Moderators: Clav, Domejandro, ken6199, bisme37, Dirk, KingDavid, cupcakesnake, bwgood77, zimpy27, infinite11285
hippesthippo wrote:Domejandro wrote:"Better version of Dirk" is too much (making that claim is going to derail the entire thread), but as the #1 Lauri Markkanen supporter on the forum, I am not surprised to see him doing well. He has a lot of the ideal tools, despite the health issues.
I'll fight you for that title.
MrSparkle wrote:I don't see a scenario here or there where Lauri becomes the "7-pick we thought he could be." If you remove his 3P ability, he's worse than Felicio by a mile.
12/2/2022
I like the quote- it makes me chuckle. And it was/is pretty much true.
iLLmatic860 wrote:KhalilS wrote:Bulls traded away WCJ and let Markannen walk + 2 picks 1 of them was Wagner.
Imagine these Bulls with WCJ, Wagner and Markannen, and all their future 1sts with them.
Yea idk what the Bulls were thinking lol
MrSparkle wrote:I don't see a scenario here or there where Lauri becomes the "7-pick we thought he could be." If you remove his 3P ability, he's worse than Felicio by a mile.
12/2/2022
I like the quote- it makes me chuckle. And it was/is pretty much true.
otterpop_ wrote:Let me guess.. you're from Finland.Sunlight wrote:Markannen is very skilled for his size. Decent ballhandler and passer, and actually has some playmaking ability.
Seems like it took 5 years for the Americans realize that Lauri is able to do also other things than stand behind the line and shoot 3 pointers like Cavs and Bulls used him.
Will Hardy develop him to better version of Dirk. That is sure.
(Best rim protector in NBA owned so hard by Lauri)
MrSparkle wrote:I don't see a scenario here or there where Lauri becomes the "7-pick we thought he could be." If you remove his 3P ability, he's worse than Felicio by a mile.
12/2/2022
I like the quote- it makes me chuckle. And it was/is pretty much true.
Blacksheep25 wrote:Pantsman wrote:Ballerhogger wrote:He was stuck in CLE he had quite few bad games for them . Clearly he needed a new team and new start
He really didn’t have a lot of bad games in Cleveland. As a cavs fan im not surprised at all that lauri has this in him. He showed it almost every game in Cleveland. Just not at this scale.
Yeah, he played as well as he had over his career in general. Wasn’t bad, had some streaks, but just not consistent or a centerpiece on a real contender. Glad he’s playing well. This isn’t some trade I want to see the other side fail. Those picks are going to be high and Ainge may package them for a better pick eventually, and Mitchell has been borderline MVP contender, so I’m glad Lauri is playing well. Those familiar with him just understand it likely won’t last. He’ll stay decent, but he’ll have a ten game stretch where he shoots 20% from 3 also.
MrSparkle wrote:I don't see a scenario here or there where Lauri becomes the "7-pick we thought he could be." If you remove his 3P ability, he's worse than Felicio by a mile.
12/2/2022
I like the quote- it makes me chuckle. And it was/is pretty much true.
Blacksheep25 wrote:sip wrote:I guess you missed the fact that he is doing this without shooting well from 3. The guy is in the best shape of his career and taken his game to completely different level. Once he gets hot from 3 he is going to put up some huge numbers for that stretch.Blacksheep25 wrote:
Yeah, he played as well as he had over his career in general. Wasn’t bad, had some streaks, but just not consistent or a centerpiece on a real contender. Glad he’s playing well. This isn’t some trade I want to see the other side fail. Those picks are going to be high and Ainge may package them for a better pick eventually, and Mitchell has been borderline MVP contender, so I’m glad Lauri is playing well. Those familiar with him just understand it likely won’t last. He’ll stay decent, but he’ll have a ten game stretch where he shoots 20% from 3 also.
Sent from my SM-G988U using RealGM mobile app
I’ll bump this thread in three months and he’ll be averaging 16 and 8 on average efficiency, and there is nothing wrong with that, but Lauri is a limited player. Everyone gets excited about him when he first arrives, then reality sets in.
MrSparkle wrote:I don't see a scenario here or there where Lauri becomes the "7-pick we thought he could be." If you remove his 3P ability, he's worse than Felicio by a mile.
12/2/2022
I like the quote- it makes me chuckle. And it was/is pretty much true.
Bolivar wrote:Frankly I've mostly watched some highlight reels and 4th quarters but I'd recommend that to some "doubters" as well, at least watch how he scores his baskets. There's a few jumpshots per game but most importantly he drives to the basket and doesn't shy away from contact at all. He's done something very very well in his physical prep to the season, he seems very comfortable in his tall frame now. That wasn't the case in Chicago, there he would mostly just hope to get the ball to get a jumpshot off but it was other players who drove to the basket and thus had kind of earned their way to get big points and big contracts. Cavs Lauri was something in-between I guess, the potential was there but the Cavs fans weren't particularly high on him. Now he's had excellent physical summer training, a good Eurobasket tournament as the obvious #1 player in the Finnish roster etc. It might be that he kind of peaks early (=about now) and then the long season starts to show, but let's hope he stays healthy throughout the season.
This thread is a bit too click-bait though and the Dirk trolling doesn't help, but guess there will be a better active thread sooner or later.
MrSparkle wrote:I don't see a scenario here or there where Lauri becomes the "7-pick we thought he could be." If you remove his 3P ability, he's worse than Felicio by a mile.
12/2/2022
I like the quote- it makes me chuckle. And it was/is pretty much true.
PaKii94 wrote:Domejandro wrote:"Better version of Dirk" is too much (making that claim is going to derail the entire thread), but as the #1 Lauri Markkanen supporter on the forum, I am not surprised to see him doing well. He has a lot of the ideal tools, despite the health issues.
I dispute your #1 Lauri supporter claimI've been calling for this version of Lauri since his rookie season!
MrSparkle wrote:I don't see a scenario here or there where Lauri becomes the "7-pick we thought he could be." If you remove his 3P ability, he's worse than Felicio by a mile.
12/2/2022
I like the quote- it makes me chuckle. And it was/is pretty much true.
ArtMorte wrote:Talking about the Cavs' big men: Mobley's hype has taken a little hit this season. He hasn't added anything to his game since his rookie year. Still a great prospect, but with the Mitchell trade the Cavs are in a win-now moment.
It's also an issue for the Cavs that neither of their starting bigs make threes: Allen doesn't shoot them at all and while Mobley attempts the very occasional three, he's hitting them at abysmal 22%. It's tough to be a good team in today's NBA if both your PF and C are not a threat from beyond the arc.
Right now it's looking pretty obvious that the Cavs would have been better off in the present by trading Mobley and keeping Markkanen - if that was an option. Mobley needs to develop his game by next season at the latest or it's starting to make more sense for the Cavs to trade him or Allen.
MrSparkle wrote:I don't see a scenario here or there where Lauri becomes the "7-pick we thought he could be." If you remove his 3P ability, he's worse than Felicio by a mile.
12/2/2022
I like the quote- it makes me chuckle. And it was/is pretty much true.
Sunlight wrote:Markannen is very skilled for his size. Decent ballhandler and passer, and actually has some playmaking ability.
Seems like it took 5 years for the Americans realize that Lauri is able to do also other things than stand behind the line and shoot 3 pointers like Cavs and Bulls used him.
Will Hardy develop him to better version of Dirk. That is sure.
(Best rim protector in NBA owned so hard by Lauri)
I vote for him daily but he probably gets picked by the coaches as a reserve or the commissioner as an injury replacement.Michael Jackson wrote:Lauri better make the allstar game this year.
Lockdown504090 wrote:Playoff liability, isn’ta shot creator against good defense. All you have to do is switch screens and watch him implode. The L wolves are just a train wreck that can’t defend him
sip wrote:You need to dial it back with all the posts. Acting like that destroys the conversation.
MrSparkle wrote:I don't see a scenario here or there where Lauri becomes the "7-pick we thought he could be." If you remove his 3P ability, he's worse than Felicio by a mile.
12/2/2022
I like the quote- it makes me chuckle. And it was/is pretty much true.
hoosierdaddy34 wrote:Lauri made a jump after stalling his development for years. Good for him. Mobley has plateaued for a moment but he has 3 or 4 big jumps to come in his development. That’s how this player development thing works, it’s improve then plateau and then rise again until you are 26 or 27. Mobley will make a big jump in the future here and everyone will be talking about how dumb this thread was.
People need to have patience and not be so reactionary in the moment. It’s still Mobley by a considerable amount moving forward. And I’m not remotely a Cavs fan so save that nonsense.
.
MoneyTalks41890 wrote:I was skeptical but Lauri is looking like the real deal. Definitely a front runner for MIP if he can keep this up. But I think the Cavs are pretty happy with where they are.
