty Pippin to Chicago (via Seattle) for Gerald Henderson and Juwann Oldham.


That was the other reason.

Basically, the Knicks never had a strong 2nd banana next to Ewing, so they had to over rely on a player the level of Starks, who might have been better suited as a 3rd option.

And Ward was a spot up 3&D PG, so again, that was like 1/2 a level of abilities at a position that hurt Ewings chances.

Ward is fine if there's a more dominant PF or wing on that team.
Like Armstrong or Paxton or Kerr were fine as PG's when Jordan (and Pippen) are the wings. An extreme example, but you get the point.

I loved those teams, there were a number of very good players who all played hard, but I thought it's been an accepted fact for a while the Knicks FO never really built the best team they could have around Ewing, over the course of 10 years.
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Post#197 » by thebuzzardman » Thu Dec 8, 2022 3:28 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:rj at the 4 is a terrible idea. he can't even guard 3s because hes too small. putting him at the 4 is putting him in a terrible position. just roll with cam at that point


Problem is that he’s not fast enough to guard 3s and definitely not 2s.


Didn't LaVert have some success playing small ball 4? If he did, shouldn't RJ? At least in limited minutes?
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Post#198 » by FrozenEnvelope » Thu Dec 8, 2022 3:28 pm

duetta wrote:
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John Starks going 2-18 in Game 7 was the limiting factor that kept Ewing from getting a ring, not to mention Scotty Sterling's idiot trades that sent the eventual rights to Scotty Pippin to Chicago (via Seattle) for Gerald Henderson and Juwann Oldham.


That's not fair. There wouldn't have been a Game 7 if it wasn't for Starks. And Ewing did not have a good series against Hakeem in that Finals. The biggest reason Ewing never got a ring imo was because of Jordan's greatness, Ernie Grunfeld's inability to get that second star and late career injuries.


If Ewing had played with Pippin, I guarantee you that he would have several rings.

Again, Pippin was drafted with the Knicks pick and then traded for a pick we controlled 8 months earlier.

Every time I read a post advocating for one of these psychotic trades for a non-franchise talent, I think back to the Pippin fiasco.


It was a lot harder to trade for stars back in those days and to even know about rumors as fans. We relied on newspapers and sports radio. :lol: But if I remember correctly, stars like Barkley, Dominique Wilkins, Isiah Thomas, Chris Mullins and Magic were rumored at some point. Of course nothing ever happened. Best Grunfeld did was Doc Rivers, Charles Smith and signing Houston and trading for Spree late in Ewing's career after the injuries.
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Post#199 » by 3toheadmelo » Thu Dec 8, 2022 3:30 pm

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yeah well putting him at the 2 or 3 in the starting lineup is putting him in a terrible position as well. putting him at the 4 can't get any worse

he's best suited as a g-leaguer at this point

he's pretty much a massive liability and can't guard any position now. it's sad


yeah, actually maybe he can be a towel waver for us. i heard he's a great guy, i'm sure he can wave towels like theo pinson

i'd even look into this svi mushdasuda guy over rj at this point :lol:
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Post#200 » by 3toheadmelo » Thu Dec 8, 2022 3:30 pm

moocow007 wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:rj at the 4 is a terrible idea. he can't even guard 3s because hes too small. putting him at the 4 is putting him in a terrible position. just roll with cam at that point


Problem is that he’s not fast enough to guard 3s and definitely not 2s.

yea we're fked no matter what we do
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