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Re: 2023 NBA Draft 

Post#181 » by Hal14 » Tue Dec 13, 2022 8:49 pm

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165bows wrote:Adama Sanogo seems like he might be able to morph into a poor man’s Paul Millsap. He’d be on my second round radar.

He's an interesting prospect. Coming into the season I saw him as more of a guy who's a good college player but not really a fit in the NBA, due to having more of an old school back to the basket type of game, not great athleticism, mobility or rim protection for a big, can't shoot/pass/drive.

But this season he has shown some flashes of hitting 3's and also driving to the rim and even change of direction on the drive with some euro step and step through moves which is intriguing, especially since he is still pretty young and does have a high motor.

IDK if I'd draft him right now, but worth keeping an eye on as the season goes on..

Yeah it's a weird thing with age. Obviously the same production at a younger age is better, but at some level, a lot of improvement over time has got to be worth something. I think he'd make more sense with the later of their picks, but who knows if he keeps up what he is doing he may look a little different. I suppose a lot also hinges on the defense as well, couldn't speak to that that well.

Yeah his defense seems to be ok. Good not great defensively and with rim protection. Seems like more of a drop big but I've seen times here and there where he comes out to challenge shots out on the perimeter.

If he keeps making improvements, could be worth a 2nd round flier. That UConn team has been playing really freaking hard. They're on a mission, a bunch of dogs. So can't go wrong grabbing 1 of them.

Andre Jackson has gotten some love in this thread, but another UConn guy to keep an eye on is Alex Karaban. 6'8", tough, hard nosed, scrappy player. Good cutter, strong finisher inside, shooting 40% from 3 on 4 attempts per game, good passer, solid defender. Just turned 20 so still fairly young.
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Re: 2023 NBA Draft 

Post#182 » by 165bows » Tue Dec 13, 2022 8:58 pm

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Hal14 wrote:He's an interesting prospect. Coming into the season I saw him as more of a guy who's a good college player but not really a fit in the NBA, due to having more of an old school back to the basket type of game, not great athleticism, mobility or rim protection for a big, can't shoot/pass/drive.

But this season he has shown some flashes of hitting 3's and also driving to the rim and even change of direction on the drive with some euro step and step through moves which is intriguing, especially since he is still pretty young and does have a high motor.

IDK if I'd draft him right now, but worth keeping an eye on as the season goes on..

Yeah it's a weird thing with age. Obviously the same production at a younger age is better, but at some level, a lot of improvement over time has got to be worth something. I think he'd make more sense with the later of their picks, but who knows if he keeps up what he is doing he may look a little different. I suppose a lot also hinges on the defense as well, couldn't speak to that that well.

Yeah his defense seems to be ok. Good not great defensively and with rim protection. Seems like more of a drop big but I've seen times here and there where he comes out to challenge shots out on the perimeter.

If he keeps making improvements, could be worth a 2nd round flier. That UConn team has been playing really freaking hard. They're on a mission, a bunch of dogs. So can't go wrong grabbing 1 of them.

Andre Jackson has gotten some love in this thread, but another UConn guy to keep an eye on is Alex Karaban. 6'8", tough, hard nosed, scrappy player. Good cutter, strong finisher inside, shooting 40% from 3 on 4 attempts per game, good passer, solid defender. Just turned 20 so still fairly young.

Our buddy Dean :wink: thought Karaban had a shot at being a role player, albeit unathletic.

Though maybe they should package all the second round picks and the rest of the draft and stashes/JD and try to get high enough to land Filipowski. Seems like he would fit the play style of this team as a big with good perimeter D and some shooting. THey don't really have room to roster all these guys either so that would help in that sense.
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Post#183 » by Hal14 » Wed Dec 14, 2022 4:38 pm

Cool article about Berke Büyüktuncel, a potential 2nd round pick. If we took him, he'd likely be stashed overseas for a year or 2.

https://www.eurohoops.net/en/trademarks/1433497/berke-buyuktuncel-the-latest-top-product-of-turkish-basketball/

If he reaches his potential, he could be like a 6'9" version of Grant Williams.
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Post#184 » by Hal14 » Mon Dec 19, 2022 2:11 am

Kevin McCullar Jr. Remember the name.

Brad already knows the name - KMJ worked out for us before the draft a few months ago, before he decided to do college for another year.

A wing with 5% steal rate, 2.6% block rate, one of the best defenders in college basketball. Shooting 36.1% from 3. Good cutter, plays HARD, pushes the pace. Good passer.

He's pretty quick.

And he's tough as nails.

Wouldn't hate grabbing him in the 2nd round.
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Post#185 » by BK_2020 » Mon Dec 19, 2022 2:23 am

Is the 2023 pick protected?
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Post#186 » by Justin33 » Mon Dec 19, 2022 4:11 am

Bryce Hopkins a Kentucky transfer now at PC is under the radar now but is going to be a problem for the Big East.An inside/outside forward 15.7 8.6 shooting 38.5 from 3 ;ab_channel=TremendousUpside
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Re: 2023 NBA Draft 

Post#187 » by Hal14 » Tue Dec 20, 2022 4:21 pm

Someone else brought up Coleman Hawkins earlier.

He might be the guy.

Here he is carving up the Syracuse zone, en route to a triple double..maybe he could carve up the Heat's zone too!


Last season in the NCAA tournament, with the block and then the rebound to seal the win. We could have used that the other day vs Orlando at the end of the game. Am I right?
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/HdrcVCiVH6E

I like the versatility of being able to play the 4 or the 5. He's 6'10", good all around game. Good passer. Can shoot and drive it pretty well. Plays with a swagger and a toughness.

He could be the long term Horford replacement..

Read on Twitter
?s=20&t=b5eJnk0jKfNf3dGsjGQuZw

He could possibly end up going 1st round but i think most mocks have him going in the 2nd..
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Post#188 » by playa-hater » Wed Dec 21, 2022 1:31 am

Hal14 wrote:Someone else brought up Coleman Hawkins earlier.

He might be the guy.

Here he is carving up the Syracuse zone, en route to a triple double:


Last season in the NCAA tournament, with the block and then the rebound to seal the win. We could have used that the other day vs Orlando at the end of the game. Am I right?
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/HdrcVCiVH6E

I like the versatility of being able to play the 4 or the 5. He's 6'10", good all around game. Good passer. Can shoot and drive it pretty well. Plays with a swagger and a toughness.

He could be the long term Horford replacement..

Read on Twitter
?s=20&t=b5eJnk0jKfNf3dGsjGQuZw


If he is
As good as described then there's no chance he last to any of our pics.
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Post#189 » by Hal14 » Wed Dec 21, 2022 2:04 am

playa-hater wrote:
Hal14 wrote:Someone else brought up Coleman Hawkins earlier.

He might be the guy.

Here he is carving up the Syracuse zone, en route to a triple double:


Last season in the NCAA tournament, with the block and then the rebound to seal the win. We could have used that the other day vs Orlando at the end of the game. Am I right?
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/HdrcVCiVH6E

I like the versatility of being able to play the 4 or the 5. He's 6'10", good all around game. Good passer. Can shoot and drive it pretty well. Plays with a swagger and a toughness.

He could be the long term Horford replacement..

Read on Twitter
?s=20&t=b5eJnk0jKfNf3dGsjGQuZw


If he is
As good as described then there's no chance he last to any of our pics.

IDK. Maybe. It's a deep draft class. And we sometimes see some really good players fall into the 2nd round - just like every year, there's dudes taken in the 1st round who were reaches.

This mock has Coleman Hawkins going 37th, to the Thunder:

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10056355-2023-nba-mock-draft-updated-full-2-round-predictions

According to this, our first pick would be 33rd so he could be there when we pick:
https://www.tankathon.com/full_draft

He's projected to go a little lower, probably because he's a little older (just turned 21, so will be 21 on draft night and turn 22 during rookie year), he's good good but not great athleticism, good but not great shooter...I've got him 23rd at the moment on my big board though..
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Post#190 » by djFan71 » Wed Dec 21, 2022 2:29 am

I know this isn't helpful, but can we get Charlie Parker too? We have 3 picks.



Again, sorry, just can't hear that name without thinking this. I refrained a couple of times, believe it or not.
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Post#191 » by Hal14 » Wed Dec 21, 2022 2:57 am

djFan71 wrote:I know this isn't helpful, but can we get Charlie Parker too? We have 3 picks.



Again, sorry, just can't hear that name without thinking this. I refrained a couple of times, believe it or not.

lol maybe he was named after that guy
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Post#192 » by 165bows » Wed Dec 21, 2022 2:01 pm

djFan71 wrote:I know this isn't helpful, but can we get Charlie Parker too? We have 3 picks.



Again, sorry, just can't hear that name without thinking this. I refrained a couple of times, believe it or not.

Haha that was me earlier. He's not a prolific scorer, and just a mediocre shooter (though he might have a little range). Has great assist numbers for a 6' 10" big, you can see in the clips how he would fit in the Celtics' schemes. Has a high turnover rate but he's def in the mix for me if they keep (get) that Houston pick.
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Post#193 » by Hal14 » Wed Dec 21, 2022 2:58 pm

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djFan71 wrote:I know this isn't helpful, but can we get Charlie Parker too? We have 3 picks.



Again, sorry, just can't hear that name without thinking this. I refrained a couple of times, believe it or not.

Haha that was me earlier. He's not a prolific scorer, and just a mediocre shooter (though he might have a little range). Has great assist numbers for a 6' 10" big, you can see in the clips how he would fit in the Celtics' schemes. Has a high turnover rate but he's def in the mix for me if they keep (get) that Houston pick.

I actually like his upside as a shooter. He showed good shooting flashes in HS. And I've seen him it some big 3's at Illinois, he's hit some deep, NBA range 3's (in HS and in college), and a decent amount of his 3's are off the dribble too.

Plus he seems like a hard worker, which paired with our staff that is good at helping guys with their shooting, I am pretty confident he can be at least an average shooter in the NBA.

I really like his potential fit here. I just don't want to get my hopes up too much because last year's draft I wanted us to take a 21 year old PF/C who I had ranked as a top 25 prospect but we didn't pick him (Yoan Makoundou) and he didn't even get drafted lol
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Post#194 » by Hal14 » Fri Dec 23, 2022 11:54 pm

The latest bonkers play from Wembanyama:
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And the guy who at the moment is looking like the 3rd pick, he's a freak. 6'7" and only 19 yrs old..
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Post#195 » by Hal14 » Sat Dec 24, 2022 12:00 am

If we don't get Coleman Hawkins, a nice backup plan could be Zach Freemantle.

Freemantle is a year older than Hawkins and not quite as good, and 1" shorter. But Freemantle is close to as good as Hawkins at everything - and he's a better rebounder.

Freemantle at this point looks like he'll go undrafted. But could potentially be a really good UDFA pickup. VERY good passer for a big, can play the 4 or the 5. Good rebounder, decent rim protector. Really good shooting touch around the basket (and in the mid range). Hustles, good fundamentals, high basketball IQ, and shows some flashes of shooting from 3 and attacking closeouts. He's 6'9" with a sturdy/strong built and moves pretty quick out there..

If Freemantle plays well 2nd half of the season, I could even see grabbing him in the 2nd round, if hawkins is off the board..
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Post#196 » by Hal14 » Sat Dec 24, 2022 4:48 am

teams who are tanking and will get a high draft pick. 1 of them will probably get Wembanyama:

Hornets
Spurs
Pistons
Rockets
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Post#197 » by 165bows » Sat Dec 24, 2022 8:14 pm

Hal14 wrote:If we don't get Coleman Hawkins, a nice backup plan could be Zach Freemantle.

Freemantle is a year old than Hawkins and not quite as good, and 1" shorter. But Freemantle is close to as good as Hawkins at everything - and he's a better rebounder.

Freemantle at this point looks like he'll go undrafted. But could potentially be a really good UDFA pickup. VERY good passer for a big, can play the 4 or the 5. Good rebounder, decent rim protector. Really good shooting touch around the basket (and in the mid range). Hustles, good fundamentals, high basketball IQ, and shows some flashes of shooting from 3 and attacking closeouts. He's 6'9" with a sturdy/strong built and moves pretty quick out there..

If Freemantle plays well 2nd half of the season, I could even see grabbing him in the 2nd round, if hawkins is off the board..

I think there’s definitely a role on this team for a backup in the Draymond/Pj Tucker mold. I don’t even care if he can shoot or block shots, but someone who can play some backup C while being a great versatile defender, rebounder and passer.
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Post#198 » by Hal14 » Mon Dec 26, 2022 8:35 pm

Someone else brought up Colby Jones from Xavier earlier in the thread.

I've been catching up on some Xavier games..and Jones is really growing on me.

Very high basketball IQ guy, good fundamentals. For a non-PG, he's a very good passer. Good cutter, mid range game with some hostage dribble moves, some floaters, turnaround jumpers in the mid range. Shooting over 40% from 3.

He also has a strong frame. A sturdy 6'6" wing. Pretty good defender.

Just one of those wings who is a solid all round player, and I can see him being a solid role player in the league. Probably not going 1st round - could be a nice pick in the 2nd round.
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Post#199 » by Jstock12 » Tue Dec 27, 2022 12:41 am

Hal14 wrote:Someone else brought up Coleman Hawkins earlier.

He might be the guy.

Here he is carving up the Syracuse zone, en route to a triple double..maybe he could carve up the Heat's zone too!


Last season in the NCAA tournament, with the block and then the rebound to seal the win. We could have used that the other day vs Orlando at the end of the game. Am I right?
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/HdrcVCiVH6E

I like the versatility of being able to play the 4 or the 5. He's 6'10", good all around game. Good passer. Can shoot and drive it pretty well. Plays with a swagger and a toughness.

He could be the long term Horford replacement..

Read on Twitter
?s=20&t=b5eJnk0jKfNf3dGsjGQuZw

He could possibly end up going 1st round but i think most mocks have him going in the 2nd..


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Post#200 » by 165bows » Tue Dec 27, 2022 2:15 am

Hal14 wrote:Someone else brought up Colby Jones from Xavier earlier in the thread.

I've been catching up on some Xavier games..and Jones is really growing on me.

Very high basketball IQ guy, good fundamentals. For a non-PG, he's a very good passer. Good cutter, mid range game with some hostage dribble moves, some floaters, turnaround jumpers in the mid range. Shooting over 40% from 3.

He also has a strong frame. A sturdy 6'6" wing. Pretty good defender.

Just one of those wings who is a solid all round player, and I can see him being a solid role player in the league. Probably not going 1st round - could be a nice pick in the 2nd round.

Obviously can’t project that level but as a player type he seems very Brogdon-ish.

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