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Re: Pascal is on the brink of SUPERSTARDOM... 

Post#441 » by kanersen » Wed Dec 28, 2022 11:58 pm

YogurtProducer wrote:
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ItsDanger wrote:Let's be honest, there was some blatant stat padding going on late in the 4th.


so instead of trying to get his team back in the game, he should've took his foot off the pedal and let his team get blown out?
clippers came back from a 14pt deficit the night before with 3 min left the night before and the knicks came back from 9 points down in the last 30 seconds to win last night.
siakam kept us within striking distance and kept getting us quick baskets. the problem was our abysmal defense and how we couldn't get any stops on the other end. batum and paul george hit us with multiple daggers.

No you see, anyone is capable of doing that. For some reason they just choose not to and only Siakam would possibly pad those stats.


It's all a part of Pascal's masterplan to get a max contract.
If he was a team player he should have let the team get blown out by 30 like they deserve.
Gonna change his nickname to Fake Stats Siakam.
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Post#442 » by anotherhomer » Thu Dec 29, 2022 2:12 pm

one encouaraging stat about his superstar rise is more ref calls
he's going to the FT line 8.3 times, up from 5.6...that's important come playoff time
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Post#443 » by OakleyDokely » Thu Dec 29, 2022 2:48 pm

NBA assist leaders (non guards)

1. Jokic: 9.4
2. Siakam: 6.8
3. Green: 6.7
4. Sabonis: 6.7
5. Lebron 6.6
6. Durant: 5.4
7. Giannis: 5.2
8. Demar: 5.0
9. Zion: 4.7
10. Scottie B: 4.7
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Post#444 » by Andreas Orphan » Thu Dec 29, 2022 2:57 pm

OakleyDokely wrote:NBA assist leaders (non guards)

1. Jokic: 9.4
2. Siakam: 6.8
3. Green: 6.7
4. Sabonis: 6.7
5. Lebron 6.6
6. Durant: 5.4
7. Giannis: 5.2
8. Demar: 5.0
9. Zion: 4.7
10. Scottie B: 4.7


Super impressive.
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Post#445 » by Andreas Orphan » Thu Dec 29, 2022 3:00 pm

ItsDanger wrote:Let's be honest, there was some blatant stat padding going on late in the 4th.


Nah, lets take it a step further. There's just blatant stat padding going on all season. That's the only way to explain the 27, 7. 9, and 1 he's putting up.

He stat padded his way to 52 pts as well.

Not sure why every player in the NBA isn't padding stats like him. It's just a matter of scoring when the game doesn't matter and other teams aren't trying.

They could all be all stars putting up superstar numbers and playing their way into max contracts.

Am I doing this right?
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Post#446 » by Andreas Orphan » Thu Dec 29, 2022 3:06 pm

YogurtProducer wrote:
ItsDanger wrote:Let's be honest, there was some blatant stat padding going on late in the 4th.

Oh shut the **** up man.

Just constant negativity and cannot give anyone some props. Go back to the tWo threads


Thank you for this.
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Post#447 » by Kingsway_fan » Thu Dec 29, 2022 3:10 pm

OakleyDokely wrote:NBA assist leaders (non guards)

1. Jokic: 9.4
2. Siakam: 6.8
3. Green: 6.7
4. Sabonis: 6.7
5. Lebron 6.6
6. Durant: 5.4
7. Giannis: 5.2
8. Demar: 5.0
9. Zion: 4.7
10. Scottie B: 4.7


Our so called "non superstar" ranked #11 on ESPN top players to date... no other raptor in top 50....

A superstar who loves to play in toronto.. who knew?
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Post#448 » by Kingsway_fan » Thu Dec 29, 2022 3:12 pm

Andreas Orphan wrote:
ItsDanger wrote:Let's be honest, there was some blatant stat padding going on late in the 4th.


Nah, lets take it a step further. There's just blatant stat padding going on all season. That's the only way to explain the 27, 7. 9, and 1 he's putting up.

He stat padded his way to 52 pts as well.

Not sure why every player in the NBA isn't padding stats like him. It's just a matter of scoring when the game doesn't matter and other teams aren't trying.

They could all be all stars putting up superstar numbers and playing their way into max contracts.

Am I doing this right?


Yeah, while shooting a team high 50 percent.... what a chucker....
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Post#449 » by Andreas Orphan » Thu Dec 29, 2022 5:08 pm

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Andreas Orphan wrote:
ItsDanger wrote:Let's be honest, there was some blatant stat padding going on late in the 4th.


Nah, lets take it a step further. There's just blatant stat padding going on all season. That's the only way to explain the 27, 7. 9, and 1 he's putting up.

He stat padded his way to 52 pts as well.

Not sure why every player in the NBA isn't padding stats like him. It's just a matter of scoring when the game doesn't matter and other teams aren't trying.

They could all be all stars putting up superstar numbers and playing their way into max contracts.

Am I doing this right?


Yeah, while shooting a team high 50 percent.... what a chucker....


Now we're talking! If he were less of a stat-padder fake all-star and more of a legitimate stat producer and real all-star he wouldn't need to lead the team in nearly every statistical category.

A real all star would have just stopped playing hard against the clippers and allowed them to beat us by 30, not put up fake stats on fake made baskets with fake talent.
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Post#450 » by HiJiNX » Thu Dec 29, 2022 5:41 pm

Siakam is putting up Miami Lebron numbers this season. And playing well in the 4th Q and being a momentum changer. Homie needs some help. Fred and Trent have let him down.

Also it’s crazy we have two players in the top 10 in non-guard assists. Clearly we need to get these guys some shooters and a big that can catch and finish. Wish we had landed Claxton last trade deadline—he’s having a great season.
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Post#451 » by gbball » Thu Dec 29, 2022 6:10 pm

Siakam started off horribly but really turned it around to close things out. That's really commendable. People are reaching for reasons to hate on this guy. We scored enough to win. Our defense was what lost us the game.
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Post#452 » by HiJiNX » Thu Dec 29, 2022 6:17 pm

gbball wrote:Siakam started off horribly but really turned it around to close things out. That's really commendable. People are reaching for reasons to hate on this guy. We scored enough to win. Our defense was what lost us the game.

I think a better start from Siakam would have put us in a better position to win. For me it wasn’t that he was missing a lot, it was that his shot selection was poor and froze out the team. Second half Siakam came out playmaking, which opened up the floor for himself and he single-handedly brought us back in it. Hopefully he continues to learn that the playmaking is what makes him so dangerous.
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Post#453 » by Andreas Orphan » Thu Dec 29, 2022 6:25 pm

HiJiNX wrote:Siakam is putting up Miami Lebron numbers this season. And playing well in the 4th Q and being a momentum changer. Homie needs some help. Fred and Trent have let him down.

Also it’s crazy we have two players in the top 10 in non-guard assists. Clearly we need to get these guys some shooters and a big that can catch and finish. Wish we had landed Claxton last trade deadline—he’s having a great season.


Yup.

Also crazy to think Pascal is scoring the way he is with essentially zero spacing out there. The front office needs to fix this.
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Post#454 » by gbball » Thu Dec 29, 2022 6:52 pm

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gbball wrote:Siakam started off horribly but really turned it around to close things out. That's really commendable. People are reaching for reasons to hate on this guy. We scored enough to win. Our defense was what lost us the game.

I think a better start from Siakam would have put us in a better position to win. For me it wasn’t that he was missing a lot, it was that his shot selection was poor and froze out the team. Second half Siakam came out playmaking, which opened up the floor for himself and he single-handedly brought us back in it. Hopefully he continues to learn that the playmaking is what makes him so dangerous.


Agree. I think it was a bit of nervy prove 'em game to start from OG and Siakam to start as they were going up against the guy they're trying to measure up to and as a result they both played pretty poorly in the beginning.

Siakam showed me that he's right there...but loses confidence in his shot and needs to learn when to involve his teammates and when to try to get his like you said. Assert himself, but not force his game...just take what the defense gives you, until you need to do the heavy lifting down the stretch. It's all part of his evolution.

OG saw the gap between he and Kawhi, which will be good for him long term too. He still has work to do.
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Post#455 » by HiJiNX » Thu Dec 29, 2022 6:58 pm

gbball wrote:
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gbball wrote:Siakam started off horribly but really turned it around to close things out. That's really commendable. People are reaching for reasons to hate on this guy. We scored enough to win. Our defense was what lost us the game.

I think a better start from Siakam would have put us in a better position to win. For me it wasn’t that he was missing a lot, it was that his shot selection was poor and froze out the team. Second half Siakam came out playmaking, which opened up the floor for himself and he single-handedly brought us back in it. Hopefully he continues to learn that the playmaking is what makes him so dangerous.


Agree. I think it was a bit of nervy prove 'em game to start from OG and Siakam to start as they were going up against the guy they're trying to measure up to and as a result they both played pretty poorly in the beginning.

Siakam showed me that he's right there...but loses confidence in his shot and needs to learn when to involve his teammates and when to try to get his like you said. Assert himself, but not force his game...just take what the defense gives you, until you need to do the heavy lifting down the stretch. It's all part of his evolution.

OG saw the gap between he and Kawhi, which will be good for him long term too. He still has work to do.

Exactly how I read it. Siakam and OG were trying to prove they were stars while Kawhi was out there just being one. OG has some skill deficiency (pull up jumpers and one foot takeoffs at the rim) to get there. With Siakam it’s like you said—he too easily abandons his jumper if it’s not falling early. Funny thing about shooting is you have to believe you’re good at it in order to be truly good at it. Siakam still has a few demons left to exorcise I think. He’s almost there. And yeah, he’s still learning how to manage a game. Again, almost there.

Good learning experience for both Siakam and OG.
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Post#456 » by anotherhomer » Thu Dec 29, 2022 7:06 pm

HiJiNX wrote:
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HiJiNX wrote:I think a better start from Siakam would have put us in a better position to win. For me it wasn’t that he was missing a lot, it was that his shot selection was poor and froze out the team. Second half Siakam came out playmaking, which opened up the floor for himself and he single-handedly brought us back in it. Hopefully he continues to learn that the playmaking is what makes him so dangerous.


Agree. I think it was a bit of nervy prove 'em game to start from OG and Siakam to start as they were going up against the guy they're trying to measure up to and as a result they both played pretty poorly in the beginning.

Siakam showed me that he's right there...but loses confidence in his shot and needs to learn when to involve his teammates and when to try to get his like you said. Assert himself, but not force his game...just take what the defense gives you, until you need to do the heavy lifting down the stretch. It's all part of his evolution.

OG saw the gap between he and Kawhi, which will be good for him long term too. He still has work to do.

Exactly how I read it. Siakam and OG were trying to prove they were stars while Kawhi was out there just being one. OG has some skill deficiency (pull up jumpers and one foot takeoffs at the rim) to get there. With Siakam it’s like you said—he too easily abandons his jumper if it’s not falling early. Funny thing about shooting is you have to believe you’re good at it in order to be truly good at it. Siakam still has a few demons left to exorcise I think. He’s almost there. And yeah, he’s still learning how to manage a game. Again, almost there.

Good learning experience for both Siakam and OG.


he's been working on the jumper for a long time, it's getting there...
same with Scottie too....for a lot of them, is not consistent (that's what happens when you have long arms), not everyone's going to be KD, a dead-eye shooter with long limbs
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Post#457 » by wow09 » Thu Dec 29, 2022 7:08 pm

OakleyDokely wrote:NBA assist leaders (non guards)

1. Jokic: 9.4
2. Siakam: 6.8
3. Green: 6.7
4. Sabonis: 6.7
5. Lebron 6.6
6. Durant: 5.4
7. Giannis: 5.2
8. Demar: 5.0
9. Zion: 4.7
10. Scottie B: 4.7


Would be even higher if we didn't have one of the worst shooting teams in the league.
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Post#458 » by ItsDanger » Fri Dec 30, 2022 2:44 am

The best playmakers create easy shots. Not just good shots. Know the difference.
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Post#459 » by ItsDanger » Sat Jan 28, 2023 6:58 am

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Siakam in a rough stretch lately. Pump the brakes on that superstar talk please.

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Post#460 » by TRik » Sat Jan 28, 2023 8:23 am

ItsDanger wrote:Image

Siakam in a rough stretch lately. Pump the brakes on that superstar talk please.

Oof.


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