Pistons-Hawks (7:30)

[zeebneeb]

Hell to the fricken no. He is not worth a top 3 pick in this draft. He is not that good.

Wembanyama, Scoot, Amen, Whitmore all have realistic higher floors than OG. All could conceivably be all nba type players. OG is a one piece away type move that we are no where close to. He’s a borderline all star player.

This is the stuff that scares me into thinking we’re going to rush it. I’m not trading a top 3 pick unless it’s an established all star that’s near all nba caliber.

If the suns blow things up and we really wanted to win now I’d figure something out with them and pair Cade with Booker.

Fair enough, ill pass the buck to you then.

Would you trade the pick now for Booker, or would you wait until you know it's not #1, and what pick would you trade for Booker? #2, #3?

I don’t think either side would until the pick is known.

Would I? No. I don’t mind the rebuild process and could wait.

If I were GM and the owner demanded winning, I would do it. Booker, Cade, Duren, Stewart and get a good three and D wing and fill out a bench and that’s a good playoff team that’s only getting better with tons of cap space.

Booker is an all nba player that has potential to be a mvp candidate. OG never will.

PHX, to me, is really close to blowing the whole thing up. Paul is the engine that runs the show, and to say he's on the decline is being generous. I firmly believe that PHX would/will move Booker for the right price, and the #2 pick, for Booker(and matching salary of course)

Great reset with Scoot/Ayton for them.

Still doesn't solve the SF problem, but a lineup of;

Cade
Booker
Bojan
Stew
Duren

Looks good to me.(depending on who you gotta ship out to match salaries)

[FloridaMan78]

Fair enough, ill pass the buck to you then.

Would you trade the pick now for Booker, or would you wait until you know it's not #1, and what pick would you trade for Booker? #2, #3?

I don’t think either side would until the pick is known.

Would I? No. I don’t mind the rebuild process and could wait.

If I were GM and the owner demanded winning, I would do it. Booker, Cade, Duren, Stewart and get a good three and D wing and fill out a bench and that’s a good playoff team that’s only getting better with tons of cap space.

Booker is an all nba player that has potential to be a mvp candidate. OG never will.

PHX, to me, is really close to blowing the whole thing up. Paul is the engine that runs the show, and to say he's on the decline is being generous. I firmly believe that PHX would/will move Booker for the right price, and the #2 pick, for Booker(and matching salary of course)

Great reset with Scoot/Ayton for them.

Still doesn't solve the SF problem, but a lineup of;

Cade
Booker
Bojan
Stew
Duren

Looks good to me.(depending on who you gotta ship out to match salaries)

Yea I agree. I could see it being done in the off-season if we get the second pick.

2nd pick and Ivey for Booker and Cam Johnson. We could absorb their salaries with our capspace.

[edmunder_prc]

Pistons take Scoot and hope he has superstar potential that they would control for a long time.

This team is still all question marks so making win now moves is a bad idea. I would want to see Cade play a whole season and looks good before any long term, win now things happen.

Again look at the NYK, ATL - they are a much better team than the Pistons but get stomped by BOS, MIL in the playoffs.

Pistons are 2 years away from being 2 years away. Best two players are Cade, young and injured - and Bojan, old and needs to be traded.

[Canadafan]

I have to say at this point I still don't understand why Casey has a job. While I can only stomach a few minutes of Pistons here and there, you see a team that does not understand how to rotate defensively and yet will switch constantly to the point of confusion and trap players. It's a hot mess that is just easy to pick apart. Some of that is youth in Casey's defense, but the players a) don't look like they understand what to do and b) don't look like they want to do it.

I'd say he's been told to properly guide us to a top5 pick this summer. Then again I'm a bit of a conspiracy theorist

[buzzkilloton]

You guys are talking like Weavers boss Gores is going to allow us to just sit back and build through the draft for years. I dont think thats the case at all anymore. Reading what the FO is saying to Edwards about keeping BB for the playoff push next season that to me sounds like a team who is done with this asset collection phase of the team building and wants to start winning. Whats coming out this year is quite a bit diff then what I heard last year at this time.

[zeebneeb]

You guys are talking like Weavers boss Gores is going to allow us to just sit back and build through the draft for years. I dont think thats the case at all anymore. Reading what the FO is saying to Edwards about keeping BB for the playoff push next season that to me sounds like a team who is done with this asset collection phase of the team building and wants to start winning. Whats coming out this year is quite a bit diff then what I heard last year at this time.

I've gone over this on great detail already, but at some point, the expectations will change, and that is coming up, really damn fast. There is no way the Pistons can be this bad next year. It has to change.

[NYPiston]

You guys are talking like Weavers boss Gores is going to allow us to just sit back and build through the draft for years. I dont think thats the case at all anymore. Reading what the FO is saying to Edwards about keeping BB for the playoff push next season that to me sounds like a team who is done with this asset collection phase of the team building and wants to start winning. Whats coming out this year is quite a bit diff then what I heard last year at this time.

They've had 20,20 and 23 wins the last 3 seasons and might even have less this season. That's 3+ seasons of sitting back and building through the draft. I only say 3+ because the first 20 win season was just the start of the teardown.
How much longer should they sit back and continue to float in the toilet of the league? Other young teams that were steeped in rebuild are already showing signs of improvement while the Pistons are still stuck in neutral. Cleveland, OKC, Orlando is starting to come out of it a bit.
Granted, the Cade injury really stunted this seasons' growth but, at some point, they need to start advancing this "process" and this offseason should be the beginning of that. It seems like the Bojan addition was a small part of moving in that direction but obviously they need a lot more to be really competitive. They can do this without selling the farm if done smartly.