T&T board top 10 worst contracts - Vote for #3

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T&T board top 10 worst contracts - Vote for #3 

Post#1 » by Dr Positivity » Thu Dec 29, 2022 7:20 pm

Please vote for the #3 worst contract in the league - This is not "who deserves their salary the least, it's lowest trade value including factors like play, salary, age, health, etc. In addition, please vote for a player to replace them on the nomination list.

1. Duncan Robinson (4 years, 74.4 million - 4th year 9.9 million guaranteed)
2. Michael Porter, Jr. (5 years, 179.3 million - 5th year 12 million guaranteed, 17 million if 1x all-star, fully guaranteed 2 time all-star or All NBA, or wins title with GP requirement)

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Davis Bertans (3 years, 49 million - 3rd year 5 million guaranteed, 16 million fully guaranteed if plays 75% of games 2nd year)

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Tim Hardaway, Jr (3 years, 53.7 million)

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Lonzo Ball (3 years, 61.3 million - 3rd year 21.4 million player option)

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Klay Thompson (2 years, 83.8 million)

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Joe Harris (2 years, 38.5 million)

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Gordon Hayward (2 years, 61.6 million)

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Tobias Harris (2 years, 76.9 million)

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Ben Simmons (3 years, 113.6 million)

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Evan Fournier (2 years, 36.9 million + 3rd year 19 million team option)

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Russell Westbrook (1 year, 471. million)

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Bradley Beal (4 years, 175.9 million + 5th year 57.1 million player option)
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Post#2 » by Dr Positivity » Thu Dec 29, 2022 7:20 pm

Vote Simmons

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Post#3 » by babyjax13 » Thu Dec 29, 2022 7:24 pm

Lonzo Ball
his career might be over, at the very least a series of concerning injuries, lots of missed games, and a lot of money

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Post#4 » by wackbone » Thu Dec 29, 2022 7:32 pm

Vote Simmons
Will edit in a nominee later
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Post#5 » by Homerclease » Thu Dec 29, 2022 8:18 pm

Vote Ball

Nominate Gobert
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Post#6 » by Mavrelous » Thu Dec 29, 2022 8:22 pm

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Post#7 » by shrink » Thu Dec 29, 2022 8:30 pm

Simmons. If things go wrong again, few GM’s keep their job. We’re voting on how they assess trade value.

Beal. It’s the size of the deal, the $57 mil player option, but especially the No Trade clause
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Post#8 » by ejftw » Thu Dec 29, 2022 8:30 pm

Bertans - While his value isn't the third worst in the Mavs perspective due to his shot and gravitational pull, league wise, he belongs here.

Gobert - It's knee jerk due to a bad start, I thought he was overpaid when his deal was initially inked, however, the start has further dropped him
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Post#9 » by Dr Positivity » Thu Dec 29, 2022 8:38 pm

shrink wrote:Simmons. If things go wrong again, few GM’s keep their job. We’re voting on how they assess trade value.

Beal. It’s the size of the deal, the $57 mil player option, but especially the No Trade clause


Beal was nominated already
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Post#10 » by shrink » Thu Dec 29, 2022 8:50 pm

Dr Positivity wrote:
shrink wrote:Simmons. If things go wrong again, few GM’s keep their job. We’re voting on how they assess trade value.

Beal. It’s the size of the deal, the $57 mil player option, but especially the No Trade clause


Beal was nominated already

Sorry. Thanks

I’ll nominate Bagley, but I’m also worried about Zach LaVine and Jordan Poole.
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Post#11 » by Wolveswin » Thu Dec 29, 2022 9:24 pm

Bertans

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Post#12 » by Wolveswin » Thu Dec 29, 2022 9:25 pm

ejftw wrote:Bertans - While his value isn't the third worst in the Mavs perspective due to his shot and gravitational pull, league wise, he belongs here.

Gobert - It's knee jerk due to a bad start, I thought he was overpaid when his deal was initially inked, however, the start has further dropped him

Gobert also made the top 25 value list as a HM. Can a player make both lists?
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Post#13 » by Knickfan1982 » Thu Dec 29, 2022 9:39 pm

Vote: Ben Simmons-Big contract for someone with no scoring ability.
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Post#14 » by BarbaGrizz » Thu Dec 29, 2022 9:46 pm

Vote Beal

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Post#15 » by Coxy » Thu Dec 29, 2022 9:54 pm

Vote Simmons
Nominate Poole
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Post#16 » by Sofia » Thu Dec 29, 2022 10:54 pm

Vote Lonzo

Nominate Poole

I really want to go Bertans and his 4ppg here, but I’ll give him the edge over Lonzo because he seems to have an unending list of ailments. If Lonzo had played a few games or looked like coming back some time soon I’d have him later.
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Re: T&T board top 10 worst contracts - Vote for #3 

Post#17 » by shrink » Thu Dec 29, 2022 10:58 pm

Wolveswin wrote:
ejftw wrote:Gobert - It's knee jerk due to a bad start, I thought he was overpaid when his deal was initially inked, however, the start has further dropped him

Gobert also made the top 25 value list as a HM. Can a player make both lists?
I don’t see why different voters might put a player on both lists. The best players have big salaries, and these are usually the ones that can make the impact that decides between winning and losing. However, if they fall down to just being mediocre-to-good, then that big salary is an anchor on the whole team, and sometimes for a long time. They walk the edge of a cliff.

If a voter here feels that NBA GM’s believe a high salaries guy is going to fall off that cliff, I have no problem with them voting for them.
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Post#18 » by Lenneth » Thu Dec 29, 2022 11:01 pm

V: Bertans
N: Gobert
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Post#19 » by daoneandonly » Thu Dec 29, 2022 11:03 pm

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Post#20 » by Texas Chuck » Thu Dec 29, 2022 11:04 pm

Vote: Klay considered Lonzo here, but Klay just hasn't been good at all. Worst comes to worst for Lonzo he can simply be wiped off your cap and insurance pays most of the contract for you.
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