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Post#561 » by Rainwater » Mon Jan 2, 2023 4:32 am

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adamy35 wrote:I’d love for Orlando to get Brandon Miller with our first pick and then Brice Sensabaugh with the Bulls pick.

Now that Sensabaugh is getting minutes at OSU, he’s showing how deadly he is from range and scoring in bunches. I think he will move up to top 10 range by the end of the season and he’s a freshman as well.

Slot both of them at SG and have them split time and we have that position covered. Trade some of our big depth for a solid PG and we roll for the playoffs next year.

im biased, but Miller is a stud. would love to get him


Miller gives me Jabari Smith vibes. Worse defender but better offensive player. If you watch him all he does spot up and chuck 3 pointers.
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Re: 2023 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#562 » by tiderulz » Mon Jan 2, 2023 4:38 am

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tiderulz wrote:
adamy35 wrote:I’d love for Orlando to get Brandon Miller with our first pick and then Brice Sensabaugh with the Bulls pick.

Now that Sensabaugh is getting minutes at OSU, he’s showing how deadly he is from range and scoring in bunches. I think he will move up to top 10 range by the end of the season and he’s a freshman as well.

Slot both of them at SG and have them split time and we have that position covered. Trade some of our big depth for a solid PG and we roll for the playoffs next year.

im biased, but Miller is a stud. would love to get him


Miller gives me Jabari Smith vibes. Worse defender but better offensive player. If you watch him all he does spot up and chuck 3 pointers.

are you kidding? Miller has much better handle and can score in many ways, 3 pt , iso, driving. and no, shooting 3 pts is not all he does. doesnt seem like you have watched many of his games. and at 45% from 3, i wouldnt necessarily call it "chucking"
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Re: 2023 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#563 » by Viper1500 » Mon Jan 2, 2023 4:56 am

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Rainwater wrote:
tiderulz wrote:im biased, but Miller is a stud. would love to get him


Miller gives me Jabari Smith vibes. Worse defender but better offensive player. If you watch him all he does spot up and chuck 3 pointers.

are you kidding? Miller has much better handle and can score in many ways, 3 pt , iso, driving. and no, shooting 3 pts is not all he does. doesnt seem like you have watched many of his games. and at 45% from 3, i wouldnt necessarily call it "chucking"

ROLL TIDE!

Miller is more PG13 than he is Jabari Smith.


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Post#564 » by JTG_92940618 » Mon Jan 2, 2023 5:30 am

tiderulz wrote:
Rainwater wrote:
tiderulz wrote:im biased, but Miller is a stud. would love to get him


Miller gives me Jabari Smith vibes. Worse defender but better offensive player. If you watch him all he does spot up and chuck 3 pointers.

are you kidding? Miller has much better handle and can score in many ways, 3 pt , iso, driving. and no, shooting 3 pts is not all he does. doesnt seem like you have watched many of his games. and at 45% from 3, i wouldnt necessarily call it "chucking"


Jabari attempted 3s on 44% of his shots in college compared to Miller's 53%.

Jabari also made 2s at a higher clip (43.5% compared to 38.8%).

Anyway, I would be very happy with Miller coming to Orlando. His 3-point shooting would compliment Franz's and Paolo's rim pressure.
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Re: 2023 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#565 » by tiderulz » Mon Jan 2, 2023 6:03 am

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tiderulz wrote:
Rainwater wrote:
Miller gives me Jabari Smith vibes. Worse defender but better offensive player. If you watch him all he does spot up and chuck 3 pointers.

are you kidding? Miller has much better handle and can score in many ways, 3 pt , iso, driving. and no, shooting 3 pts is not all he does. doesnt seem like you have watched many of his games. and at 45% from 3, i wouldnt necessarily call it "chucking"


Jabari attempted 3s on 44% of his shots in college compared to Miller's 53%.

Jabari also made 2s at a higher clip (43.5% compared to 38.8%).

Anyway, I would be very happy with Miller coming to Orlando. His 3-point shooting would compliment Franz's and Paolo's rim pressure.

Miller much better handle than Jabari. much better fluidity driving the basket than Jabari. Miller able to break his defender down iso much better than Jabari.
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Post#566 » by JTG_92940618 » Mon Jan 2, 2023 8:38 am

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JTG_92940618 wrote:
tiderulz wrote:are you kidding? Miller has much better handle and can score in many ways, 3 pt , iso, driving. and no, shooting 3 pts is not all he does. doesnt seem like you have watched many of his games. and at 45% from 3, i wouldnt necessarily call it "chucking"


Jabari attempted 3s on 44% of his shots in college compared to Miller's 53%.

Jabari also made 2s at a higher clip (43.5% compared to 38.8%).

Anyway, I would be very happy with Miller coming to Orlando. His 3-point shooting would compliment Franz's and Paolo's rim pressure.

Miller much better handle than Jabari. much better fluidity driving the basket than Jabari. Miller able to break his defender down iso much better than Jabari.


I'm not really disputing his handles or fluidity, I'm saying he doesn't score it in that many ways. He mostly shoots 3s.

In contrast to Jabari, who is cast as a bit of a 3&D guy, Miller shoots threes more often and when he shoots 2s, he scores 2s at a lower clip than Jabari.
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Post#567 » by drsd » Mon Jan 2, 2023 10:48 am

Washington has pushed Chicago out of the play-ins, (currently) improving dramatically the value of the Bulls pick!

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Post#568 » by Petre1978 » Mon Jan 2, 2023 1:23 pm

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tiderulz wrote:
Rainwater wrote:
Miller gives me Jabari Smith vibes. Worse defender but better offensive player. If you watch him all he does spot up and chuck 3 pointers.

are you kidding? Miller has much better handle and can score in many ways, 3 pt , iso, driving. and no, shooting 3 pts is not all he does. doesnt seem like you have watched many of his games. and at 45% from 3, i wouldnt necessarily call it "chucking"

ROLL TIDE!

Miller is more PG13 than he is Jabari Smith.


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Absolutely!
Miller is far more advanced on offense than Jabari Smith!
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Post#569 » by Petre1978 » Mon Jan 2, 2023 1:34 pm

QUESTION

Would you be satisfied with the Magic drafting?
6. Ausar Thompson
9. Cason Wallace

I think the Magic also need PG help.
You cannot count on Suggs and Anthony!
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Post#570 » by basketballRob » Mon Jan 2, 2023 2:03 pm

Petre1978 wrote:QUESTION

Would you be satisfied with the Magic drafting?
6. Ausar Thompson
9. Cason Wallace

I think the Magic also need PG help.
You cannot count on Suggs and Anthony!
The only bad about Wallace is he's another PG-sized player with a very short wingspan .

I'd take Whitmore and Whitehead.

Whitehead started off slow but Draftnet compares him to Herro and Beal. He's 2 years younger than Miller.

Whitmore and Whitehead will both still be 18 when they get drafted. Both are going to be elite physical players.

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Post#571 » by JoshuaPotter » Mon Jan 2, 2023 2:05 pm

SOUL wrote:Drafting for shooting is a bit tricky because it often takes those guys a few years to really become elite in the NBA and you can find elite shooters pretty cheap before you have to pay them (Seth, Duncan (before falling off), J. Harris, Yuta, etc). I feel like the last guy where it translated immediately was Desmond Bane but he was taken late. Maybe Trey Murphy.


Overall I agree. It took years for JJ Reddick and he was obvious, even after coming back from injury.

At the point we are now, we don't need elite per say, we just need shooters period.
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Post#572 » by Petre1978 » Mon Jan 2, 2023 2:21 pm

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Petre1978 wrote:QUESTION

Would you be satisfied with the Magic drafting?
6. Ausar Thompson
9. Cason Wallace

I think the Magic also need PG help.
You cannot count on Suggs and Anthony!
The only bad about Wallace is he's another PG-sized player with a very short wingspan .

I'd take Whitmore and Whitehead.

Whitehead started off slow but Draftnet compares him to Herro and Beal. He's 2 years younger than Miller.

Whitmore and Whitehead will both still be 18 when they get drafted. Both are going to be elite physical players.

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The Magic need players who bring perimeter shooting
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Re: 2023 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#573 » by Viper1500 » Mon Jan 2, 2023 2:31 pm

Petre1978 wrote:QUESTION

Would you be satisfied with the Magic drafting?
6. Ausar Thompson
9. Cason Wallace

I think the Magic also need PG help.
You cannot count on Suggs and Anthony!

Assuming we land 6&9, this would be a dream!


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Post#574 » by tiderulz » Mon Jan 2, 2023 2:33 pm

JoshuaPotter wrote:
SOUL wrote:Drafting for shooting is a bit tricky because it often takes those guys a few years to really become elite in the NBA and you can find elite shooters pretty cheap before you have to pay them (Seth, Duncan (before falling off), J. Harris, Yuta, etc). I feel like the last guy where it translated immediately was Desmond Bane but he was taken late. Maybe Trey Murphy.


Overall I agree. It took years for JJ Reddick and he was obvious, even after coming back from injury.

At the point we are now, we don't need elite per say, we just need shooters period.

ehh, JJ was shooting 39% from 3 his rookie year. Stans problem was his defense. but he was shooting good right away.
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Post#575 » by eyriq » Mon Jan 2, 2023 2:42 pm

Petre1978 wrote:QUESTION

Would you be satisfied with the Magic drafting?
6. Ausar Thompson
9. Cason Wallace

I think the Magic also need PG help.
You cannot count on Suggs and Anthony!


I'd be happy! The Thompson twins are really interesting and Cason Wallace sounds like a type of guard that would compliment Franz and Paolo well (3&D)
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Re: 2023 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#576 » by Petre1978 » Mon Jan 2, 2023 2:47 pm



I see Miller very well with Wagner and Banchero!!

Add in Wallace with the Bulls pick!

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Post#577 » by Def Swami » Mon Jan 2, 2023 3:04 pm

Miller would fit like a glove on our roster. With Banchero and Wagner, we don't need Miller to be an off the bounce playmaker. But, getting someone who can move without the ball, snipe 3s, and maintain our ability to switch on defense would be a great pick up.
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Post#578 » by Petre1978 » Mon Jan 2, 2023 3:15 pm

Def Swami wrote:Miller would fit like a glove on our roster. With Banchero and Wagner, we don't need Miller to be an off the bounce playmaker. But, getting someone who can move without the ball, snipe 3s, and maintain our ability to switch on defense would be a great pick up.

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Post#579 » by fendilim » Mon Jan 2, 2023 4:15 pm

Petre1978 wrote:
Viper1500 wrote:
tiderulz wrote:are you kidding? Miller has much better handle and can score in many ways, 3 pt , iso, driving. and no, shooting 3 pts is not all he does. doesnt seem like you have watched many of his games. and at 45% from 3, i wouldnt necessarily call it "chucking"

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Miller is more PG13 than he is Jabari Smith.


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Absolutely!
Miller is far more advanced on offense than Jabari Smith!

He is more advanced but Jabari is arguably a better shooter, Not a knack on Miller or anything.

I think his skillset fits well with the team we are building. He has the length and playmaking we need.
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Post#580 » by Magic#1 » Mon Jan 2, 2023 4:19 pm

Petre1978 wrote:
Def Swami wrote:Miller would fit like a glove on our roster. With Banchero and Wagner, we don't need Miller to be an off the bounce playmaker. But, getting someone who can move without the ball, snipe 3s, and maintain our ability to switch on defense would be a great pick up.

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For now, Miller sits at No. 3 on my board for us. NSJ sounded like he would be a really good piece at the beginning of the year, but Miller has definitely passed him for the time being. Scoot or Wemby are the hope, but if we still get Miller, I'd say our rebuild is over and we have the pieces to contend if developed well.

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