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Do we extend Christian Wood?

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Do we extend Christian Wood?

A) Yes give him the full 4 years, 77 million
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59%
B) Yes but give him less. Take it or leave it Wood
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19%
C) No, let him play it out this season and then we'll see
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4%
D) No. Hold and see if we can trade first
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15%
E) No. If he leaves, he leaves.
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4%
 
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Re: Do we extend Christian Wood? 

Post#101 » by 41Dirk41 » Wed Jan 4, 2023 10:53 pm

Bob8 wrote:
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ejs78 wrote:What exactly has Wood (who grown on me a little) done to earn anything more than a 2 year deal?


We can repeat the same argument for the Brunson extension...

So "avoid our old mistakes" is my answer.

Anyway Ayton is on the block for sure, probably we don't have the assets but this is the type of bargain we need.


There is a huge difference, Brunson was instrumental for Mavs, when Luka was out. And there were few teams very interested in him.

Imho is giving Wood 4 years contract more risking than losing him for nothing. Yes, they will be worse next year, but they're not winning anything before 2025 in any cases.


Yes nobody wanted him because in his first 3years he was only a good backup PG (he didn't even can play in PO), last summer his value was very different. And we lost him.

I don't think that a 4y/77 deal is a problem, the cap will go up and his salary will be more or less the MLE.
Anyway we can trade him without problems every day.

3y is perfect for me but if he wants the 4y/77M or he will be FA then i sign him right now.
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Re: Do we extend Christian Wood? 

Post#102 » by Bob8 » Wed Jan 4, 2023 10:57 pm

ejs78 wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
41Dirk41 wrote:
We can repeat the same argument for the Brunson extension...

So "avoid our old mistakes" is my answer.

Anyway Ayton is on the block for sure, probably we don't have the assets but this is the type of bargain we need.


There is a huge difference, Brunson was instrumental for Mavs, when Luka was out. Mavs were 10/10 without Luka last year. And there were few teams very interested in him. Wood is not bringing wins without Luka and I doubt very much that there's a single team, who is very interested in him.

Imho giving Wood 4 years contract is more risking than losing him for nothing. Yes, they will be worse next year, but they're not winning anything before 2025 in any cases.
Bob,

Its a new year and we finally agree on something

Brunson is a high character guy who's been leader on winning teams. Wood was traded for a bag of balls and needs to prove alot more to get the bag.

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I'm interested only in Mavs winning championship. To get there, they will need totally different roster. I doubt very much that Wood is important piece of that or that he will bring that missing piece. Signing someone, who you don't know, if he really helps you, for 4 years, is very risky.
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Re: Do we extend Christian Wood? 

Post#103 » by 41Dirk41 » Wed Jan 4, 2023 10:58 pm

So immagine offer a 3y/33M for a 6+3 guy 6months before the expires and start a Wood drama... That's very funny.

But Cuban is the smart guy in the room. Again.
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Re: Do we extend Christian Wood? 

Post#104 » by 41Dirk41 » Wed Jan 4, 2023 11:03 pm

Bob8 wrote:
ejs78 wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
There is a huge difference, Brunson was instrumental for Mavs, when Luka was out. Mavs were 10/10 without Luka last year. And there were few teams very interested in him. Wood is not bringing wins without Luka and I doubt very much that there's a single team, who is very interested in him.

Imho giving Wood 4 years contract is more risking than losing him for nothing. Yes, they will be worse next year, but they're not winning anything before 2025 in any cases.
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Its a new year and we finally agree on something

Brunson is a high character guy who's been leader on winning teams. Wood was traded for a bag of balls and needs to prove alot more to get the bag.

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I'm interested only in Mavs winning championship. To get there, they will need totally different roster. I doubt very much that Wood is important piece of that or that he will bring that missing piece. Signing someone, who you don't know, if he really helps you, for 4 years, is very risky.


I'm agree with you for reset our roster right now, but we just re-signed some guys and probably we will re-sign others soon so this is not an option for our FO.

Then Wood for 4years it's better than no Wood... But Wood for 3years with a TO in the third one is perfect :wink:
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Re: Do we extend Christian Wood? 

Post#105 » by Darren » Wed Jan 4, 2023 11:36 pm

I think both DFS and Wood are worth keeping. Dinwiddle has made the case for extension as well. Bullock and Powell are likely gone. Green is likely coming back.
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Re: Do we extend Christian Wood? 

Post#106 » by Darren » Wed Jan 4, 2023 11:36 pm

The Mavs needs an elite defensive piece anywhere. But to be sure, the Mavs paint defense has significantly improved with Wood being an elite shotblocker last few weeks. Wood just moves a step before offensive players getting into position like Maxi does. That's a good sign of improvement. I think court awareness really help Wood out on both end. Being part of team ball is a big part of growth for Wood this season. Last couples of years, Wood was playing streetball in iso style most possessions.
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Re: Do we extend Christian Wood? 

Post#107 » by Darren » Wed Jan 4, 2023 11:41 pm

The Mavs also needs another elite playmaker and clutch performer. If someone likes FVV or Jordan Clarkson is available, the Mavs should make a try.
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Re: Do we extend Christian Wood? 

Post#108 » by Darren » Wed Jan 4, 2023 11:48 pm

I think Hardaway should be shopped. Dinwiddle might be traded if the returning piece fit the timeline of the core. Of course, I think Dinwiddle has done a nice job to fill the void Brunson left. That's a great improvement to efforts and leadership. Skill-wise, Dinwiddle is less streaky from long range now.
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Re: Do we extend Christian Wood? 

Post#109 » by Michaellam1987 » Thu Jan 5, 2023 4:39 am

Darren wrote:I think Hardaway should be shopped. Dinwiddle might be traded if the returning piece fit the timeline of the core. Of course, I think Dinwiddle has done a nice job to fill the void Brunson left. That's a great improvement to efforts and leadership. Skill-wise, Dinwiddle is less streaky from long range now.


No one will take THJ and his contract right now, unless you attach positive value asset. Otherwise, it can only be for another player with negative value.
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Re: Do we extend Christian Wood? 

Post#110 » by Apz » Thu Jan 5, 2023 4:56 am

Darren wrote:The Mavs needs an elite defensive piece anywhere. But to be sure, the Mavs paint defense has significantly improved with Wood being an elite shotblocker last few weeks. Wood just moves a step before offensive players getting into position like Maxi does. That's a good sign of improvement. I think court awareness really help Wood out on both end. Being part of team ball is a big part of growth for Wood this season. Last couples of years, Wood was playing streetball in iso style most possessions.


Well tbh, if u dont have the footspeed or is a natural shotblocker, u will look bad on defense. Wood has played with rebuilding teams with young players, I think its pretty natural that defense looks bad then. Team defense comes with experience, system and effort. Mavs might not have the best defensive pieces in the league, but dont think many teams actually tries harder. So Wood starts to get the system, teamawareness what teammates gonna move and when he shall move and such. And I actually think he really enjoys getting those great defensive posessions since he been blamed for bad defense for years.
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Re: Do we extend Christian Wood? 

Post#111 » by 41Dirk41 » Thu Jan 5, 2023 7:43 am

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Darren wrote:The Mavs needs an elite defensive piece anywhere. But to be sure, the Mavs paint defense has significantly improved with Wood being an elite shotblocker last few weeks. Wood just moves a step before offensive players getting into position like Maxi does. That's a good sign of improvement. I think court awareness really help Wood out on both end. Being part of team ball is a big part of growth for Wood this season. Last couples of years, Wood was playing streetball in iso style most possessions.


Well tbh, if u dont have the footspeed or is a natural shotblocker, u will look bad on defense. Wood has played with rebuilding teams with young players, I think its pretty natural that defense looks bad then. Team defense comes with experience, system and effort. Mavs might not have the best defensive pieces in the league, but dont think many teams actually tries harder. So Wood starts to get the system, teamawareness what teammates gonna move and when he shall move and such. And I actually think he really enjoys getting those great defensive posessions since he been blamed for bad defense for years.


Agree,unless you are a lock down defender like Giannis, Kawhi,LeBron ecc ecc you need a good team defense and chemistry.

Wood is improving his defense every game, he will never be Anthony Davis or Tim Duncan but we played last years with Powell starting C so i don't understand all of this hate against C-Wood.
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Re: Do we extend Christian Wood? 

Post#112 » by ejs78 » Thu Jan 5, 2023 4:57 pm

41Dirk41 wrote:
Apz wrote:
Darren wrote:The Mavs needs an elite defensive piece anywhere. But to be sure, the Mavs paint defense has significantly improved with Wood being an elite shotblocker last few weeks. Wood just moves a step before offensive players getting into position like Maxi does. That's a good sign of improvement. I think court awareness really help Wood out on both end. Being part of team ball is a big part of growth for Wood this season. Last couples of years, Wood was playing streetball in iso style most possessions.


Well tbh, if u dont have the footspeed or is a natural shotblocker, u will look bad on defense. Wood has played with rebuilding teams with young players, I think its pretty natural that defense looks bad then. Team defense comes with experience, system and effort. Mavs might not have the best defensive pieces in the league, but dont think many teams actually tries harder. So Wood starts to get the system, teamawareness what teammates gonna move and when he shall move and such. And I actually think he really enjoys getting those great defensive posessions since he been blamed for bad defense for years.


Agree,unless you are a lock down defender like Giannis, Kawhi,LeBron ecc ecc you need a good team defense and chemistry.

Wood is improving his defense every game, he will never be Anthony Davis or Tim Duncan but we played last years with Powell starting C so i don't understand all of this hate against C-Wood.



Don't really think people are hating on Wood. A 40 game sample size from a guy with his reputation + a contract year just makes some people skeptical of offering 4 years regardless of the cap spike. If he goes back to Houston Wood on a 4 year deal it could become very hard to move him. By all reports the Rockets tried to move him all last year and didnt find a take until the summer.
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Re: Do we extend Christian Wood? 

Post#113 » by 41Dirk41 » Thu Jan 5, 2023 5:57 pm

ejs78 wrote:
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Well tbh, if u dont have the footspeed or is a natural shotblocker, u will look bad on defense. Wood has played with rebuilding teams with young players, I think its pretty natural that defense looks bad then. Team defense comes with experience, system and effort. Mavs might not have the best defensive pieces in the league, but dont think many teams actually tries harder. So Wood starts to get the system, teamawareness what teammates gonna move and when he shall move and such. And I actually think he really enjoys getting those great defensive posessions since he been blamed for bad defense for years.


Agree,unless you are a lock down defender like Giannis, Kawhi,LeBron ecc ecc you need a good team defense and chemistry.

Wood is improving his defense every game, he will never be Anthony Davis or Tim Duncan but we played last years with Powell starting C so i don't understand all of this hate against C-Wood.



Don't really think people are hating on Wood. A 40 game sample size from a guy with his reputation + a contract year just makes some people skeptical of offering 4 years regardless of the cap spike. If he goes back to Houston Wood on a 4 year deal it could become very hard to move him. By all reports the Rockets tried to move him all last year and didnt find a take until the summer.


Yes i understand your point and it's true.
He created problems in every team but looks like he wants to stay here and he is motivated to play for us.

But our roster situation is drammatic, we have low offensive talent outside Luka and some SD erratic moment.

The others are streaky shooters.

Probably the best solution is a reset but our FO don't think the same so better having Wood than last year big rotation.

If he accepts 2y i'm ok but start a bidding war and risk breaking the relationship isn't a good idea (like they made with Brunson).

Anyway we will see...
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Re: Do we extend Christian Wood? 

Post#114 » by ejs78 » Sat Jan 7, 2023 8:56 pm

Interesting comments about Woods agent pushing the narrative to about 30 media members every time he does something good around the 19:30 mark:

https://open.spotify.com/episode/5d1fH6dylIGi7GIEfbBsBJ?si=XuYDPNp-S1e4kceK3E2omQ

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Re: Do we extend Christian Wood? 

Post#115 » by HMFFL » Thu Feb 2, 2023 2:31 pm

The Mavericks have opened contract extension talks with Wood, but sources say those talks remain in the preliminary stages.

 

– via Marc Stein @ marcstein.substack.com



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