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Re: 2022 ATL Thread - The Offseason 

Post#481 » by MickeyDavis » Sat Dec 17, 2022 10:31 pm

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Re: 2022 ATL Thread - The Offseason 

Post#482 » by coolhandluke121 » Sun Dec 18, 2022 1:23 am

Glad the Cardinals didn't get Swanson (or any of the other good SS's).
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Re: 2022 ATL Thread - The Offseason 

Post#483 » by humanrefutation » Sun Dec 18, 2022 10:11 am

If that's what Swanson costs I wonder how much Adames could fetch in FA. I'm guessing he's looking for something similar to Swanson, especially if he has a good season.
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Re: 2022 ATL Thread - The Offseason 

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Re: 2022 ATL Thread - The Offseason 

Post#485 » by coolhandluke121 » Wed Dec 21, 2022 1:50 pm

Correa changed his mind and will sign with the Mets for 12/$315m. I don't think that happens often in MLB, does it?
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Re: 2022 ATL Thread - The Offseason 

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Re: 2022 ATL Thread - The Offseason 

Post#487 » by ReasonablySober » Wed Dec 21, 2022 2:05 pm

Now I really hope the Mets fall on their asses.
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Re: 2022 ATL Thread - The Offseason 

Post#488 » by Ron Swanson » Wed Dec 21, 2022 2:29 pm

Mets literally paying more than half a billion for a championship. Baseball is so **** broken and this is exactly why I don't blame fanbases like ours when they just mentally check out and don't care even when we're in playoff contention. It's a joke.
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Re: 2022 ATL Thread - The Offseason 

Post#489 » by MickeyDavis » Wed Dec 21, 2022 3:11 pm

Meanwhile the Yelich contract hamstrings our team for years. Certainly the Mets aren't guaranteed anything but other than the Royals in 2015 no small market teams have won it for a long time. Sure the Brewers and Rays have made the playoffs and the Rays made a World Series but no titles. And we are stuck "celebrating" a team that lost the Series 40 years ago.
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Re: 2022 ATL Thread - The Offseason 

Post#490 » by WeekapaugGroove » Wed Dec 21, 2022 4:53 pm

If you want to take a cynical view, the system is working like it should. The vast majority of baseball fans only care about/watch their team so it's best for the sport to have the best players in the teams where they get the most exposure. Basically you could build a super team in a place like Kansas City and no one would really care and it would only increase exposure in one small market.

But I also wonder if it's a chicken/egg thing where the current set up is a result of the national media only really covering like 8 teams and years and years of the best players always heading to huge markets. IDK, maybe we're just past the days that baseball is a national sport and nothing will ever change that.

Do we hit a point where the small markets become completely non-viable? Maybe although the league shares enough cash where I guess they could prop them up even if no one goes to the games. Basically be filler opponents and a farm system for the teams that matter. (We're not too far off from this now)

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Re: 2022 ATL Thread - The Offseason 

Post#491 » by coolhandluke121 » Fri Dec 23, 2022 2:44 pm

Wil Myers gets 1 guaranteed year from the Reds at $7.5m, up to $9.5m with incentives. Mutual option for year 2. Seems like that could have been a near-perfect fit for Milwaukee's needs and payroll situation. He's probably done being a good player, but there is still a hint of upside in that move, and he wouldn't interfere with any long-term team-building strategy. Disappointed.
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Re: 2022 ATL Thread - The Offseason 

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Re: 2022 ATL Thread - The Offseason 

Post#493 » by LittleRooster » Fri Dec 23, 2022 8:58 pm

coolhandluke121 wrote:Wil Myers gets 1 guaranteed year from the Reds at $7.5m, up to $9.5m with incentives. Mutual option for year 2. Seems like that could have been a near-perfect fit for Milwaukee's needs and payroll situation. He's probably done being a good player, but there is still a hint of upside in that move, and he wouldn't interfere with any long-term team-building strategy. Disappointed.

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Re: 2022 ATL Thread - The Offseason 

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Re: 2022 ATL Thread - The Offseason 

Post#495 » by ReasonablySober » Wed Dec 28, 2022 3:19 am

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Re: 2022 ATL Thread - The Offseason 

Post#496 » by ReasonablySober » Wed Jan 4, 2023 10:27 pm

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Re: 2022 ATL Thread - The Offseason 

Post#498 » by Mags FTW » Wed Jan 11, 2023 1:09 am

Popped my head into the Twins subreddit. They are pretty excited to get a guy that failed 2 physicals.
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Re: 2022 ATL Thread - The Offseason 

Post#499 » by trwi7 » Wed Jan 11, 2023 12:59 pm

Mags FTW wrote:Popped my head into the Twins subreddit. They are pretty excited to get a guy that failed 2 physicals.


It's only a 6 year deal and he's never missed time with the leg that caused the failed physical. I'd be pretty ecstatic if I was a Twins fan.
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Re: 2022 ATL Thread - The Offseason 

Post#500 » by MickeyDavis » Fri Jan 13, 2023 4:28 pm

The electronic strike zone will be used in all 30 Class AAA parks in 2023, sources told ESPN, seemingly another significant step toward the implementation of the technology at the big league level in the near future.

The Automatic Balls and Strikes system, commonly referred to as ABS, will be deployed in two different ways. Half of the Class AAA games will be played with all of the calls determined by an electronic strike zone, and the other half will be played with an ABS challenge system similar to that used in professional tennis.

Each team will be allowed three challenges per game, with teams retaining challenges in cases when they are proved correct. MLB's intention is to use the data and feedback from both systems, over the full slate of games, to inform future choices.

As of now, MLB has no firm date to implement its Automatic Balls and Strikes system in the big leagues. But in recent seasons, the robotic umpire has been used increasingly in the minor leagues.

In 2019, the independent Atlantic League used the electronic strike zone in an all-star game, and that same year, the Arizona Fall League was played with the ABS. In 2021, the ABS was deployed in some Class A parks. Last season, the full ABS was used for some Class AAA games.

The Class A Southeast League adopted the challenge system, in which the plate umpires called balls and strikes but the batter, pitcher and catcher each had the power to challenge the decision on a particular pitch. As one official noted, this seemed to foster another layer of in-game strategy, with managers and coaching staffs guiding players on the best manner to use the challenges -- avoiding frivolous challenges and protecting the team from egregious ball-strike call mistakes in pivotal moments.

The first-year feedback on the challenge system was surprisingly positive, according to club staffers, with some in the industry beginning to believe that this might be a good first step in utilizing ball-strike technology.

If MLB were to commit to electronic strike zone calls for all pitches, it would dramatically change the position of catcher, which for generations has been inhabited by players who have mastered defensive nuances -- receiving the ball effectively, pitch presentation and conversational advocacy with the umpires -- that would become all but obsolete under an ABS. With a full ABS, catchers would really be required only to block balls in the dirt and throw. Additionally, the umpires would have one of their primary responsibilities stripped away completely if MLB shifted to an electronic strike zone.

If the feedback on the challenge system continues to be positive, it could be that this gains favor as an initial intermediate step over an immediate ABS takeover of all ball-strike calls.

There is already significant change in the season ahead, with the implementation of a pitch clock, new regulations greatly limiting the use of defensive shifts, larger bases, and a restriction on the number of times a pitcher can attempt pickoff throws. The alterations are intended to augment what MLB commissioner Rob Manfred has referred to as the "pace of action."

At the winter meetings, MLB general managers were also briefed on the ongoing efforts to shape the strike zone in a way that is more conducive for action. In the season ahead, there will be more focus on lowering the top of the strike zone -- an area in which many pitchers have contributed to the record rate of strikeouts -- and calling strikes within the 17-inch horizontal plane above home plate.
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