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Price: Wendell Carter Jr to Return on Friday 12/23

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Re: Price: Wendell Carter Jr to Return on Friday 12/23 

Post#21 » by shadrock » Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:28 am

Viper1500 wrote:As good as Mo and Moe have been, WCJ is clearly the better player. If healthy, he’s a top 15 center in this league.


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Maybe statistically better, but dont underestimate what Mo does for this team. I wouldnt be in a huge rush to drop him out of the starting 5 tbh.
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Re: Price: Wendell Carter Jr to Return on Friday 12/23 

Post#22 » by drsd » Tue Dec 20, 2022 12:15 pm

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NavalAviator94 wrote:I just read somewhere that WCJ was in the top ten of pick and roll's as well. Can't find the stat


Guessing it was this...

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And that was all with Suggs, not Fultz, at PG. Fultz is an elite PnR initiator. Carter getting the ball frees up F-Wagner and Banchero even more.
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Re: Price: Wendell Carter Jr to Return on Friday 12/23 

Post#23 » by drsd » Tue Dec 20, 2022 12:15 pm

shadrock wrote:
Viper1500 wrote:As good as Mo and Moe have been, WCJ is clearly the better player. If healthy, he’s a top 15 center in this league.


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Maybe statistically better, but dont underestimate what Mo does for this team. I wouldnt be in a huge rush to drop him out of the starting 5 tbh.


I have to assume you mean Moe (Wagner) not Mo (Bamba).


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Re: Price: Wendell Carter Jr to Return on Friday 12/23 

Post#24 » by eyriq » Tue Dec 20, 2022 1:08 pm

Def Swami wrote:I assume Bol hits the bench?
You know, looking at MP in recent games Bol does seem like the starter most vulnerable to getting benched.
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Re: Price: Wendell Carter Jr to Return on Friday 12/23 

Post#25 » by ORLMagicGirl15 » Tue Dec 20, 2022 1:35 pm

We might need him earlier than that.
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Re: Price: Wendell Carter Jr to Return on Friday 12/23 

Post#26 » by Knightro » Tue Dec 20, 2022 1:50 pm

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Def Swami wrote:I assume Bol hits the bench?
You know, looking at MP in recent games Bol does seem like the starter most vulnerable to getting benched.


I do think Bol is going to the bench, but it will be when another guard is healthy.

I think Carter's return will be a straight Carter for Moritz swap at C.

What Mosley needs to not do is get cute and try a Moritz/Carter double big lineup because it will bomb just as badly as the horrendous Bamba/Carter lineup did last year.

You play one primary ball handler, three wings and one big.

Sometimes one of the wings can also handle, sometimes one of the wings can also play big, but that's the general formula for most teams to have success.
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Re: Price: Wendell Carter Jr to Return on Friday 12/23 

Post#27 » by Knightro » Tue Dec 20, 2022 1:58 pm

drsd wrote:And that was all with Suggs, not Fultz, at PG. Fultz is an elite PnR initiator. Carter getting the ball frees up F-Wagner and Banchero even more.


Pick and roll tracking stats are admittedly a bit noisy, but Fultz has never really graded out as an elite PnR player.

He's only like 33rd percentile this year and I want to say in his career he's topped out in the 65th percentile, which is certainly good/above average, but not elite like the very best guys like Luka, Mitchell, Curry, Lillard, etc.

His inability/unwillingness to shoot when someone goes under a screen really limits his overall effectiveness as a pick and roll player.

For his career, statistically speaking Fultz has been much better in isolations than he has been initiating pick and rolls.
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Re: Price: Wendell Carter Jr to Return on Friday 12/23 

Post#28 » by JoshuaPotter » Tue Dec 20, 2022 4:16 pm

I wouldn't mind a big who understands how to box out or get a rebound coming back. I live on instant replays and stats, if its as terrible as I am observing then it can't happen soon enough.
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Re: Price: Wendell Carter Jr to Return on Friday 12/23 

Post#29 » by VFX » Tue Dec 20, 2022 4:22 pm

Carter, Suggs, and Okeke to a lesser extent, ARE the defense on this roster. When all 3 are out you have a game like last night on tired legs.

Moe W and Bamba deserve a lot of credit for stepping up over the course of the winning streak.

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