GT: Nets @ Wizards 12/12 7pm

[ArksNetsSince99]

Cavs lost.

Were only a half game back of the Cavs now for the 3 seed. And the hardest part of our schedule is over.

Doesn’t matter , let the Knicks get excited about climbing the reg season standings , even if we are first after Christmas it’s no way we are valid contender as constructed

Within next 30 days we will find out who Marks really is

[ArksNetsSince99]

Can we safely say they are back?

To DAngelo/Atkinson team excitement? Yeah almost there

To contention? Nope not even close LOL

[NetsWorld]

Can we safely say they are back?

To DAngelo/Atkinson team excitement? Yeah almost there

To contention? Nope not even close LOL

I think so. I don’t want to get my hopes up but they are not far removed from the 2/3 seed and are playing really good basketball. This isn’t the same team that started the season. This team is starting to resemble the 20-21 Nets.

[MrDollarBills]

Can we safely say they are back?

To DAngelo/Atkinson team excitement? Yeah almost there

To contention? Nope not even close LOL

I think so. I don’t want to get my hopes up but they are not far removed from the 2/3 seed and are playing really good basketball. This isn’t the same team that started the season. This team is starting to resemble the 20-21 Nets.

Let's beat a really good team before anything else. We've won 8 out of 10 but we got beat badly by Boston and the best team we've beaten is Portland. The real test is coming soon.

[Tha King]

To DAngelo/Atkinson team excitement? Yeah almost there

To contention? Nope not even close LOL

I think so. I don’t want to get my hopes up but they are not far removed from the 2/3 seed and are playing really good basketball. This isn’t the same team that started the season. This team is starting to resemble the 20-21 Nets.

Let's beat a really good team before anything else. We've won 8 out of 10 but we got beat badly by Boston and the best team we've beaten is Portland. The real test is coming soon.

Agree. The potential is there to be an elite team just have to put it together.

[Hello Brooklyn]

Cavs lost.

Were only a half game back of the Cavs now for the 3 seed. And the hardest part of our schedule is over.

Doesn’t matter , let the Knicks get excited about climbing the reg season standings , even if we are first after Christmas it’s no way we are valid contender as constructed

Within next 30 days we will find out who Marks really is

Based on what?

We have KD/Kyrie playing at an elite level. Simmons is quickly rounding into all star form.

The main flaw is a backup Center. I don't agree at all that we can't contend.

Are we the favorites? No.

But its possible we get there.

[therealbig3]

Cavs lost.

Were only a half game back of the Cavs now for the 3 seed. And the hardest part of our schedule is over.

Doesn’t matter , let the Knicks get excited about climbing the reg season standings , even if we are first after Christmas it’s no way we are valid contender as constructed

Within next 30 days we will find out who Marks really is

Based on what?

We have KD/Kyrie playing at an elite level. Simmons is quickly rounding into all star form.

The main flaw is a backup Center. I don't agree at all that we can't contend.

Are we the favorites? No.

But its possible we get there.

LOL it's the same **** every time, we win a few games, Kyrie and KD look good for a bit, and then we delude ourselves.

This team is mediocre. Kyrie and KD will not continue to play at this level, they've never sustained it before. Either they'll fall off, or they'll get hurt. Even when healthy, they're not enough to make us contenders.

And Ben Simmons rounding into All-Star form? LMAO! He's a straight liability, especially in the playoffs. Whatever, y'all are gonna see soon enough...AGAIN.

[TheNetsFan]

To DAngelo/Atkinson team excitement? Yeah almost there

To contention? Nope not even close LOL

I think so. I don’t want to get my hopes up but they are not far removed from the 2/3 seed and are playing really good basketball. This isn’t the same team that started the season. This team is starting to resemble the 20-21 Nets.

Let's beat a really good team before anything else. We've won 8 out of 10 but we got beat badly by Boston and the best team we've beaten is Portland. The real test is coming soon.

Agreed. We haven't beaten anyone of consequence. This team is a big step below the top teams.

[GTR11]

Doesn’t matter , let the Knicks get excited about climbing the reg season standings , even if we are first after Christmas it’s no way we are valid contender as constructed

Within next 30 days we will find out who Marks really is

Based on what?

We have KD/Kyrie playing at an elite level. Simmons is quickly rounding into all star form.

The main flaw is a backup Center. I don't agree at all that we can't contend.

Are we the favorites? No.

But its possible we get there.

LOL it's the same **** every time, we win a few games, Kyrie and KD look good for a bit, and then we delude ourselves.

This team is mediocre. Kyrie and KD will not continue to play at this level, they've never sustained it before. Either they'll fall off, or they'll get hurt. Even when healthy, they're not enough to make us contenders.

And Ben Simmons rounding into All-Star form? LMAO! He's a straight liability, especially in the playoffs. Whatever, y'all are gonna see soon enough...AGAIN.

1. Name me one team that don't look mediocre right now and don't have flows?
2. Even during ATL series Ben was elite D player who could pass. HB talking about Ben being 4th wheel as a contributer who won't be asked to score. Can he do that, absolutely. Can he give us 10-14pts 8rb 8ast on this team, most definitely.

More legit question is, can JV and Kokoskov take that next step? They've been around and slowly but surly making progress. I think it's way to early to doubt their ability, need more data for it.

And yes, just like for every team out there health will be most important thing going into PO. If TJ, Ben and Nic healthy, there's not one team out there we can't take out in 7 game series. Just too much talent. I mean look:
Kyrie - Sumner
Ben - Joe
TJ - Royce
KD - Yuta
Nic

That's legit as it gets.

We do need vet stretch combo PF/C like Olynik right now to be most complete team, but I won't hold my breath there. I got reasons to doubt Marks/Tsai.

[MrDollarBills]

I think so. I don’t want to get my hopes up but they are not far removed from the 2/3 seed and are playing really good basketball. This isn’t the same team that started the season. This team is starting to resemble the 20-21 Nets.

Let's beat a really good team before anything else. We've won 8 out of 10 but we got beat badly by Boston and the best team we've beaten is Portland. The real test is coming soon.

Agreed. We haven't beaten anyone of consequence. This team is a big step below the top teams.

With our roster as is, I do think Marks has to make one more trade to get us some size to help when needed. But having Warren/Yuta/Simmons, Harris back to his old self -and- playing tough D along with KD and Kyrie buying in, this team can be a lot better than we are now if we stay healthy and Kyrie just keeps his head down and plays basketball. He looks like he's having fun out there and competing defensively. That's all I ask. We may not beat Boston or the Bucks but at least we're headed in the right direction as a team.

Also, Jacque Vaughn has been such a positive influence on this team in terms of preparation and in game management. The issue is, can he keep KD and Kyrie's heads on straight when things get tough. That's where I don't know. In the Boston game, KD devolved into selfish basketball and it cost us heavily. He has to trust his teammates in those situations to get him the ball where he can score.

[Hello Brooklyn]

Doesn’t matter , let the Knicks get excited about climbing the reg season standings , even if we are first after Christmas it’s no way we are valid contender as constructed

Within next 30 days we will find out who Marks really is

Based on what?

We have KD/Kyrie playing at an elite level. Simmons is quickly rounding into all star form.

The main flaw is a backup Center. I don't agree at all that we can't contend.

Are we the favorites? No.

But its possible we get there.

LOL it's the same **** every time, we win a few games, Kyrie and KD look good for a bit, and then we delude ourselves.

This team is mediocre. Kyrie and KD will not continue to play at this level, they've never sustained it before. Either they'll fall off, or they'll get hurt. Even when healthy, they're not enough to make us contenders.

And Ben Simmons rounding into All-Star form? LMAO! He's a straight liability, especially in the playoffs. Whatever, y'all are gonna see soon enough...AGAIN.

Ok Mr. Hopeless.

KD/Kyrie have always played at this level. Its injuries, defense and off court drama that have doomed us in seasons past.

Simmons is an elite defensive player and passer. If we have to bench him at the end of playoff games who cares?

Keep crying. I'll choose to be optimistic instead.

[ArksNetsSince99]

Let's beat a really good team before anything else. We've won 8 out of 10 but we got beat badly by Boston and the best team we've beaten is Portland. The real test is coming soon.

Agreed. We haven't beaten anyone of consequence. This team is a big step below the top teams.

With our roster as is, I do think Marks has to make one more trade to get us some size to help when needed. But having Warren/Yuta/Simmons, Harris back to his old self -and- playing tough D along with KD and Kyrie buying in, this team can be a lot better than we are now if we stay healthy and Kyrie just keeps his head down and plays basketball. He looks like he's having fun out there and competing defensively. That's all I ask. We may not beat Boston or the Bucks but at least we're headed in the right direction as a team.

Also, Jacque Vaughn has been such a positive influence on this team in terms of preparation and in game management. The issue is, can he keep KD and Kyrie's heads on straight when things get tough. That's where I don't know. In the Boston game, KD devolved into selfish basketball and it cost us heavily. He has to trust his teammates in those situations to get him the ball where he can score.

All valid points , on JVaugn alone I can see this team as second round exit instead of first round sweep

But the question is , is this change anything ? Nope , our window is closing fast , if we stay put as is we can fairly say we failed

No one wants to ask tough questions

What’s about Kyrie after this season ?
What’s about year older Durant ?

This is our last dance before mediocrity begins without prospects without picks , but it’s no big deal , we got used to it over decades

[ChuckS]

LOL it's the same **** every time, we win a few games, Kyrie and KD look good for a bit, and then we delude ourselves.

This team is mediocre. Kyrie and KD will not continue to play at this level, they've never sustained it before. Either they'll fall off, or they'll get hurt. Even when healthy, they're not enough to make us contenders.

And Ben Simmons rounding into All-Star form? LMAO! He's a straight liability, especially in the playoffs. Whatever, y'all are gonna see soon enough...AGAIN.

I disagree. I will not speak much to your opinion of Ben except to say that I personally think he has the skill set to be a major part of us being a contender. We particularly need his perimeter size and defense. I think he has been ludicrously crucified, primarily for one play in one game. But again, I haven't studied his career, so mine is just an observational opinion.

I more strongly disagree with your statements about KD and KAI. I think they have already shown that they could make us a contender, when healthy, as recently as the year before last. It's unprovable, but I think we were not only a contender, but would have won it all if Kyrie was not taken out in the Bucks' series.

More perplexing is your declaration, as if a certainty, that they have never sustained such excellence before.

KD has averaged 27.3PPG, at 49.8%, with 7.1 boards, and 4.3 assists, for 15 years and 967 games. He has the fourth highest all time per game average in league and playoff (29.41 PPG) NBA history. Kyrie has the 26th highest per game league average at 23.1 PPG, with 3.9 boards, and 5.7 assists, in 631 games in 12 years.

Who knows, at this relatively early stage, if this team will be a contender. Since the days of the peach basket contenders have had exceptional players, such as ours, on exceptional teams. We sometimes forget it is a team game. But LeBron's fortunes last year should remind us. There probably were others, particularly in the early days with fewer teams, but the only exception that leaps to my mind is Rick Barry's championship the year after Nate Thurmond retired. They obviously were still good but I thought they beat a better team on route.

[ArksNetsSince99]

Based on what?

We have KD/Kyrie playing at an elite level. Simmons is quickly rounding into all star form.

The main flaw is a backup Center. I don't agree at all that we can't contend.

Are we the favorites? No.

But its possible we get there.

LOL it's the same **** every time, we win a few games, Kyrie and KD look good for a bit, and then we delude ourselves.

This team is mediocre. Kyrie and KD will not continue to play at this level, they've never sustained it before. Either they'll fall off, or they'll get hurt. Even when healthy, they're not enough to make us contenders.

And Ben Simmons rounding into All-Star form? LMAO! He's a straight liability, especially in the playoffs. Whatever, y'all are gonna see soon enough...AGAIN.

Ok Mr. Hopeless.

KD/Kyrie have always played at this level. Its injuries, defense and off court drama that have doomed us in seasons past.

Simmons is an elite defensive player and passer. If we have to bench him at the end of playoff games who cares?

Keep crying. I'll choose to be optimistic instead.

I don’t think he is hopeless, realistic is the word rather

[TheNetsFan]

Let's beat a really good team before anything else. We've won 8 out of 10 but we got beat badly by Boston and the best team we've beaten is Portland. The real test is coming soon.

Agreed. We haven't beaten anyone of consequence. This team is a big step below the top teams.

With our roster as is, I do think Marks has to make one more trade to get us some size to help when needed. But having Warren/Yuta/Simmons, Harris back to his old self -and- playing tough D along with KD and Kyrie buying in, this team can be a lot better than we are now if we stay healthy and Kyrie just keeps his head down and plays basketball. He looks like he's having fun out there and competing defensively. That's all I ask. We may not beat Boston or the Bucks but at least we're headed in the right direction as a team.

Also, Jacque Vaughn has been such a positive influence on this team in terms of preparation and in game management. The issue is, can he keep KD and Kyrie's heads on straight when things get tough. That's where I don't know. In the Boston game, KD devolved into selfish basketball and it cost us heavily. He has to trust his teammates in those situations to get him the ball where he can score.

I'm not interested in another big. I want a big guard that can defend, handle the ball and shoot. A better Sumner. I'd invite Lopez to post up all game. Bucks won't do that. Embiid will bully teams for a quarter, wear himself out and then face up for the rest of the game. There's nobody that will punish teams by posting up all game in the Eastern Conference.

[OfficialRef]

Agreed. We haven't beaten anyone of consequence. This team is a big step below the top teams.

With our roster as is, I do think Marks has to make one more trade to get us some size to help when needed. But having Warren/Yuta/Simmons, Harris back to his old self -and- playing tough D along with KD and Kyrie buying in, this team can be a lot better than we are now if we stay healthy and Kyrie just keeps his head down and plays basketball. He looks like he's having fun out there and competing defensively. That's all I ask. We may not beat Boston or the Bucks but at least we're headed in the right direction as a team.

Also, Jacque Vaughn has been such a positive influence on this team in terms of preparation and in game management. The issue is, can he keep KD and Kyrie's heads on straight when things get tough. That's where I don't know. In the Boston game, KD devolved into selfish basketball and it cost us heavily. He has to trust his teammates in those situations to get him the ball where he can score.

I'm not interested in another big. I want a big guard that can defend, handle the ball and shoot. A better Sumner. I'd invite Lopez to post up all game. Bucks won't do that. Embiid will bully teams for a quarter, wear himself out and then face up for the rest of the game. There's nobody that will punish teams by posting up all game in the Eastern Conference.

I think the size at the Big man position is more of a need in the regular season then the playoffs.

Pelicans, Grizz, Bucks and so forth have killed us down low especially in the rebounding stage. A big would help put the pressure off of guys like KD and Clax who are more finesse players than bruisers.

If Chicago blows it up, I'd be really interested in trading for Drummond. Someone who can do the dirty work down low.

[MrDollarBills]

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We wasted two years over Nash. Marks has lost me completely

[NetsWorld]

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We wasted two years over Nash. Marks has lost me completely

The worst part is the organization/media tried to paint Nash as the victim, which was a joke. He really set this team back a lot; Marks should face some sort of ramification for this ****.

[therealbig3]

To be fair, I felt the team gave up on Nash and dogged it when he was here. Effort level is noticeably better under Vaughn, which is leading to better results on the court.

I still see a lot of the same problems present, the players are just busting their ass more.

I mean, do y'all remember when Lawrence Frank took over for Byron Scott and we won what, like 13-14 straight games right off the bat? I don't think there was a significant change in actual coaching ability, the players just needed a new voice in the locker room.

[TheNetsFan]

To be fair, I felt the team gave up on Nash and dogged it when he was here. Effort level is noticeably better under Vaughn, which is leading to better results on the court.

I still see a lot of the same problems present, the players are just busting their ass more.

I mean, do y'all remember when Lawrence Frank took over for Byron Scott and we won what, like 13-14 straight games right off the bat? I don't think there was a significant change in actual coaching ability, the players just needed a new voice in the locker room.

Scott was a horrific coach, where as Frank was at least a brilliant XS & Os guy with an incredible work ethic that the players respected.