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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#501 » by Psubs » Sun Dec 18, 2022 5:23 pm

BoyzNTheHood wrote:Baba Miller is probably my #1 option for us at the moment. I didn't think we'd have a shot at him, but with the way we're playing we might pick top 10. I hope he takes the whole year off because the NCAA is a flaming pile of dog and they don't deserve to make money off of him.

As for the game, smooth 6'10"+ with guard skills? Yes please. This kid might grow to 7'0" when he's done growing. He could have a Giannis-esque growth curve. Not necessarily a multiple time MVP, but I could see him going from a project type to a superstar.


Ya, between #10-15. Guard that has a growth spurt but even more than Lamelo.

Have the drafts kept on getting better and better since 2019? Seems like it.
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#502 » by will » Sun Dec 18, 2022 5:24 pm

Clear the deadwood to get some proper prospects.
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#503 » by Psubs » Sun Dec 18, 2022 5:25 pm

will wrote:Clear the deadwood to get some proper prospects.


Would love pick around #10 and another in the 20's.
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#504 » by BoyzNTheHood » Sun Dec 18, 2022 6:35 pm

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BoyzNTheHood wrote:Talked about Gradey Dick a while back, and now everyone wants him because of 1 good game. Some of you are way too reactive. The signs for Gradey were there from day 1. The kid is a stud.


He looks like Reggie Miller 2.0 with that release!
If he learns to move off the ball like Reggie did he'd be an absolute monster, especially in the modern NBA.

I just love the kids attitude. People question his defense so he goes out and gets 5 steals. Absolute killer mentality.

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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#505 » by BoyzNTheHood » Sun Dec 18, 2022 6:37 pm

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BoyzNTheHood wrote:Baba Miller is probably my #1 option for us at the moment. I didn't think we'd have a shot at him, but with the way we're playing we might pick top 10. I hope he takes the whole year off because the NCAA is a flaming pile of dog and they don't deserve to make money off of him.

As for the game, smooth 6'10"+ with guard skills? Yes please. This kid might grow to 7'0" when he's done growing. He could have a Giannis-esque growth curve. Not necessarily a multiple time MVP, but I could see him going from a project type to a superstar.


Ya, between #10-15. Guard that has a growth spurt but even more than Lamelo.

Have the drafts kept on getting better and better since 2019? Seems like it.
Baba is just so smooth. He's already so fluid at about 6'10", so another 2 inches shouldn't be too much of a crazy difference for him. I just don't want people to see how good he is, so I hope he doesn't play

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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#506 » by Psubs » Sun Dec 18, 2022 8:48 pm

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BoyzNTheHood wrote:Talked about Gradey Dick a while back, and now everyone wants him because of 1 good game. Some of you are way too reactive. The signs for Gradey were there from day 1. The kid is a stud.


He looks like Reggie Miller 2.0 with that release!
If he learns to move off the ball like Reggie did he'd be an absolute monster, especially in the modern NBA.

I just love the kids attitude. People question his defense so he goes out and gets 5 steals. Absolute killer mentality.

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I think his floor is like a Tyler Herro with a little less handles.



Actually his floor floor would be 6'8 version of Luke Kennard. Whoa, Kennard is shooting 48% from 3 and a career 43% shooter.
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#508 » by ItsDanger » Sun Dec 18, 2022 9:17 pm

Herro is a shot creating combo guard. Gradey is an elite 3 pt SF. 49% from 3 on high volume is VERY good and shows variety in his game. He'll sneak up the rankings because he fills a need on any team.
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#509 » by Snowwy » Sun Dec 18, 2022 9:19 pm

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ItsDanger wrote:Still need to see progression through conference matchups

https://cbbreview.com/2022/12/16/zach-edeys-dominance-continues-to-grow/

"Edey has had 25 hooks over his (left) shoulder for 1.29 PPP and 11 drop steps for 1.18 PPP. Both are top tier numbers." For context, 3 pt shots at 33.3% are 1.00 PPP. Anything above 1 is considered good. The quote is referencing shots he can get in NBA no matter who is guarding him because of his size. Its the exact same shot for him as in college.

"Per Kenpom, Edey is drawing 7.6 fouls per 40 minutes, the 12th-highest rate in the country."

"Only 29.5% of Purdue’s opponents shots have been at the rim. There is only one teams in all of D1 with a lower percentage of opponent shots coming at the rim (Villanova)." Blocked shots are just one measure, rim intimidation is the most important aspect though.

It is hard to see how Edey fits in the NBA. He is just so incredible slow and methodical. The NBA just isn't played like that anymore.

How? 7'4 295 lbs with scoring touch requires a double in the post. So he creates open looks. On ballscreens he's a force. Let them chuck 3s or long 2s on the other end.

Have you watched him play? Full game. Not highlights. He is the slowest player in college basketball. The entire game would be 4 on 5 on the defensive end. He could probably only guard about five players without significant help in the entire NBA. He's too slow to help and cannot switch. If this were 1995, he's be a star, but its 2022.
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#510 » by ItsDanger » Sun Dec 18, 2022 10:23 pm

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Snowwy wrote:It is hard to see how Edey fits in the NBA. He is just so incredible slow and methodical. The NBA just isn't played like that anymore.

How? 7'4 295 lbs with scoring touch requires a double in the post. So he creates open looks. On ballscreens he's a force. Let them chuck 3s or long 2s on the other end.

Have you watched him play? Full game. Not highlights. He is the slowest player in college basketball. The entire game would be 4 on 5 on the defensive end. He could probably only guard about five players without significant help in the entire NBA. He's too slow to help and cannot switch. If this were 1995, he's be a star, but its 2022.

Several. Same speed as several centres playing in NBA currently. Is he switchable? No. Are a lot of centres on top teams currently in NBA switchable? No. Most only discuss one aspect, it's the other end that's the issue. 40% from 3 is only 1.2 PPP.
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#511 » by canada_dry » Sun Dec 18, 2022 10:39 pm

ItsDanger wrote:
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ItsDanger wrote:How? 7'4 295 lbs with scoring touch requires a double in the post. So he creates open looks. On ballscreens he's a force. Let them chuck 3s or long 2s on the other end.

Have you watched him play? Full game. Not highlights. He is the slowest player in college basketball. The entire game would be 4 on 5 on the defensive end. He could probably only guard about five players without significant help in the entire NBA. He's too slow to help and cannot switch. If this were 1995, he's be a star, but its 2022.

Several. Same speed as several centres playing in NBA currently. Is he switchable? No. Are a lot of centres on top teams currently in NBA switchable? No. Most only discuss one aspect, it's the other end that's the issue. 40% from 3 is only 1.2 PPP.
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#512 » by Los_29 » Sun Dec 18, 2022 10:52 pm

I’ll be shocked if Zach Edey has a career in the NBA.
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#513 » by ItsDanger » Sun Dec 18, 2022 10:59 pm

I can tell people haven't seen Purdue play. The attraction of someone like that is you don't have to spend high picks on him. You seriously going to draft more Bantons? Now that's a waste.
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#514 » by Snowwy » Sun Dec 18, 2022 11:05 pm

canada_dry wrote:
ItsDanger wrote:
Snowwy wrote:Have you watched him play? Full game. Not highlights. He is the slowest player in college basketball. The entire game would be 4 on 5 on the defensive end. He could probably only guard about five players without significant help in the entire NBA. He's too slow to help and cannot switch. If this were 1995, he's be a star, but its 2022.

Several. Same speed as several centres playing in NBA currently. Is he switchable? No. Are a lot of centres on top teams currently in NBA switchable? No. Most only discuss one aspect, it's the other end that's the issue. 40% from 3 is only 1.2 PPP.
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#515 » by Snowwy » Sun Dec 18, 2022 11:12 pm

ItsDanger wrote:I can tell people haven't seen Purdue play. The attraction of someone like that is you don't have to spend high picks on him. You seriously going to draft more Bantons? Now that's a waste.

Which games did you watch him play by the way?

I obviously watched him play Gonzaga, I watch probably 30 of their 32 games every year, West Virginia (first half) and the most of the Duke game, I gave up a bit early as that was a blowout. He is obviously a dominate CBB player, but to suggest that he will be better than 1.2 PPP in the NBA is pretty.. interesting. There is no team in the NBA that is better than that. Last year I saw him play against Illnois, Wisconsin and Iowa, all near the end of the season.

At the middle of the second round, I would always prefer a guy like Banton. A guy like that can play in the NBA at its most valuable position, wing whereas a guy like Edey might be able to play (I don't think so) at its least valuable position.
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#516 » by ItsDanger » Sun Dec 18, 2022 11:17 pm

Snowwy wrote:
ItsDanger wrote:I can tell people haven't seen Purdue play. The attraction of someone like that is you don't have to spend high picks on him. You seriously going to draft more Bantons? Now that's a waste.

Which games did you watch him play by the way?

I obviously watched him play Gonzaga, I watch probably 30 of their 32 games every year, West Virginia (first half) and the most of the Duke game, I gave up a bit early as that was a blowout. He is obviously a dominate CBB player, but to suggest that he will be better than 1.2 PPP in the NBA is pretty.. interesting. There is no team in the NBA that is better than that.

At the middle of the second round, I would always prefer a guy like Banton. A guy like that can play in the NBA at its most valuable position, wing whereas a guy like Edey might be able to play (I don't think so) at its least valuable position.

I've seen 9 of their games plus many last season. And I've haven't seen a player with this physical profile before. At pick #45 or thereabouts, it's worth the risk. Post defense is terrible in today's league.
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#517 » by tripa » Mon Dec 19, 2022 1:30 am

Someone needs to compile a list of the bucket-getters. That should be our only focus in the first round.
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#518 » by will » Mon Dec 19, 2022 1:38 am

Just get rid of the deadwood, dammit.
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#519 » by tripa » Mon Dec 19, 2022 5:44 am

I refuse to support a man named Gradey Dick. Dont care if hes shooting 100%

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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#520 » by BoyzNTheHood » Mon Dec 19, 2022 6:03 am

tripa wrote:I refuse to support a man named Gradey Dick. Dont care if hes shooting 100%

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Asks for a list of bucket getters, then refuses to support Gradey Dick because of his own insecurities. Make it make sense.
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