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Price: Wendell Carter Jr to Return on Friday 12/23

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Price: Wendell Carter Jr to Return on Friday 12/23 

Post#1 » by Knightro » Mon Dec 19, 2022 5:13 pm

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Re: Price: Wendell Carter Jr to Return on Friday 12/23 

Post#2 » by eyriq » Mon Dec 19, 2022 5:35 pm

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Re: Price: Wendell Carter Jr to Return on Friday 12/23 

Post#3 » by basketballRob » Mon Dec 19, 2022 6:02 pm

Still no updates on the rest of the players .

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Re: Price: Wendell Carter Jr to Return on Friday 12/23 

Post#4 » by zaymon » Mon Dec 19, 2022 7:37 pm

Physical bigs are really important in our schemes. We play a lot of hand offs, we like to use a lot of screens. We were ok with Carter, we were **** without both Carter and MWagner and we are good with MWagner. WCJ is obviously better than MWagner, but he doesnt provide energy, he gets easly frustrated. I think having Suggs in the starting lineup and MWagner from the bench gives both units enough boost. I worry starting unit with Carter instead of MWagner and without Suggs could look a little bit flat.
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Re: Price: Wendell Carter Jr to Return on Friday 12/23 

Post#5 » by Viper1500 » Mon Dec 19, 2022 7:41 pm

As good as Mo and Moe have been, WCJ is clearly the better player. If healthy, he’s a top 15 center in this league.


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Re: Price: Wendell Carter Jr to Return on Friday 12/23 

Post#6 » by Knightro » Mon Dec 19, 2022 7:42 pm

zaymon wrote:Physical bigs are really important in our schemes. We play a lot of hand offs, we like to use a lot of screens. We were ok with Carter, we were **** without both Carter and MWagner and we are good with MWagner. WCJ is obviously better than MWagner, but he doesnt provide energy, he gets easly frustrated. I think having Suggs in the starting lineup and MWagner from the bench gives both units enough boost. I worry starting unit with Carter instead of MWagner and without Suggs could look a little bit flat.


Statistically, Carter was the Magic's best player by a wide margin before he got injured.

I'm thrilled he's back and hoping he can get back to his old form quickly.
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Re: Price: Wendell Carter Jr to Return on Friday 12/23 

Post#7 » by zaymon » Mon Dec 19, 2022 7:45 pm

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zaymon wrote:Physical bigs are really important in our schemes. We play a lot of hand offs, we like to use a lot of screens. We were ok with Carter, we were **** without both Carter and MWagner and we are good with MWagner. WCJ is obviously better than MWagner, but he doesnt provide energy, he gets easly frustrated. I think having Suggs in the starting lineup and MWagner from the bench gives both units enough boost. I worry starting unit with Carter instead of MWagner and without Suggs could look a little bit flat.


Statistically, Carter was the Magic's best player by a wide margin before he got injured.

I'm thrilled he's back and hoping he can get back to his old form quickly.


I am a very big fan of Carter, and i see him as a core member unlike some posters, but i worry that starting unit including Bol, Banchero, Wagner and Carter have too many introvertic people. If Franz is your most energetic and out going dude there is something wrong :P
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Re: Price: Wendell Carter Jr to Return on Friday 12/23 

Post#8 » by jezzerinho » Mon Dec 19, 2022 8:16 pm

zaymon wrote:Physical bigs are really important in our schemes. We play a lot of hand offs, we like to use a lot of screens. We were ok with Carter, we were **** without both Carter and MWagner and we are good with MWagner. WCJ is obviously better than MWagner, but he doesnt provide energy, he gets easly frustrated. I think having Suggs in the starting lineup and MWagner from the bench gives both units enough boost. I worry starting unit with Carter instead of MWagner and without Suggs could look a little bit flat.


100% agree. Moe lately has been our only credible screener and it's been an issue. Franz is young and not the broadest guy, more of a finesse forward, but his screens and contests for rebounds are pretty milquetoast stuff.

Carter being back will hopefully let us know if f Fultz can now run the PnR because with these crappy screens the results are pretty lukewarm.
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Re: Price: Wendell Carter Jr to Return on Friday 12/23 

Post#9 » by Def Swami » Mon Dec 19, 2022 9:19 pm

I assume Bol hits the bench?
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Post#10 » by eyriq » Mon Dec 19, 2022 9:21 pm

Def Swami wrote:I assume Bol hits the bench?
Interesting. I hadn't considered that. What starting lineup do you have in mind?
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Re: Price: Wendell Carter Jr to Return on Friday 12/23 

Post#11 » by Knightro » Mon Dec 19, 2022 9:39 pm

Def Swami wrote:I assume Bol hits the bench?


I expect the starters to be...

Fultz, Franz, Bol, Banchero, Carter

Where it gets really interesting is when Suggs and Harris are ready to return.
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Re: Price: Wendell Carter Jr to Return on Friday 12/23 

Post#12 » by zaymon » Mon Dec 19, 2022 10:02 pm

Knightro wrote:
Def Swami wrote:I assume Bol hits the bench?


I expect the starters to be...

Fultz, Franz, Bol, Banchero, Carter

Where it gets really interesting is when Suggs and Harris are ready to return.


Bol is not in finishing lineups lately. I think its a matter of time and players returning from injuries to move him to the bench.
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Post#13 » by SOUL » Mon Dec 19, 2022 10:14 pm

zaymon wrote:Bol is not in finishing lineups lately. I think its a matter of time and players returning from injuries to move him to the bench.


I think they like the tall lineups. Fultz/Wagner/Banchero/Bol/WCJ possibly.

Bol usually 50/50 finishes games depending on the matchups but ever since he was inserted in the starting lineup, it's been like that so I don't think it's a precursor.
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Re: Price: Wendell Carter Jr to Return on Friday 12/23 

Post#14 » by eyriq » Mon Dec 19, 2022 10:22 pm

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Knightro wrote:
Def Swami wrote:I assume Bol hits the bench?


I expect the starters to be...

Fultz, Franz, Bol, Banchero, Carter

Where it gets really interesting is when Suggs and Harris are ready to return.


Bol is not in finishing lineups lately. I think its a matter of time and players returning from injuries to move him to the bench.


Man, it would be really disappointing to move away from starting Bol at this stage. He's such an efficient scorer, blocks shots like a champ, and is one of our better guys at getting a defensive rebound. I'd prefer to see us start getting him involved in more pick n rolls and kick outs. But in fairness the fit isn't obvious as a starter, it takes a lot of creativity and imagination to see it work out.
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Re: Price: Wendell Carter Jr to Return on Friday 12/23 

Post#15 » by RookieStar » Mon Dec 19, 2022 10:33 pm

Are we sure WCJ is gonna start right away? Isnt it our MO to *ease* uo our players by giving them minutes restrictions from the bench?
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Post#16 » by tooler » Mon Dec 19, 2022 11:08 pm

Unless he's on a minutes restriction, there's no way that Moe Wagner starts over WCJ. And it's not like you have to treat Moe like a fragile doll so he doesn't lose his confidence to develop into a star player. Pretty easy choice.
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Re: Price: Wendell Carter Jr to Return on Friday 12/23 

Post#17 » by NavalAviator94 » Mon Dec 19, 2022 11:10 pm

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zaymon wrote:Physical bigs are really important in our schemes. We play a lot of hand offs, we like to use a lot of screens. We were ok with Carter, we were **** without both Carter and MWagner and we are good with MWagner. WCJ is obviously better than MWagner, but he doesnt provide energy, he gets easly frustrated. I think having Suggs in the starting lineup and MWagner from the bench gives both units enough boost. I worry starting unit with Carter instead of MWagner and without Suggs could look a little bit flat.


Statistically, Carter was the Magic's best player by a wide margin before he got injured.

I'm thrilled he's back and hoping he can get back to his old form quickly.


I just read somewhere that WCJ was in the top ten of pick and roll's as well. Can't find the stat
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Re: Price: Wendell Carter Jr to Return on Friday 12/23 

Post#18 » by Knightro » Mon Dec 19, 2022 11:17 pm

NavalAviator94 wrote:I just read somewhere that WCJ was in the top ten of pick and roll's as well. Can't find the stat


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Post#19 » by NavalAviator94 » Mon Dec 19, 2022 11:17 pm

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NavalAviator94 wrote:I just read somewhere that WCJ was in the top ten of pick and roll's as well. Can't find the stat


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Post#20 » by eyriq » Mon Dec 19, 2022 11:22 pm

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NavalAviator94 wrote:I just read somewhere that WCJ was in the top ten of pick and roll's as well. Can't find the stat


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