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Re: Myammi Heats (.500+ team) v. The Chi, 12/20, 7:30pm 

Post#181 » by Johnny Fontane » Wed Dec 21, 2022 4:29 am

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Simply put im not going to be upset we missed out on Zach Lavine because we decided to go all in already and trade our assets for Bojan, Turner, Bey, and Dragic. That would be a massive win now move using our 3 1sts and Jovic I could get behind. That would show me this FO is doing everything it can to win before Jimmy declines.


Turner is an expiring who’s trying to get paid and Arison isn’t going to be dipping into his pockets to pay massive luxury tax. Goran and maybe Bey are the only realistic options from that list
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Post#182 » by Johnny Fontane » Wed Dec 21, 2022 4:31 am

Just thinking about ways to improve this roster is mind numbing. The easy cop out is just blow it all up
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Re: Myammi Heats (.500+ team) v. The Chi, 12/20, 7:30pm 

Post#183 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Wed Dec 21, 2022 4:32 am

Pharenheit wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Simply put im not going to be upset we missed out on Zach Lavine because we decided to go all in already and trade our assets for Bojan, Turner, Bey, and Dragic. That would be a massive win now move using our 3 1sts and Jovic I could get behind. That would show me this FO is doing everything it can to win before Jimmy declines.


Turner is an expiring who’s trying to get paid and Arison isn’t going to be dipping into his pockets to pay massive luxury tax. Goran and maybe Bey are the only realistic options from that list


Flip salary and pay him to a solid contract. He’s a long term fit next to Bam, something a lot of us have wanted. He’s not going to get as much as he wants on the open market
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Post#184 » by HeatFanLifer » Wed Dec 21, 2022 7:23 am

OP giveth +.500% and OP taketh
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Re: Myammi Heats (.500+ team) v. The Chi, 12/20, 7:30pm 

Post#185 » by Hallstar » Wed Dec 21, 2022 9:38 am

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:No Jimmy Lowry or Caleb and Bam and Herro still went below their season averages for shot attempts for the game even after jacking up a few in garbage time :lol:

Didn't catch the game, but that boxscore pissed me off on sight. This equal opportunity stuff is not a winning formula when dealing with subpar talent. Ride the talent you do have.
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Post#186 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Wed Dec 21, 2022 2:45 pm

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3ammy3uck3ts wrote:No Jimmy Lowry or Caleb and Bam and Herro still went below their season averages for shot attempts for the game even after jacking up a few in garbage time :lol:

Didn't catch the game, but that boxscore pissed me off on sight. This equal opportunity stuff is not a winning formula when dealing with subpar talent. Ride the talent you do have.


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Post#187 » by al bondiga » Wed Dec 21, 2022 3:05 pm

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3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Jimmy really only has like 20 more games played than AD (Always Doubtful” over the last 4 seasons. That’s wild


We are so lucky Jimmy has been healthy come playoff time.
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Post#188 » by ShulaDon92 » Wed Dec 21, 2022 3:27 pm

Whatever Jimmy's doing is working for the most part. Anthony Davis...yikes
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Post#189 » by carnageta » Wed Dec 21, 2022 5:12 pm

Ya'll already know what I'm going to say.

something something equal opportunity offense something something.

something something live and die by the production of d-league affiliates something something.

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Post#190 » by carnageta » Wed Dec 21, 2022 5:19 pm

No Jimmy and no Lowry? Great, let's give 9 of their shots to Max Strus and 12 to Duncan Robinson. Bam, since you're our most efficient scorer, lets ensure that you only take your seasonal average of 15. And Tyler, since you're our best scorer, lets ensure you only take your seasonal average of 16.

Max and Duncan combined 5/21 from the field.

Bam and Herro combined 19/31 from the field.

For the season, Max and Duncan combine for 17 fga per game.

For the season, Bam and Herro combine for 31fga per game.



I"LL ASK THE QUESTION AGAIN, when we're down our best player and our 'hall of fame QB' why on earth are Bam and Herro not getting majority of their shots? Bam and Herro combine for 31 fga per game on the season, and tonight they took only 31 despite missing Butler (who attempts 14 per game, and Lowry who attempts 11 per game). Why are we relying on d-league role players to come up big as opposed to relying on our best players to deliver when called upon?
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Re: Myammi Heats (.500+ team) v. The Chi, 12/20, 7:30pm 

Post#191 » by MHeat0279 » Wed Dec 21, 2022 5:38 pm

Riley should have retired a long time ago, as long as he is here our below average coach will be coaching our team into mediocrity. Riley was a very good coach and did a very good job directing the team until a few years ago. Spoelstra has always been a mediocre coach ( still dont understand the fixation from some of you in regards to him ) I have always said we won what we won in spite of Spo not because of him. Not a lot of good options out there, meanwhile this team should tank and hope to get a difference maker in the draft, dont be fooled this team will not win a Championship.
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Post#192 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Wed Dec 21, 2022 5:40 pm

carnageta wrote:No Jimmy and no Lowry? Great, let's give 9 of their shots to Max Strus and 12 to Duncan Robinson. Bam, since you're our most efficient scorer, lets ensure that you only take your seasonal average of 15. And Tyler, since you're our best scorer, lets ensure you only take your seasonal average of 16.

Max and Duncan combined 5/21 from the field.

Bam and Herro combined 19/31 from the field.

For the season, Max and Duncan combine for 17 fga per game.

For the season, Bam and Herro combine for 31fga per game.



I"LL ASK THE QUESTION AGAIN, when we're down our best player and our 'hall of fame QB' why on earth are Bam and Herro not getting majority of their shots? Bam and Herro combine for 31 fga per game on the season, and tonight they took only 31 despite missing Butler (who attempts 14 per game, and Lowry who attempts 11 per game). Why are we relying on d-league role players to come up big as opposed to relying on our best players to deliver when called upon?


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Post#193 » by AirP. » Wed Dec 21, 2022 5:50 pm

MHeat0279 wrote:Riley should have retired a long time ago, as long as he is here our below average coach will be coaching our team into mediocrity. Riley was a very good coach and did a very good job directing the team until a few years ago. Spoelstra has always been a mediocre coach ( still dont understand the fixation from some of you in regards to him ) I have always said we won what we won in spite of Spo not because of him. Not a lot of good options out there, meanwhile this team should tank and hope to get a difference maker in the draft, dont be fooled this team will not win a Championship.

Interesting, so you're saying Miami would have done as well or better with a lot of "average" coaches the last 3 1/2 seasons?

I'd argue Spoelstra is getting way more out of this roster including developing some of the undrafted players into NBA players. He's headed into 3 of the last 4 seasons with the FO giving him L.Meyers, M.Harkless and C.Martin as the best option to start at PF which is a terrible situation to be in. Also... they limit his roster to 14 players with one of the 14 being a 40 year old.

There's a lot of horrible coaches out there and then there are also a lot of coaches that are handicapped by their FO or by the owner from coaching the way they want to. Spoelstra and the FO may have some restrictions on them that he'll never really talk about because that's how you lose your current job and restrict your chances at landing another job.
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Post#194 » by unowen85 » Wed Dec 21, 2022 6:23 pm

Quite frankly, the inability that some people have to criticize Spo seems kinda culty. Like imagine thinking no other coach would be able to have better results than Spo. We’re losing to teams that are actively trying to tank. Where is the bar, folks?
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Post#195 » by Tony15 » Wed Dec 21, 2022 10:20 pm

unowen85 wrote:Quite frankly, the inability that some people have to criticize Spo seems kinda culty. Like imagine thinking no other coach would be able to have better results than Spo. We’re losing to teams that are actively trying to tank. Where is the bar, folks?

I see your point, but let's face it....we fire Spo, and other teams would fire their head coach to hire him. Spo is last on the list of problems this team has. He's stubborn af & his rotations frustrate me at times, but he's easily a top 3-5 coach.

1) We're small as ****
2) Butler isn't available consistently
3) Too many specialists
4) Lowry is old, and we don't have a quality backup

Spo maxed out this roster last season....and we did nothing to improve it. This is the first time I've experienced betrayal as a HEAT fan. Like the FO just mailed it in and said **** it. No amount of Herro/Bam ascension is gonna be enough to sniff the ECF this season.
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Re: Myammi Heats (.500+ team) v. The Chi, 12/20, 7:30pm 

Post#196 » by IceColdCubano » Wed Dec 21, 2022 11:28 pm

Tony15 wrote:
unowen85 wrote:Quite frankly, the inability that some people have to criticize Spo seems kinda culty. Like imagine thinking no other coach would be able to have better results than Spo. We’re losing to teams that are actively trying to tank. Where is the bar, folks?

I see your point, but let's face it....we fire Spo, and other teams would fire their head coach to hire him. Spo is last on the list of problems this team has. He's stubborn af & his rotations frustrate me at times, but he's easily a top 3-5 coach.

1) We're small as ****
2) Butler isn't available consistently
3) Too many specialists
4) Lowry is old, and we don't have a quality backup

Spo maxed out this roster last season....and we did nothing to improve it. This is the first time I've experienced betrayal as a HEAT fan. Like the FO just mailed it in and said **** it. No amount of Herro/Bam ascension is gonna be enough to sniff the ECF this season.

A first round out team is exactly what will take I believe for them to buy in on completely moving on from this core. Until it completely falls flat their vision is its enough just needs minor tweeks.
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Post#197 » by Flash4thewin » Thu Dec 22, 2022 12:53 am

IceColdCubano wrote:
Tony15 wrote:
unowen85 wrote:Quite frankly, the inability that some people have to criticize Spo seems kinda culty. Like imagine thinking no other coach would be able to have better results than Spo. We’re losing to teams that are actively trying to tank. Where is the bar, folks?

I see your point, but let's face it....we fire Spo, and other teams would fire their head coach to hire him. Spo is last on the list of problems this team has. He's stubborn af & his rotations frustrate me at times, but he's easily a top 3-5 coach.

1) We're small as ****
2) Butler isn't available consistently
3) Too many specialists
4) Lowry is old, and we don't have a quality backup

Spo maxed out this roster last season....and we did nothing to improve it. This is the first time I've experienced betrayal as a HEAT fan. Like the FO just mailed it in and said **** it. No amount of Herro/Bam ascension is gonna be enough to sniff the ECF this season.

A first round out team is exactly what will take I believe for them to buy in on completely moving on from this core. Until it completely falls flat their vision is its enough just needs minor tweeks.


If we even make it to the playoffs, this team has the makeup of a team that will get swept off the court.
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Re: Myammi Heats (.500+ team) v. The Chi, 12/20, 7:30pm 

Post#198 » by MHeat0279 » Thu Dec 22, 2022 4:08 pm

AirP. wrote:
MHeat0279 wrote:Riley should have retired a long time ago, as long as he is here our below average coach will be coaching our team into mediocrity. Riley was a very good coach and did a very good job directing the team until a few years ago. Spoelstra has always been a mediocre coach ( still dont understand the fixation from some of you in regards to him ) I have always said we won what we won in spite of Spo not because of him. Not a lot of good options out there, meanwhile this team should tank and hope to get a difference maker in the draft, dont be fooled this team will not win a Championship.

Interesting, so you're saying Miami would have done as well or better with a lot of "average" coaches the last 3 1/2 seasons?

I'd argue Spoelstra is getting way more out of this roster including developing some of the undrafted players into NBA players. He's headed into 3 of the last 4 seasons with the FO giving him L.Meyers, M.Harkless and C.Martin as the best option to start at PF which is a terrible situation to be in. Also... they limit his roster to 14 players with one of the 14 being a 40 year old.

There's a lot of horrible coaches out there and then there are also a lot of coaches that are handicapped by their FO or by the owner from coaching the way they want to. Spoelstra and the FO may have some restrictions on them that he'll never really talk about because that's how you lose your current job and restrict your chances at landing another job.


Unfortunately the league has a serious lack of competent coaches, i think i implied that in my original post.
No, i dont think he is getting the best out of his players, it seems the botched time outs, senseless substitutions, his enfatuation with small ball when he knows we dont have the propel personnel to play such style of game. This current team is not a championship team but is not a below .500 team like we currently are. Game plan is bad, ingame adjustments are bad and his common sense seems took a flight in an A380
So, yeah i dont think he is a good coach at all.

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