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That was such a rollercoaster. I didn't expect us to win but man was it close in the end. I'm disappointed but also proud.
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me next week wrote:Mickey Mouse ring by Argentina, who beat zero world champions on their way to the finals, and...
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Jaivl wrote:me next week wrote:Mickey Mouse ring by Argentina, who beat zero world champions on their way to the finals, and...
Why do you hate Messi anyway?
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HeartBreakKid wrote:Jaivl wrote:me next week wrote:Mickey Mouse ring by Argentina, who beat zero world champions on their way to the finals, and...
Why do you hate Messi anyway?
??? I don't. I kinda do hate most of the rest of the team though, especially Dibu.
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Jaivl wrote:HeartBreakKid wrote:Jaivl wrote:
Why do you hate Messi anyway?
??? I don't. I kinda do hate most of the rest of the team though, especially Dibu.
Are you rooting against them because it's a Spanish speaking thing?
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HeartBreakKid wrote:Jaivl wrote:HeartBreakKid wrote:
Why do you hate Messi anyway?
??? I don't. I kinda do hate most of the rest of the team though, especially Dibu.
Are you rooting against them because it's a Spanish speaking thing?
I root against them cause I have a lot of argentinian friends and they can be extremely unsufferable re/ football lol, don't want to go through that.
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Would absolutely dread another Croatia v France final. And while Croatia v Morocco would be cool in terms of storylines (guaranteed first-time winner, both underdog runs having taken out multiple giants), that's about it and I would be very uninterested in the football itself. So I guess anything but Croatia winning today please lol.
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Late to the penalty discussion but how I always thought of it:
The absolute last thing you can do want to do when attempting a penalty is to miss the target entirely. No matter where you shoot (bottom left, top right, top center, bottom center, etc), it has a chance at being successful if the keeper guesses incorrectly. The exception is if you miss the target entirely (i.e. what Kane did).
It's somewhat like a situation where you need to get a bucket in basketball and your team commits a turnover. That's the last thing you can do - you have to at least get a shot up and give yourself a CHANCE
It is true that shots-on-target that are near the top corners are more difficult to save. But they're also more likely to miss the target entirely. So the safe option is to aim lower.


Source: https://www.thestatszone.com/archive/statistical-insight-into-penalty-shootouts-where-to-place-your-penalty-13886
Yeah, if you can accurately get it into the top of the net you're probably scoring - but that's far from a guarantee and those shots are the least likely to be on target. Also, notice how the middle left / middle right regions are also worse than bottom left / bottom right.
There's also the pressure aspect, of course. No one wants to be remembered for decades as they guy that lost their country the World Cup by skying the kick. When the pressure is THAT immense on someone, they're probably gonna play it safe. And the kick is most certainly not as easy as it would be outside of a game environment - just like a clutch free throw. It's why they always say that a huge part of penalty shooting is mental.
I think this explains why it can be a bit more complicated than just wanting to aim for the top corner. If you can get it there, yes that's certainly the best strategy. But getting it there is far from a guarantee.
The absolute last thing you can do want to do when attempting a penalty is to miss the target entirely. No matter where you shoot (bottom left, top right, top center, bottom center, etc), it has a chance at being successful if the keeper guesses incorrectly. The exception is if you miss the target entirely (i.e. what Kane did).
It's somewhat like a situation where you need to get a bucket in basketball and your team commits a turnover. That's the last thing you can do - you have to at least get a shot up and give yourself a CHANCE
It is true that shots-on-target that are near the top corners are more difficult to save. But they're also more likely to miss the target entirely. So the safe option is to aim lower.


Source: https://www.thestatszone.com/archive/statistical-insight-into-penalty-shootouts-where-to-place-your-penalty-13886
Yeah, if you can accurately get it into the top of the net you're probably scoring - but that's far from a guarantee and those shots are the least likely to be on target. Also, notice how the middle left / middle right regions are also worse than bottom left / bottom right.
There's also the pressure aspect, of course. No one wants to be remembered for decades as they guy that lost their country the World Cup by skying the kick. When the pressure is THAT immense on someone, they're probably gonna play it safe. And the kick is most certainly not as easy as it would be outside of a game environment - just like a clutch free throw. It's why they always say that a huge part of penalty shooting is mental.
I think this explains why it can be a bit more complicated than just wanting to aim for the top corner. If you can get it there, yes that's certainly the best strategy. But getting it there is far from a guarantee.
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Probably more Spanish fans rooting for Croatia than actual Croatian fans right now.
Please, anything but a France vs Argentina final, that's the worst-case scenario.
Please, anything but a France vs Argentina final, that's the worst-case scenario.
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Jaivl wrote:Probably more Spanish fans rooting for Croatia than actual Croatian fans right now.
Please, anything but a France vs Argentina final, that's the worst-case scenario.
Welp...
If you're not outraged, you're not paying attention.
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Outside wrote:Jaivl wrote:Probably more Spanish fans rooting for Croatia than actual Croatian fans right now.
Please, anything but a France vs Argentina final, that's the worst-case scenario.
Welp...
Just have to close Twitter, block a bunch of friends on Whatsapp for a couple hours and root for Argentina all the way
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Jaivl wrote:Outside wrote:Jaivl wrote:Probably more Spanish fans rooting for Croatia than actual Croatian fans right now.
Please, anything but a France vs Argentina final, that's the worst-case scenario.
Welp...
Just have to close Twitter, block a bunch of friends on Whatsapp for a couple hours and root for Argentina all the way
Or hey, you can root for us to win the match for 3rd place!
(I'm actually (admittedly distantly) related to one of the guys on the team, so if you support Croatia, you're also supporting your RealGM community!)
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Bad Gatorade wrote:Jaivl wrote:Outside wrote:
Welp...
Just have to close Twitter, block a bunch of friends on Whatsapp for a couple hours and root for Argentina all the way
Or hey, you can root for us to win the match for 3rd place!
(I'm actually (admittedly distantly) related to one of the guys on the team, so if you support Croatia, you're also supporting your RealGM community!)
I've been supporting Croatia for the last few rounds to win the WC and my dad got mad because Croatia doesn't have black people. I had to explain to him how slavery and colonization works.
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Bad Gatorade wrote:Jaivl wrote:Outside wrote:
Welp...
Just have to close Twitter, block a bunch of friends on Whatsapp for a couple hours and root for Argentina all the way
Or hey, you can root for us to win the match for 3rd place!
(I'm actually (admittedly distantly) related to one of the guys on the team, so if you support Croatia, you're also supporting your RealGM community!)
I'd love to show my support (and I've been Croatia supporter throughout the whole tournament), but at the same time Morocco winning a bronze medal would be such an amazing story...
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70sFan wrote:Bad Gatorade wrote:Jaivl wrote:Just have to close Twitter, block a bunch of friends on Whatsapp for a couple hours and root for Argentina all the way
Or hey, you can root for us to win the match for 3rd place!
(I'm actually (admittedly distantly) related to one of the guys on the team, so if you support Croatia, you're also supporting your RealGM community!)
I'd love to show my support (and I've been Croatia supporter throughout the whole tournament), but at the same time Morocco winning a bronze medal would be such an amazing story...
I was so disappointed to see Morocco go out. A World Cup with them VS Argentina would have been fun, since both teams are easy to root for.
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Football is the best sport
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I think it was the best overtime I have ever watched. Remarkable effort from both teams!
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France got what they deserved by not shooting to the center against Dibu 
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Does anybody use forums similar to RealGM but for other areas of interest - music, books, movies?
I don't particularly care who the owner/CEO is, but Twitter is starting to lose it's juice for me and I really do like the non-algorithmic, more community driven setup on here, warts and all.
I don't particularly care who the owner/CEO is, but Twitter is starting to lose it's juice for me and I really do like the non-algorithmic, more community driven setup on here, warts and all.
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parsnips33 wrote:Does anybody use forums similar to RealGM but for other areas of interest - music, books, movies?
I don't particularly care who the owner/CEO is, but Twitter is starting to lose it's juice for me and I really do like the non-algorithmic, more community driven setup on here, warts and all.
You might as well just go to the Media Lounge on RealGM
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