OT - Clippers Superfan Gets Knocked Out By Arena Security Guard

[itsxtray]

New York Post Article

Not sure what was said but definitely quite the escalation by the security guard. Good rule of thumb is never to touch someone in a law enforcement capacity though.

Law enforcement capacity? If he's a security guard his job is to observe and report to an adult. They aren't in any way shape or form law enforcement. Now, I'd agree people who work those jobs are normally the wrong people to get hands on with as they likely think they're law enforcement and are more likely to be volatile and unstable. But call them that.

Exactly. It's the security guard's job to warn off and de-escalate people from bad behavior. If that fails, ring in a real cop/sheriff to take care of things, of which there are many in the arena. Why? Due to liability reasons, now Clipper Darrell can sue the ever living **** out of the security company/Staples/Ballmer etc. Now if a cop/sheriff went trigger happy in dishing out an unwarranted ass whooping for no reason, the cop can get off scot free due to qualified immunity, or the cops gets sued and are forced to make the payout settlement, and not security company/Staples/Ballmer etc being held liable. All it costs is the security guard's pride looking a bit like a pussy for not dropping Darrell on the spot, but that's what his job is for, observe and report. This is what keeping it too real ends up looking like.

Yep, my first job out of high school was working for Universal Protection Service which is now Allied Universal after a merger with Allied Barton. We literally had to take a bunch of tests specifically saying we are not law enforcement and can not put our hands on people for any reason. Observe and report only. We are not cops with qualified immunity. If you put your hands on someone you will be fired and have no protection from being sued for damages. That's why i know this guard knew this but his emotions just got in the way. You let that guy go around you, make a note of the incident in your DAR, and then you call it into dispatch and let them handle it from there.

[dhsilv2]

Law enforcement capacity? If he's a security guard his job is to observe and report to an adult. They aren't in any way shape or form law enforcement. Now, I'd agree people who work those jobs are normally the wrong people to get hands on with as they likely think they're law enforcement and are more likely to be volatile and unstable. But call them that.

Exactly. It's the security guard's job to warn off and de-escalate people from bad behavior. If that fails, ring in a real cop/sheriff to take care of things, of which there are many in the arena. Why? Due to liability reasons, now Clipper Darrell can sue the ever living **** out of the security company/Staples/Ballmer etc. Now if a cop/sheriff went trigger happy in dishing out an unwarranted ass whooping for no reason, the cop can get off scot free due to qualified immunity, or the cops gets sued and are forced to make the payout settlement, and not security company/Staples/Ballmer etc being held liable. All it costs is the security guard's pride looking a bit like a pussy for not dropping Darrell on the spot, but that's what his job is for, observe and report. This is what keeping it too real ends up looking like.

Yep, my first job out of high school was working for Universal Protection Service which is now Allied Universal after a merger with Allied Barton. We literally had to take a bunch of tests specifically saying we are not law enforcement and can not put our hands on people for any reason. Observe and report only. We are not cops with qualified immunity. If you put your hands on someone you will be fired and have no protection from being sued for damages. That's why i know this guard knew this but his emotions just got in the way. You let that guy go around you, make a note of the incident in your DAR, and then you and you call it into dispatch and let them handle it from there.

As he said, they're at an arena. 100% he has a direct contact for an officer who could have been there in less than 2 minutes. Isn't even like someone has to make a call here, they're in the building and ready to help.

[shangrila]

When I saw the title, I worried this was about Clipsfan.

His superfan status got revoked when he vacationed as an OKC fan

[sjballer03]

I agree. He swung first. The security guard has a right to defend himself

I'm not actually sure if he was trying to swing at the security guard. If you look closely it doesn't look like a normal punching motion and it kind of looks like he was trying to move his arm in such a way as to get the security guards hand off of him.

Maybe it was a punch, but there's enough there to make me think it might not have been.

Hard to see from that angle. There’s no audio so who know what was said to the security guard either…maybe he was threatening him and combined with the “hand motion” warrantee the punch. Either way, hopefully no charges are pressed. But we’re in a law suit happy country so wouldn’t be surprised. 40 years ago we would have moved on already

Typical appeal for authority type speak. Which is ironic because the real authorities have arrested that security guard.

[JB2]

Laker Darrell

[Vae Victus]

Laker Darrell

Naw, Jeannie Buss too cheap to even offer him a discount on season tickets for him to switch sides to make the Clippers look bad. Darrell will get a nice payout, but Laker season tickets are still too expensive!

[Reeko]

The security guard had his forearm on the fan's neck, the fan then swung upward to knock the guard's arm off. Security guard was all the way wrong.

[WillyJakkz]

Y'all are ridiculous if you think Clipper Darrell started a fight and the news report is also false stating so.

The guy was trying to walk around the security guard who apparently was preventing entry and the guard put his hands on him.

Clipper Darrell knocked the guards hand away as a "get your hands off me" move and the guard snuck him.

Clipper Darrell should press charges to the full extent and also sue deep pockets Steve Balmer, the Arena, and or the insurance company and security company who hired the security guard.

Ya boy bout to get paid for being assaulted.

[Pharmcat]

thats just wrong, they might as well name the new stadium "clipper darrell" for the payout he going to be getting

[Pharmcat]

When I saw the title, I worried this was about Clipsfan.

OKCFanSinceConcussion

[JB2]

Laker Darrell

Naw, Jeannie Buss too cheap to even offer him a discount on season tickets for him to switch sides to make the Clippers look bad. Darrell will get a nice payout, but Laker season tickets are still too expensive!

Nah he can finally afford to be a lakers season ticket holder. He about to get a fat fat check.

[mastermixer]

Law enforcement capacity? If he's a security guard his job is to observe and report to an adult. They aren't in any way shape or form law enforcement. Now, I'd agree people who work those jobs are normally the wrong people to get hands on with as they likely think they're law enforcement and are more likely to be volatile and unstable. But call them that.

Exactly. It's the security guard's job to warn off and de-escalate people from bad behavior. If that fails, ring in a real cop/sheriff to take care of things, of which there are many in the arena. Why? Due to liability reasons, now Clipper Darrell can sue the ever living **** out of the security company/Staples/Ballmer etc. Now if a cop/sheriff went trigger happy in dishing out an unwarranted ass whooping for no reason, the cop can get off scot free due to qualified immunity, or the cops gets sued and are forced to make the payout settlement, and not security company/Staples/Ballmer etc being held liable. All it costs is the security guard's pride looking a bit like a pussy for not dropping Darrell on the spot, but that's what his job is for, observe and report. This is what keeping it too real ends up looking like.

Yep, my first job out of high school was working for Universal Protection Service which is now Allied Universal after a merger with Allied Barton. We literally had to take a bunch of tests specifically saying we are not law enforcement and can not put our hands on people for any reason. Observe and report only. We are not cops with qualified immunity. If you put your hands on someone you will be fired and have no protection from being sued for damages. That's why i know this guard knew this but his emotions just got in the way. You let that guy go around you, make a note of the incident in your DAR, and then you and you call it into dispatch and let them handle it from there.

So if I'm at a concert and security is saying I cant go backstage I should just be able to walk through and ignore them and they cant physically stop me? That they're trained to just let me through and call the cops?

[SNPA]

Darrell deserved to be knocked out for starting a fight

Nice troll.

Obviously the security guard is way the **** criminally out of line. He’ll be spending some nights in jail and having his wages garnished for a long time. His company is also going to really regret hiring that guy. Balmer won’t notice whatever it costs.

[sip]

That guard is definitely getting assault charges filed against him and clearly Clipper Darrell did not throw a punch at him.

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[itsxtray]

Exactly. It's the security guard's job to warn off and de-escalate people from bad behavior. If that fails, ring in a real cop/sheriff to take care of things, of which there are many in the arena. Why? Due to liability reasons, now Clipper Darrell can sue the ever living **** out of the security company/Staples/Ballmer etc. Now if a cop/sheriff went trigger happy in dishing out an unwarranted ass whooping for no reason, the cop can get off scot free due to qualified immunity, or the cops gets sued and are forced to make the payout settlement, and not security company/Staples/Ballmer etc being held liable. All it costs is the security guard's pride looking a bit like a pussy for not dropping Darrell on the spot, but that's what his job is for, observe and report. This is what keeping it too real ends up looking like.

Yep, my first job out of high school was working for Universal Protection Service which is now Allied Universal after a merger with Allied Barton. We literally had to take a bunch of tests specifically saying we are not law enforcement and can not put our hands on people for any reason. Observe and report only. We are not cops with qualified immunity. If you put your hands on someone you will be fired and have no protection from being sued for damages. That's why i know this guard knew this but his emotions just got in the way. You let that guy go around you, make a note of the incident in your DAR, and then you and you call it into dispatch and let them handle it from there.

So if I'm at a concert and security is saying I cant go backstage I should just be able to walk through and ignore them and they cant physically stop me? That they're trained to just let me through and call the cops?

Concerts are usually different because the performers usually have their own private security that'll handle situations like that.

[ejftw]

When I saw the title, I worried this was about Clipsfan.

Sad part is, he might be more loyal to the Clippers than Darrell was

[KawhiSoSerious]

That's a Draymond Green sucker punch right there

How so?

[mastermixer]

Yep, my first job out of high school was working for Universal Protection Service which is now Allied Universal after a merger with Allied Barton. We literally had to take a bunch of tests specifically saying we are not law enforcement and can not put our hands on people for any reason. Observe and report only. We are not cops with qualified immunity. If you put your hands on someone you will be fired and have no protection from being sued for damages. That's why i know this guard knew this but his emotions just got in the way. You let that guy go around you, make a note of the incident in your DAR, and then you and you call it into dispatch and let them handle it from there.

So if I'm at a concert and security is saying I cant go backstage I should just be able to walk through and ignore them and they cant physically stop me? That they're trained to just let me through and call the cops?

Concerts are usually different because the performers usually have their own private security that'll handle situations like that.

What's the difference between an arena security and performer's security?

[og15]

I agree. He swung first. The security guard has a right to defend himself

I'm not actually sure if he was trying to swing at the security guard. If you look closely it doesn't look like a normal punching motion and it kind of looks like he was trying to move his arm in such a way as to get the security guards hand off of him.

Maybe it was a punch, but there's enough there to make me think it might not have been.

Hard to see from that angle. There’s no audio so who know what was said to the security guard either…maybe he was threatening him and combined with the “hand motion” warrantee the punch. Either way, hopefully no charges are pressed. But we’re in a law suit happy country so wouldn’t be surprised. 40 years ago we would have moved on already

Yea, it's a bit tough to see exactly I suppose, but my first thought was that he was trying to push the arm off him, that would be a terrible punch attempt if it was one.

But if he was threatening the security guard while there are like 4 other workers around, I'm not sure that is a reason to escalate. What kinds of threats is the out of shape older man going to levy that would actually be threatening in that situation?

[mediocrityrules]

That's a Draymond Green sucker punch right there

How so?

Punching someone who wasn't ready for it