The Knicks have won 9 in a row!

[Kittles02]

Nets are 9-1 in their past 10 games. Have won 6 in a row

I like how you guys care about the Nets. Because the city of New York really doesn't. I never hear anyone talk about the Nets. Time for that team to relocate to Las Vegas or something. I heard they want a team.

Oh you the spokesperson for the city now? Lol

[iLLmatic860]

lowry was a 5 times all star in 2019, middleton was a multi year allstar, jrue was 3 time all defensive player in 2021, even past his prime DPOY gasol played elite defense that championship year. we are comparing them to brunson and knicks lol.

Whats your beef with Brunson? Are you still upset about Mavs embarrassing Suns in the playoffs?

[ibraheim718]

lowry was a 5 times all star in 2019, middleton was a multi year allstar, jrue was 3 time all defensive player in 2021, even past his prime DPOY gasol played elite defense that championship year. we are comparing them to brunson and knicks lol.

Are you comparing Brunson to Holiday and Lowry at the same point in their careers?

[Eric Millegan]

Me in the Christmas spirit: yay, that’s awesome, great achievement and they will get in the playoffs. Brunson is nice.
Remembering my wife calls me Luther Crank and the Grinch: whoopty doo. So have multiple other teams this year. Fact remains they are a treadmill team with juuust enough talent to be a mid to back seed in the East. Their ceiling is winning a play in game and maybe 2 games in the quarterfinal round

That’s ridiculous. Their ceiling is higher than the play-in.

[El Turco]

lowry was a 5 times all star in 2019, middleton was a multi year allstar, jrue was 3 time all defensive player in 2021, even past his prime DPOY gasol played elite defense that championship year. we are comparing them to brunson and knicks lol.

Are you comparing Brunson to Holiday and Lowry at the same point in their careers?

no, example was pedigree of lowry in 2019 and holiday in 2021, knicks fans seem to think brunson is comparable to them. brunson would likely been the 4th option on both teams, which is exactly my point.

and i am not a suns fan lol, sorry "your team also lost once" arguments wont work on me for obvious reasons

[ibraheim718]

lowry was a 5 times all star in 2019, middleton was a multi year allstar, jrue was 3 time all defensive player in 2021, even past his prime DPOY gasol played elite defense that championship year. we are comparing them to brunson and knicks lol.

Are you comparing Brunson to Holiday and Lowry at the same point in their careers?

no, example was pedigree of lowry in 2019 and holiday in 2021, knicks fans seem to think brunson is comparable to them. brunson would likely been the 4th option on both teams, which is exactly my point.

and i am not a suns fan lol, sorry "your team also lost once" arguments wont work on me for obvious reasons

The better question is can Brunson be the 2nd option after 10 years of servicve on a championship team the way Lowry was after 10 years in or the 3rd option like Jrue was after 10 years of being in the league? If you don't think he can well then you're just hating at this point.

He's been better than both those players in a much more scrutinized environment at the same point in their careers. So why not give him the benefit of the doubt seeing he's been proving the doubters wrong at every turn? They said he wasn't athletic enough to play in the league they were wrong.. they were saying he couldn't lead a team on his own.. uhhh he's proving them wrong whether you like it or not.

[ibraheim718]

This is year 5 for Brunson. He can absolutely reach the pedigree of Lowry and or Holiday within the next few years.. he's already almost there.

[dooki667]

Thank you. This guy acts like we have had such better experiences over the past 20 years. He's easily the best coach we've had and the results speak for themselves at this point.

Do y'all rank him higher than Mike Dantoni?

In a vacuum or just judging them by their Knicks tenure? Mike D's a better coach in general, but I think Thibs' stint has been more successful/impressive.

Yeah I completely agree with that buddy

[Capn'O]

lowry was a 5 times all star in 2019, middleton was a multi year allstar, jrue was 3 time all defensive player in 2021, even past his prime DPOY gasol played elite defense that championship year. we are comparing them to brunson and knicks lol.

Lowry's first year at 26 with the Raptors:

PPG: 11.6
APG: 6.4
PER: 17.5

Team Record: 34-48

Other Notable Players: Julius Randle Rudy Gay and RJ Barrett DeMar DeRozan

Brunson's first year at 26 with the Knicks:

PPG: 20.8
APG: 6.2
PER: 20.4

Team Record: 17-13

Likewise, Middleton's first appearance was at age 27. Holiday made his first all defense team at 27.

Hmmmm... so if Brunson gets in this season... looks like we're ahead of schedule

[El Turco]

Are you comparing Brunson to Holiday and Lowry at the same point in their careers?

no, example was pedigree of lowry in 2019 and holiday in 2021, knicks fans seem to think brunson is comparable to them. brunson would likely been the 4th option on both teams, which is exactly my point.

and i am not a suns fan lol, sorry "your team also lost once" arguments wont work on me for obvious reasons

The better question is can Brunson be the 2nd option after 10 years of servicve on a championship team the way Lowry was after 10 years in or the 3rd option like Jrue was after 10 years of being in the league? If you don't think he can well then you're just hating at this point.

He's been better than both those players in a much more scrutinized environment at the same point in their careers. So why not give him the benefit of the doubt seeing he's been proving the doubters wrong at every turn? They said he wasn't athletic enough to play in the league they were wrong.. they were saying he couldn't lead a team on his own.. uhhh he's proving them wrong whether you like it or not.

he is proving what? leading a team to likely play in spot or quick first round exit? after year and a quarter of decent but not even an all star performance expecting him to be at the level of a borderline hall of fame player is....ambitious if i were to keep it polite.

[El Turco]

lowry was a 5 times all star in 2019, middleton was a multi year allstar, jrue was 3 time all defensive player in 2021, even past his prime DPOY gasol played elite defense that championship year. we are comparing them to brunson and knicks lol.

Lowry's first year at 26 with the Raptors:

PPG: 11.6
APG: 6.4
PER: 17.5

Team Record: 34-48

Other Notable Players: Julius Randle Rudy Gay and RJ Barrett DeMar DeRozan

Brunson's first year at 26 with the Knicks:

PPG: 20.8
APG: 6.2
PER: 20.4

Team Record: 17-13

Likewise, Middleton's first appearance was at age 27. Holiday made his first all defense team at 27.

Hmmmm... so if Brunson gets in this season... looks like we're ahead of schedule

lol so we moved goal posts from 2019 raptors and 2021 bucks to some other random years at some other points. not every 26 year old non all star player is going to end up a lowry or holiday, good wish though.

i guess beasley family will be proud when malik makes it to hall of fame.

[ibraheim718]

no, example was pedigree of lowry in 2019 and holiday in 2021, knicks fans seem to think brunson is comparable to them. brunson would likely been the 4th option on both teams, which is exactly my point.

and i am not a suns fan lol, sorry "your team also lost once" arguments wont work on me for obvious reasons

The better question is can Brunson be the 2nd option after 10 years of servicve on a championship team the way Lowry was after 10 years in or the 3rd option like Jrue was after 10 years of being in the league? If you don't think he can well then you're just hating at this point.

He's been better than both those players in a much more scrutinized environment at the same point in their careers. So why not give him the benefit of the doubt seeing he's been proving the doubters wrong at every turn? They said he wasn't athletic enough to play in the league they were wrong.. they were saying he couldn't lead a team on his own.. uhhh he's proving them wrong whether you like it or not.

he is proving what? leading a team to likely play in spot or quick first round exit? after year and a quarter of decent but not even an all star performance expecting him to be at the level of a borderline hall of fame player is....ambitious if i were to keep it polite.

You've lost your mind. If you can't see he's proven he can play at an all star level at his position and have a hugely positive impact on winning basketball in a starting role then you're jaded. This same squad was garbage and all they added was Brunson and Hartenstein.

[knicksNOTslick]

Nets are 9-1 in their past 10 games. Have won 6 in a row

I like how you guys care about the Nets. Because the city of New York really doesn't. I never hear anyone talk about the Nets. Time for that team to relocate to Las Vegas or something. I heard they want a team.

Oh you the spokesperson for the city now? Lol

Yes. But how have the Nets played in New York for over 10 years now and are dead last in ticket sales? All while you have the superstars.

Do you need a spokesperson to explain that for you?

[El Turco]

The better question is can Brunson be the 2nd option after 10 years of servicve on a championship team the way Lowry was after 10 years in or the 3rd option like Jrue was after 10 years of being in the league? If you don't think he can well then you're just hating at this point.

He's been better than both those players in a much more scrutinized environment at the same point in their careers. So why not give him the benefit of the doubt seeing he's been proving the doubters wrong at every turn? They said he wasn't athletic enough to play in the league they were wrong.. they were saying he couldn't lead a team on his own.. uhhh he's proving them wrong whether you like it or not.

he is proving what? leading a team to likely play in spot or quick first round exit? after year and a quarter of decent but not even an all star performance expecting him to be at the level of a borderline hall of fame player is....ambitious if i were to keep it polite.

You've lost your mind. If you can't see he's proven he can play at an all star level at his position and have a hugely positive impact on winning basketball in a starting role then you're jaded. This same squad was garbage and all they added was Brunson and Hartenstein.

and? like a week ago knicks were 11-13 which is the same winning percentage as last year. couple games against chicago and indiana and he became a borderline hall of fame player, one bad week and he is likely back to irrelevancy

[ibraheim718]

he is proving what? leading a team to likely play in spot or quick first round exit? after year and a quarter of decent but not even an all star performance expecting him to be at the level of a borderline hall of fame player is....ambitious if i were to keep it polite.

You've lost your mind. If you can't see he's proven he can play at an all star level at his position and have a hugely positive impact on winning basketball in a starting role then you're jaded. This same squad was garbage and all they added was Brunson and Hartenstein.

and? like a week ago knicks were 11-13 which is same winning percentage as last year. couple games against chicago and indiana and he became a borderline hall of fame player, one bad week and he is likely back to irrelevancy

So wait.. Discredit how he performed in the playoffs for the mavs too?

Are you a Mavs fan?

[Ito]

East up for grabs new york gon b in the finals whether its Brooklyn or knicks

[ibraheim718]

Hold the presses.. "former NBA player calls Jalen Brunson an all star caliber player" Oh the audacity.

Watch on YouTube

[Capn'O]

lowry was a 5 times all star in 2019, middleton was a multi year allstar, jrue was 3 time all defensive player in 2021, even past his prime DPOY gasol played elite defense that championship year. we are comparing them to brunson and knicks lol.

Lowry's first year at 26 with the Raptors:

PPG: 11.6
APG: 6.4
PER: 17.5

Team Record: 34-48

Other Notable Players: Julius Randle Rudy Gay and RJ Barrett DeMar DeRozan

Brunson's first year at 26 with the Knicks:

PPG: 20.8
APG: 6.2
PER: 20.4

Team Record: 17-13

Likewise, Middleton's first appearance was at age 27. Holiday made his first all defense team at 27.

Hmmmm... so if Brunson gets in this season... looks like we're ahead of schedule

lol so we moved goal posts from 2019 raptors and 2021 bucks to some other random years at some other points. not every 26 year old non all star player is going to end up a lowry or holiday, good wish though.

i guess beasley family will be proud when malik makes it to hall of fame.

Well he's having a better season than 2019 Lowry too

In any event, no. We're not arguing if the Knicks have a championship roster right now. The assertion you made is that the Knicks don't have any players who could be core players on a championship team. We've identified one player who at the same relative point in his career is ahead of players who were core players on their championship teams. He's putting up all star numbers and having an all star impact on his team right now. At a younger age than Lowry did. Contending rosters don't materialize out of thin air where all of a sudden players that weren't **** before all of a sudden become core pieces.

And the conversation could continue even further. Quentin Grimes is substantially ahead of where Danny Green was at the same points in their careers, for example

[El Turco]

You've lost your mind. If you can't see he's proven he can play at an all star level at his position and have a hugely positive impact on winning basketball in a starting role then you're jaded. This same squad was garbage and all they added was Brunson and Hartenstein.

and? like a week ago knicks were 11-13 which is same winning percentage as last year. couple games against chicago and indiana and he became a borderline hall of fame player, one bad week and he is likely back to irrelevancy

So wait.. Discredit how he performed in the playoffs for the mavs too?

Are you a Mavs fan?

i guess last season was his only season for the mavs his performance other playoffs dont matter

no not a mavs fan

[El Turco]

Lowry's first year at 26 with the Raptors:

PPG: 11.6
APG: 6.4
PER: 17.5

Team Record: 34-48

Other Notable Players: Julius Randle Rudy Gay and RJ Barrett DeMar DeRozan

Brunson's first year at 26 with the Knicks:

PPG: 20.8
APG: 6.2
PER: 20.4

Team Record: 17-13

Likewise, Middleton's first appearance was at age 27. Holiday made his first all defense team at 27.

Hmmmm... so if Brunson gets in this season... looks like we're ahead of schedule

lol so we moved goal posts from 2019 raptors and 2021 bucks to some other random years at some other points. not every 26 year old non all star player is going to end up a lowry or holiday, good wish though.

i guess beasley family will be proud when malik makes it to hall of fame.

Well he's having a better season than 2019 Lowry too

In any event, no. We're not arguing if the Knicks have a championship roster right now. The assertion you made is that the Knicks don't have any players who could be core players on a championship team. We've identified one player who at the same relative point in his career is ahead of players who were core players on their championship teams. He's putting up all star numbers and having an all star impact on his team right now. At a younger age than Lowry did.

And the conversation could continue even further. Quentin Grimes is substantially ahead of where Danny Green was at the same points in their careers, for example

when lowry was a core player for a championship team he was much more accomplished than brunson is. lowry being a late bloomer plays no part in brunson's projection, in fact lowry is one of the few outliers out of thousands of nba players that had such a late career trajectory. putting your hopes on brunson becoming a lowry one day is, well, like putting your hopes on james dolan owned franchise to win a nba title lol.