2022-23 NBA MVP Discussion (Pt.1)

[eyeatoma]

Jokic coming...

If Denver maintains No.1 seed in the West, don't see how you can't give it to Jokic again.

Carrying a bad team, leading the league in TS% and averaging 26/11/9 with the highest On/Off in the league.

The west has been pretty inconsistent this season.

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[Young gun 6]

Joker most overrated player i’ve ever seen. I used to really be a big fan of his too but it’s gotten out of control.

Not sure how anyone could think Jokic is overrated...

He passes everything. Carrying shocking roster, passes the eye test, passes the raw stats test, passes the advanced stats test.

So he has eye test, wins and stats.

If anything he's still underrated.

[yoyoboy]

Jokic for triple MVP. It's inevitable...

[Mickey8]

Stop whining your guy will win it this season and I agree this was an average performance by Jokic. He had some nice dimes but except that not really impressive.

[Young gun 6]

Stop whining your guy will win it this season and I agree this was an average performance by Jokic. He had some nice dimes but except that not really impressive.

Do you expect him to absolutely dominate every single game?

No one has even said it was a dominant performance.

Just that Denver are now #1 seed in the West.

He did also play against the best defender in the league atm in JJJ as well as another solid defender in Adams.

Can't expect 40/20/10 games every day. A simple 13/13/13 on 50% FG, +13 and a Win is just fine. Did exactly what he needed to continue his ascension up the MVP ladder (if he isn't already at the top).

[Mickey8]

Adams can't guard Jokic same with Jackson, when he wants to score, he's always having good scoring performances against Memphis. I guess today they didn't need him to score the ball because Memphis sucked so bad tonight .

[AleksandarN]

I'd love to see the hoops people jump through to justify how this pedestrian Jokic triple double is some all time MVP worthy performance.

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[AleksandarN]

Adams can't guard Jokic same with Jackson, when he wants to score, he's always having good scoring performances against Memphis. I guess today they didn't need him to score the ball because Memphis sucked so bad tonight .

That’s the value of Jokic. He doesn’t need to score to win. He pretty much was the engine to this victory over Memphis. Getting everyone involved leads to winning

[Exp0sed]

Stop whining your guy will win it this season and I agree this was an average performance by Jokic. He had some nice dimes but except that not really impressive.

lol, that's a good one

"some nice dimes"

Jokic (without hunting for stats) is averaging over 9 assists from the Center position
in his last 5 seasons (meaning the current one and the 4 before it) he is averaging 8 APG

Wilt is 2nd all time with career 4.4 APG and he did it in 46 MPG, Jokic is doing it in like 32

so you have a guy that isn't a small guard, that can play as a PG but can also get the ball on the block, at the elbow - anywhere on the court, with his face to the basket or back to the basket and can make great plays from all these spots, either scoring at an incredible efficiency or handing out "some nice dimes", more like - in never before seen frequency and quality (for a Center)

and he plays like a big man too, is a top 3 defensive rebounder in the league, leads all centers in deflections and steals

damn, that's a really valuble player, I suppose that's why the Nuggets are this good despite being just bad outside of Jokic and also why they are so bad when he's not playing

that "unimpressive" game was a dominant performance. you take Jokic out of the equation and this would have been a completely different ballgame

oh yeah, and he did it without the recovering Murray (who still sucks) and his "co star" MPJ, beat one the best teans in the league with this "unimpressive" game

personally? i'm impressed

[AleksandarN]

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[Sgt Major]

Stop whining your guy will win it this season and I agree this was an average performance by Jokic. He had some nice dimes but except that not really impressive.

lol, that's a good one

"some nice dimes"

Jokic (without hunting for stats) is averaging over 9 assists from the Center position
in his last 5 seasons (meaning the current one and the 4 before it) he is averaging 8 APG

Wilt is 2nd all time with career 4.4 APG and he did it in 46 MPG, Jokic is doing it in like 32

so you have a guy that isn't a small guard, that can play as a PG but can also get the ball on the block, at the elbow - anywhere on the court, with his face to the basket or back to the basket and can make great plays from all these spots, either scoring at an incredible efficiency or handing out "some nice dimes", more like - in never before seen frequency and quality (for a Center)

and he plays like a big man too, is a top 3 defensive rebounder in the league, leads all centers in deflections and steals

damn, that's a really valuble player, I suppose that's why the Nuggets are this good despite being just bad outside of Jokic and also why they are so bad when he's not playing

that "unimpressive" game was a dominant performance. you take Jokic out of the equation and this would have been a completely different ballgame

oh yeah, and he did it without the recovering Murray (who still sucks) and his "co star" MPJ, beat one the best teans in the league with this "unimpressive" game

personally? i'm impressed

The guy you're replying to is obsessed with Jokic's numbers even more than the Sixers fans, which is quite telling.

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[Exp0sed]

I'd love to see the hoops people jump through to justify how this pedestrian Jokic triple double is some all time MVP worthy performance.

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lol

pedestrian is when ur guy plays without his running mates he goes for 35/14 on good but not great efficiency and doesn't make any1 else better and ends up losing the game, cuz that's what happens usually when ur on ur own

but not Jokic, he has the talent (Like LBJ and other all time greats) to turn Jeff Green into an NBA player (he isn't one anymore) and turn AG into an offensive force

AG with Embiid would have been utterly marginilized (like Tobias Harris)

great perfornace by Jokic
he's smart, don't u get it?
JJJ is probably the best defender in the league and Memphis have killer help defense as well
why would he force it against that? that would not be in his team's best interest, so he picked them apart

[DCasey91]

Adams can't guard Jokic same with Jackson, when he wants to score, he's always having good scoring performances against Memphis. I guess today they didn't need him to score the ball because Memphis sucked so bad tonight .

That’s the value of Jokic. He doesn’t need to score to win. He pretty much was the engine to this victory over Memphis. Getting everyone involved leads to winning

He, Lebron and CP3 have this very rare ability where all 3 literally guides players through an offensive possession , even at the highest level others still need hand holding it’s just incredible and completely unique from a Center’s perspective.

Casual viewers or even hardcore fans won’t pick it up

[eyeatoma]

I'd love to see the hoops people jump through to justify how this pedestrian Jokic triple double is some all time MVP worthy performance.

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[AleksandarN]

Best passing big man of all time

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/ranking-nikola-jokics-best-passes-from-another-triple-double-in-nuggets-win-over-grizzlies/amp/

[Exp0sed]

Best passing big man of all time

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/ranking-nikola-jokics-best-passes-from-another-triple-double-in-nuggets-win-over-grizzlies/amp/

he's making scrubs who are good cutters, have good hands and can finish inside into so much more than they are

The Nuggets have the 3rd (!) best offensive rating - that's mostly with AG\KCP\Brown

these aren't like ball movement assists when the whole team shares the ball and eventually some1 scores on a 3 and the passer gets an assist

alot of these assists are to guys who are poor scorers (but good finishers), he's creating something out of almost nothing - and that's captured very well in his on\off as well as other advanced metrics

not all assists are alike

with that said, it can't be stated enough how easy Denver's schedule has been thus far
lots of home games as well, unless Murray can get back to a fair portion of his old self AND MPJ can be healthy and play productively, this team is still going nowhere in the playoffs despite Jokic's utter dominance

let's say he carries them to 2nd or 3rd instead of 6th and they win a round or two - they're still capped there

but that has nothing to do with MVP, he has been (again) the most valuble player to his team and in the league this season thus far, we'll see how he and they look after their schedule start evening out

[Sharkboy242]

I'd love to see the hoops people jump through to justify how this pedestrian Jokic triple double is some all time MVP worthy performance.

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Embiid could never score just 13 points and be the reason Philly won.

That’s the difference

[Statlanta]

Joker most overrated player i’ve ever seen. I used to really be a big fan of his too but it’s gotten out of control.

Who overrates him? Is it RealGM? Is it the guys on TNT? ESPN? NBA Twitter?

It's hard to see casual fans overrate a guy who can't jump, doesn't have fancy dribbles and mostly scores off of one hand flip shots.

[Andri]

Nice dimes... Wow, he just had some dimes in just last game that would be career highlights for most of the best PG's

[eyeatoma]

I'd love to see the hoops people jump through to justify how this pedestrian Jokic triple double is some all time MVP worthy performance.

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Embiid could never score just 13 points and be the reason Philly won.

That’s the difference

Against the Raptors in the Kawhi series he had some low scoring games that they won because his defense was so good.

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