List of 7 footers as mobile as Wiseman that failed to become starter quality players

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Re: List of 7 footers as mobile as Wiseman that failed to become starter quality players 

Post#21 » by SHAQ32 » Wed Dec 28, 2022 2:03 am

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Re: List of 7 footers as mobile as Wiseman that failed to become starter quality players 

Post#22 » by prolific passer » Wed Dec 28, 2022 2:35 am

SinceGatlingWasARookie wrote:
Owly wrote:
prolific passer wrote:Jordan wanted Dawkins but Krause drafted Sellers instead and passed up on Rodman, Salley, Mark Price and probably some other options that ended up being better than good old Brad.

Krause passed up on a lot of good talents in his drafts outside of 87.

I think there should tend to be the preface "X said .... long after the fact". And whilst Sellers did indeed ultimately fail (a generous angle might note his rookie box is comparable to, arguably better than depending on choice of metric, Pippen's) it didn't really matter to the Bulls as they flipped him for the Armstrong pick, a better fit with MJ and healthier than Dawkins.

Salley as an option is legitimate. Rodman and Price were second round picks. You could kill every GM for passing on those two, Sabonis, Hornacek, McMillan, Drazen, Newman, Duckworth, Otis Smith... or we can accept that (a) drafting is not an exact science, (b) resources/tools for player assessment were more limited back then and/or (c) nobody with enough stroke to get something done felt any of those were worth using their first round pick on.

Krause was better in the trade market flipping non-useful players to build up that pick pool. But the results weren't bad in building the original dynasty. Pippen, Grant and Kukoc were all pretty big hits. King was a flop (at 6, though iiirc, he was a consensus-y pick there felt to have dropped even to get to them and the immediate following picks aren't much better, and like Sellers was flipped into a useful piece, Longley). Williams might count as a find if you count him as draft equivalent. Other 1sts produced solid players Oakley (functionally picked by them), Armstrong, Perdue Later, in the 90s, at the back of the first round, trying add stuff to an established team he couldn't get much to stick.

In retrospect everyone ever "passed up" on a lot of good talent. That's the way it goes if you get one pick ant the field gets, say, 40. That probably isn't a fair measuring stick though.



I think Dawkins was a better player than Armstrong until injuries hit. When Sellers was drafted it was not known yet that Jordan fit better with shooting point guards than with playmaking point guards. Without Pippen playmaking from a point guard would have had some value for Jordan. Dawkins was not a spot up shooter like Hodges, Paxson, Armstrong and Kerr. Dawkins was not particularly a playmaker. Dawkins was a scorer.

Dawkins wasn't a spot up shooter but Mark Price was. Imagine a Price/Jordan backcourt. Price used to kill the bulls point guards like Jordan used to with the Cavs shooting guards.

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