ReginaldDwight wrote: Hopefully Nixon and Watson are good to go.
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ReginaldDwight wrote: Hopefully Nixon and Watson are good to go.
coolhandluke121 wrote:PintSizedBox10 wrote:coolhandluke121 wrote:
Pretty insane to act like Rodgers hasn't continued to play mediocre as hell while all those parts around him have played much, much better.
Bottom 10 is a lot different than mediocre. I'd also love to hear which offensive players have played much, much better as of late in your opinion.
Mediocre is pretty ambiguous/broad and can include the high end of the bottom 10. And I'm not saying particular players have played better, I'm saying as units they've been better - e.g., by Jenkins returning to form, Watson returning from injury emerging as an absolutely deadly weapon, Zach Tom emerging as a really solid LT and an upgrade over the corpse of Bakhtiari, Doubs being back, etc.
And still Rodgers is playing just as poorly. His numbers are getting a little better because the rest of the offense is getting better, but he's still throwing terrible interceptions, overthrowing wide open receivers by several yards, holding the ball way too long instead of throwing it away, not seeing wide open receivers, and misfiring even on short throws. The play of the rest of the offense has helped his numbers, but he's still playing poorly.
Just because the rest of the offense was trash for the first half of the season doesn't mean his continued poor play should be excused. It's not trash anymore and yet he's still doing the same crap. Most starting QB's and probably 8-10 backups could have done at least as well as he's done under the circumstances.
PintSizedBox10 wrote:
I was with you until this part. Like c'mon. The offense is ranked 7th in DVOA over the past 5 weeks and you're telling me every QB and 8-10 backups would have led GB to this same success? Sorry, but that's just crazy talk.
the_urre14 wrote:So your conclusion is that the offense is carrying Rodgers right? To tell that Packers would be better with random guys like Daniel Jones or Ryan Tannehill is just insane.
coolhandluke121 wrote:the_urre14 wrote:So your conclusion is that the offense is carrying Rodgers right? To tell that Packers would be better with random guys like Daniel Jones or Ryan Tannehill is just insane.
I mean, yes. Like, definitely. He's not playing well, period. That's obvious just watching him. And he wasn't great the last two years either, although he was much better than he is this year. An amazing supporting cast carried him to two MVP's and the scheme made his job easy. Don't know why the play-calling went to **** this year, but it was excellent the last two years, as were the WR's, RB's, and OL.
ETA: Daniel Jones clearly outplayed Rodgers head-to-head this year, regardless of supporting casts. Several other scrubs and back-ups have done the same, and I'm not the only one who said so. Go look in those game threads for a reminder of how badly Rodgers played, because you obviously don't remember the games and you're just abstractly blaming it on his supporting cast.
PintSizedBox10 wrote:85 TDS and 9 INTS over 2 seasons isn't good to Coolluke, so no wonder he thinks Rodgers is now playing worse than most QBs and backups haha
the_urre14 wrote:If you keep thinking that last 2 years anyone could have been the MVP in this Packer team and that with this years receiving corp, OL play and schematic flaws you put a rookie with 1 start in his career or another mediocre quarterback and would be playing better than Rodgers, you are either Peter Bukowski (a hater) or you have no clue (with all my respect). Last year Jordan Love was able to put an outstanding 7 POINTS with the same team that you say anyone could carry and win the MVP. One thing is to say that this is not the 28 year old Rodgers who could carry a crappy team with a s**t defense to the Conference Championship game, and another thing is to say that he is a bottom 10 QB.
The Green Bay Packers have placed DL Dean Lowry on injured reserve, signed WR Bo Melton to the active roster from the Seattle Seahawks' practice squad, and released LB Tipa Galeai (tee-puh nah-lee-eye) from injured reserve. General Manager Brian Gutekunst announced the transactions Tuesday.
Flames24Rulz wrote:Wyatt getting to play instead of Lowry feels like a pretty big W.