Official Zion thread

[bigboi]

False. Alvarado would get big PT on basically anyone. Dude is a defensive stud, can handle the balll, hit the 3, and is shooting 69% at the rim. I can't see how anyone watched us and thought Alvarado is a garbage time player lol.

I don't see any way in hell the Mavericks are nearly as talented. You're giving them way too much credit. CJ, Jonas would be the 2nd best player on the team by a lot, and guys like Murphy, Alvarado and Nance would be pretty high on their totem pole. Zion's impact is immense, and MVP level for sure, but this team is way deeper, way more talented, and way more versatile than the Dallas supporting cast.

This is objectively false. Alvarado literally couldn’t get drafted and was on the verge of quitting basketball. So no, he would not get big PT with anyone. It took the Pels believing him to get minutes

Yea, and Ben Wallace couldn’t get drafted either, and bounced from team to team before he got good. Doesn’t matter what happened pre draft, he’s a good player now. This is a ridiculous take to dig your heels in on, both objectively and subjectively.

It isn’t a ridiculous take. Jose Alvarado isn’t the same player on another team and wouldn’t even get a chance to play in the first place. We see this with a ton of players, they’re good on one team but would’ve been an end of the bench player on other teams. Jose fits in Pels scheme, that’s it. Again, he would not get minutes anywhere

[HeartBreakKid]

Declaring Jose a good player 20 games into having decent stats is a bit premature. A lot of things can go wrong, and he would probably suck in the playoffs.

[MyUniBroDavis]

This is objectively false. Alvarado literally couldn’t get drafted and was on the verge of quitting basketball. So no, he would not get big PT with anyone. It took the Pels believing him to get minutes

An elite defensive 50-40-80 guard would get playing time anywhere what are you talking about lol

More like what are you talking about? Dude literally was undrafted so clearly he wouldn’t and couldn’t get playing time anywhere.

Jokic was a second round pick so therefore he is a player lol

[MyUniBroDavis]

Declaring Jose a good player 20 games into having decent stats is a bit premature. A lot of things can go wrong, and he would probably suck in the playoffs.

Saying a guy that’s been playing really well so far is a garbage time player on most teams is a bit dumb though lol

[Zion Wembanyama]

Daniels / Alvarado / Lewis Jr.
Jones / McCollum
Ingram / Murphy III / Marshall
Williamson / Liddell / Hayes
Valanciunas / Nance Jr.

2023 LAL/NOLA 1st
Lewis Jr. improves, competing with Alvarado for backup pg
Liddel starts at pf when Zion is out
Hayes improves into a more athletic Myles Turner at back up pf/c

[MyUniBroDavis]

Daniels / Alvarado / Lewis Jr.
Jones / McCollum
Ingram / Murphy III / Marshall
Williamson / Liddell / Hayes
Valanciunas / Nance Jr.

2023 LAL/NOLA 1st
Lewis Jr. improves, competing with Alvarado for backup pg
Liddel starts at pf when Zion is out
Hayes improves into a more athletic Myles Turner at back up pf/c

More athletic Myles Turner is crazy lol, Myles Turner is better than valanciunus for straight up

[Funcrusher]

Daniels / Alvarado / Lewis Jr.
Jones / McCollum
Ingram / Murphy III / Marshall
Williamson / Liddell / Hayes
Valanciunas / Nance Jr.

2023 LAL/NOLA 1st
Lewis Jr. improves, competing with Alvarado for backup pg
Liddel starts at pf when Zion is out
Hayes improves into a more athletic Myles Turner at back up pf/c

More athletic Myles Turner is crazy lol, Myles Turner is better than valanciunus for straight up

i uhh... i don't think he's serious with that take lol

[MyUniBroDavis]

Daniels / Alvarado / Lewis Jr.
Jones / McCollum
Ingram / Murphy III / Marshall
Williamson / Liddell / Hayes
Valanciunas / Nance Jr.

2023 LAL/NOLA 1st
Lewis Jr. improves, competing with Alvarado for backup pg
Liddel starts at pf when Zion is out
Hayes improves into a more athletic Myles Turner at back up pf/c

More athletic Myles Turner is crazy lol, Myles Turner is better than valanciunus for straight up

i uhh... i don't think he's serious with that take lol

I just saw his username lmfao

[Funcrusher]

Declaring Jose a good player 20 games into having decent stats is a bit premature. A lot of things can go wrong, and he would probably suck in the playoffs.

I mean, I don't really see anything in his game or output that won't stand up to the test of time over the length of a season. The biggest thing is his shooting, that's his swing skill and really the only thing realistically to my mind that if headed south could derail his value, and that could happen but I dunno, he came out of GT ironically with shotmaking kinda being his forte lol so i wouldn't say his shooting jump from year 1 - year 2 is a fluke atm.

[NO-KG-AI]

Jose Alvarado has 80 games of action, and 6 playoff games, and he's been a good player through all of it. He's a keeper.

I'm literally mad. Imagine watching basketball and not loving Jose Alvarado. Just say you've never watched him play at all.

There's no way these guys watch basketball, especially with this dumb ass undrafted take. Ben Wallace, Fred Van Vleet and Bruce Bowen all wouldn't make any teams or get playing time, because they were undrafted.

[HeartBreakKid]

Jose Alvarado has 80 games of action, and 6 playoff games, and he's been a good player through all of it. He's a keeper.

I'm literally mad. Imagine watching basketball and not loving Jose Alvarado. Just say you've never watched him play at all.

There's no way these guys watch basketball, especially with this dumb ass undrafted take. Ben Wallace, Fred Van Vleet and Bruce Bowen all wouldn't make any teams or get playing time, because they were undrafted.

He wasn't good throughout "all" 80 games. That's nonsense unless your standard for good is not very high.

Puerto Rico is one of the few national teams I follow and college ball. So I do find it ironic that someone who probably only heard of Jose Alvarado recently is giving lip service and using emojis and using the "you didn't see him play argument" (even more dumb, considering in the same post you've pointed out he has played in the playoffs, so obviously people have seen him). Next you're going to say no one ever saw Zion Williamson ever play, which makes almost as much sense.

I didn't even say he was bad and you're getting mad, and also making bizarre comparisons to Ben Wallace because they're both undrafted, as if their careers are mirrors of each other.

He was a minor roleplayer last year and barely played. That isn't controversial. This year he is better.

Just say you're a homer. How's them apples.


EDIT: This is the Zion thread. Didn't notice, shouldn't even waste my time - "you never seen him play" argument. Oh lord, homers and their arrogance.

Personal attack, warned. Penbeast0

[NO-KG-AI]

Jose Alvarado has 80 games of action, and 6 playoff games, and he's been a good player through all of it. He's a keeper.

I'm literally mad. Imagine watching basketball and not loving Jose Alvarado. Just say you've never watched him play at all.

There's no way these guys watch basketball, especially with this dumb ass undrafted take. Ben Wallace, Fred Van Vleet and Bruce Bowen all wouldn't make any teams or get playing time, because they were undrafted.

He wasn't good throughout "all" 80 games. That's nonsense unless your standard for good is not very high.

Puerto Rico is one of the few national teams I follow and college ball. So I do find it ironic that someone who probably only heard of Jose Alvarado recently is giving lip service and using emojis and using the "you didn't see him play argument" (even more dumb, considering in the same post you've pointed out he has played in the playoffs, so obviously people have seen him).

I didn't even say he was bad and you're getting mad, and also making bizarre comparisons to Ben Wallace because they're both undrafted, as if their careers are mirrors of each other.

He was a minor roleplayer last year and barely played. That isn't controversial. This year he is better.

Just say you're a homer. How's them apples.


EDIT: This is the Zion thread. Didn't notice, shouldn't even waste my time - "you never seen him play" argument. Oh lord, homers and their arrogance.

I brought up Ben Wallace because someone said he can’t be good or usable because he was undrafted. Was that you? i don’t care enough to go find who said that dumbass stuff.

If you think Jose Alvarado wouldn’t make most teams or wouldn’t crack the rotation on most teams or “wouldn’t get a chance to play”, you have nothing to back it up with statistically or objectively, and if you don’t believe that, this has nothing to do with you, so shut up and move on and don’t get butthurt when you respond in threads and literally didn’t even bother reading a topic.


But yea, “he wouldn’t get a chance to play” on another team is brain dead. Maybe teams wouldn’t have given him a chance pre-draft, but that’s long since past, the Pelicans didn’t draft him either. Just like how teams aren’t lining up to sign Anthony Bennett based on being the first pick. The entire league knows he’s a rotation player now, what they thought before is irrelevant.

Don’t double down on someone else’s horrific take about him not being able to get PT on any team but the Pelicans .

You know better than to disagree in this manner. Warned. trex