Heathy Rotation with Maxey

[ProcessDoctor]

These 3 guard lineups are killing me. We are already TRASH at rebounding with two forwards who are good at rebounding in the lineup. What do you think's going to happen if we take one of those forwards out of the lineup?

PJ is averaging 4.4 rebounds per game, Maxey was averaging 3.5 before his injury, Melton is averaging 4.7.

In reality, if your issue is rebounding, sending PJ to the bench has no effect. I would worry about our defense

Per game is a lie. Per 36, Tucker is averaging 5.6 rebounds and Maxey is averaging 3.4. Melton has always been a good rebounder for a guard and I have no concerns about him starting. I don’t think Maxey in large doses is conducive to this team going very far.

[elchengue20]

We are on a 8win streak without Maxey yet people keep overrating him.

If prime Ginobili and Crawford played off the bench, it won't be the end of the world if Maxey does it as a 22 year old kid.

It's clearly the better move to balance the roster.

[Jailblazers7]

I just don’t think we’re talented enough to significantly reduce the minutes of a player like Maxey. Harden/Maxey/Melton/Harris/Embiid is our most talented 5 man group and we’re gonna have to find a way to make that work if we want to have a chance.

[eyeatoma]

We are on a 8win streak without Maxey yet people keep overrating him.

If prime Ginobili and Crawford played off the bench, it won't be the end of the world if Maxey does it as a 22 year old kid.

It's clearly the better move to balance the roster.

The Klutch dynamic will need to be acknowledged.

No need for PJ to start.

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[Mik317]

Maxey gives the team a third explosive offensive option.

in the very game he got hurt he had 23 at the half ffs.

Melton and Shake have been good but neither is that level of explosive offense.


The fact that we lost a game in which Biid scored 48 and Harden had a 26....shows that we do in fact still miss Maxey.

People are in love with recency bias and ignore context. Biid was terrible those first games. Maxey legit has won us games by himself.

I don't know his true upside but he is a major building block for this franchise going forward. People are too quick to jettison found money around here and it is exactly the same thought process that has **** us in the ass constantly. Remember the Zhaire Smith trade in which it was made w/ the idea that 21 was the year HS were allowed to be drafted again? Never **** happened. And while I personally would have taken SGA...Mikal Bridges, flaws and all, is exactly the type of wing we need right now.,...although I am certain some of yall would be calling for him to be traded too because he's not Kawhii.

there is very little to no upside in trading, benching, or anything w/ Maxey IMO. Salvaging this team is damn sure not worth it...so unless OKC goes full Billy King and offers up SGA...there is very little interest from me.

PJ probably gonna take some time off with his injury. He will get Danny'd and finally be allowed to come off the pine. Melton might need some time off too as he hasn't be great lately either. The regular season is time to figure out things and a better coach would use it to do so...Doc uses it to pad his win totals, and come playoff time no one is ready to contribute when their number is called.

Some of yall have this idea that you can field a perfect flawless lineup. Not going to happen. Someone will always be a weak link on offense or defense (or both lolololol). We started Thybulle and a gunshy Tobias as our wings down the stretch...replacing him with Danny's corpse in the playoffs. Did pretty well. HELL some of our best lineups this year has featured Niang. I don't buy that adding Maxey would suddenly be the end of the world either...and even if it would be slightly worse defensively...having a dude who has speed and is willing to chuck opens up the offensive side of things too...so for those moments it would be a nice trade off.

I just wish people's first idea wasn't always trade this person or bench them, yknow.

[elchengue20]

I just don’t think we’re talented enough to significantly reduce the minutes of a player like Maxey. Harden/Maxey/Melton/Harris/Embiid is our most talented 5 man group and we’re gonna have to find a way to make that work if we want to have a chance.

Coming off the bench doesnt automatically means to play less minutes.

Its just to stager the minutes betweem him Embiid and Harden, so you can have one of them fresh on the floor at all times, also it gives him the chance to take control of the offense more often. Also try to avoid a bit those 3 guards lineups where we are going to be overmatched phisically.

II also didnt sayed he cant close games or play big minutes. I just think it would be interesting for our team to use him like Ginobili in SA for example.

[rocketsfan100]

Harden minutes need to come down from 37 to 32 minutes a night. That’s a minute a quarter because at 33 that’s asking a lot. It’s not just the minutes it’s all he has to do on offense as well

[Jay555]

Harden minutes need to come down from 37 to 32 minutes a night. That’s a minute a quarter because at 33 that’s asking a lot. It’s not just the minutes it’s all he has to do on offense as well

Been saying that for ages. Also rest either Harden or Biid on a back to back if possible..

[sixerguy]

I just don’t think we’re talented enough to significantly reduce the minutes of a player like Maxey. Harden/Maxey/Melton/Harris/Embiid is our most talented 5 man group and we’re gonna have to find a way to make that work if we want to have a chance.

Coming off the bench doesnt automatically means to play less minutes.

Its just to stager the minutes betweem him Embiid and Harden, so you can have one of them fresh on the floor at all times, also it gives him the chance to take control of the offense more often. Also try to avoid a bit those 3 guards lineups where we are going to be overmatched phisically.

II also didnt sayed he cant close games or play big minutes. I just think it would be interesting for our team to use him like Ginobili in SA for example.

that's what Im saying, simple math.

Two guard positions = 96 mins
- Harden 30mpg
- Maxey 30mpg
- Melton 30mpg
- Milton 6mpg

Who cares who comes off the bench, just make. a balanced lineup with those minute totals

[Negrodamus]

Maxey and Melton are definitely not distributors so you’re going to need more than 6 minutes for Shake when Harden goes to the bench.

[mjkvol]

Maxey gives the team a third explosive offensive option.

in the very game he got hurt he had 23 at the half ffs.

Melton and Shake have been good but neither is that level of explosive offense.


The fact that we lost a game in which Biid scored 48 and Harden had a 26....shows that we do in fact still miss Maxey.

People are in love with recency bias and ignore context. Biid was terrible those first games. Maxey legit has won us games by himself.

I don't know his true upside but he is a major building block for this franchise going forward. People are too quick to jettison found money around here and it is exactly the same thought process that has **** us in the ass constantly. Remember the Zhaire Smith trade in which it was made w/ the idea that 21 was the year HS were allowed to be drafted again? Never **** happened. And while I personally would have taken SGA...Mikal Bridges, flaws and all, is exactly the type of wing we need right now.,...although I am certain some of yall would be calling for him to be traded too because he's not Kawhii.

there is very little to no upside in trading, benching, or anything w/ Maxey IMO. Salvaging this team is damn sure not worth it...so unless OKC goes full Billy King and offers up SGA...there is very little interest from me.

PJ probably gonna take some time off with his injury. He will get Danny'd and finally be allowed to come off the pine. Melton might need some time off too as he hasn't be great lately either. The regular season is time to figure out things and a better coach would use it to do so...Doc uses it to pad his win totals, and come playoff time no one is ready to contribute when their number is called.

Some of yall have this idea that you can field a perfect flawless lineup. Not going to happen. Someone will always be a weak link on offense or defense (or both lolololol). We started Thybulle and a gunshy Tobias as our wings down the stretch...replacing him with Danny's corpse in the playoffs. Did pretty well. HELL some of our best lineups this year has featured Niang. I don't buy that adding Maxey would suddenly be the end of the world either...and even if it would be slightly worse defensively...having a dude who has speed and is willing to chuck opens up the offensive side of things too...so for those moments it would be a nice trade off.

I just wish people's first idea wasn't always trade this person or bench them, yknow.

Damn, you hit the bullseye with this rant, Mik.

The Mikal thing - many of us were saying the same thing at the time and got shouted down because of ... a draft pick that might have more importance if a rule was changed. So we get this 'athlete' we're told has this enormous upside, but what we did have and got rid of was an NBA ready version of what every f***king team is looking for endlessly. And then we're lectured ever since by some here that he really isn't any good while he's a major part of a team going to the finals.

And now it's "gotta trade Maxey, gotta trade Maxey". We finally draft a kid who wants to be a star here (imagine that!), and is still a baby yet is growing his game despite being jerked around by an incompetent coach. But he's a "traffic cone" on defense, he's a "munchkin", etc., etc. So maybe we can trade him for a 'better fitting' aging veteran that Glenn can run into the ground as he chases the all-time win record.

The talent is here to win, but we have become so used to having coaches that have no clue how to maximize it that we want to make moves that fit the tired, predictable scheme of said coach so we can once again reach the pinnacle of the second round. Then we can spend the off season pissing and moaning about what we need and proposing crazy trades offloading all our garbage for some All-NBA player or another that other teams are so desperate to hand us.

This being the Christmas season, a quote from Mr. Scrooge - "I'll retire to Bedlam".

[Jailblazers7]

I just don’t think we’re talented enough to significantly reduce the minutes of a player like Maxey. Harden/Maxey/Melton/Harris/Embiid is our most talented 5 man group and we’re gonna have to find a way to make that work if we want to have a chance.

Coming off the bench doesnt automatically means to play less minutes.

Its just to stager the minutes betweem him Embiid and Harden, so you can have one of them fresh on the floor at all times, also it gives him the chance to take control of the offense more often. Also try to avoid a bit those 3 guards lineups where we are going to be overmatched phisically.

II also didnt sayed he cant close games or play big minutes. I just think it would be interesting for our team to use him like Ginobili in SA for example.

that's what Im saying, simple math.

Two guard positions = 96 mins
- Harden 30mpg
- Maxey 30mpg
- Melton 30mpg
- Milton 6mpg

Who cares who comes off the bench, just make. a balanced lineup with those minute totals

All I’m saying is that you just listed 4 of our 6 best players and one is only being given 6mpg. We have to find a way to make 3 guard lineups viable or else we’re going to be minimizing one of our most useful players.

[Arsenal]

The only solution is less minutes for Tucker, opening up time for Harden and Milton to slide up to SF for significant minutes.

Basically a 3 guard lineup.

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

Three guard lineup, Harden guards small forwards.

[Dnt hate]

We are on a 8win streak without Maxey yet people keep overrating him.

If prime Ginobili and Crawford played off the bench, it won't be the end of the world if Maxey does it as a 22 year old kid.

It's clearly the better move to balance the roster.

It's not that clear man, the main point is that Maxey is young and has so much potential, he should play as many minutes as he can in the regular season, meanwhile Tucker is 37 and should play as few minutes as possible in the regular season. When the playoffs come around adjust lineups as needed. Now that's clear

[SixthStreet]

There’s a easy path to reducing Harden’s minutes when Maxey is back because Milton can simply slot into any 5 man lineup with Harden as a direct replacement without changing responsibilities too much for the other 4 guys on the court.

[SixersSince82]

Maxey off the bench. Starters minutes but off the bench.

I can't see them winning in the playoffs with a starting backcourt of Maxey and Harden. Need some defensive balance.

[eyeatoma]

Will be interesting to see what happens when he returns.

If we can stay a top 5-7 defense, we good.

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[SixthStreet]

Last 10 I don’t think is indicative of our defense. I wonder if there is a way to adjust for level of competition. Then add 30+ minutes for Maxey, better competition and opponent shooting regression, I believe defense is still this teams problem.

[Bum Adebayo]

Last 10 is indicative of how much better we've been on defense without Maxey.