Krawczynski: Tim Connelly as POBO (Official! page 6)

[Rookie-Mistake]

I don't mind starting positive.

Do you have a list of all our MLE signings?

Let's talk about Tim's performance so far.

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OK I'll start...

Name an MLE signing better than Kyle Anderson in this franchise's history.

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[shrink]

He got a lot of heat in the offseason for signing Rivers and Forbes when he had Nowell in a contract year and for adding the depth of Knight, Garza, etc. (plus the Gobert trade) when he had Reid in a contract year.

But I actually think these moves brought extra clarity to those spots, and will help him as he's approaching contract negotiations and possibly trade negotiations.

Also, if you do a 5-for-1 trade, you need rotation players in case of injuries, illness, or any drop in performance, as we’ve seen.

It was interesting to me that he filled most of these spots with vets, when MIN’s standard procedure is to get risky prospects, hoping something hits. Aside from Josh Minott, who doesn’t get to play with the big club, Connely tried to bring in vets to provide structure to an already young group of starters and bench. I think he realized the loss of leadership PatBev would create, and tried to bring in older players to reduce this problem. It surprised me, since Connely has done so well scouting young talent.

[shrink]

I think Connelly, unsurprisingly, did fine in his first draft.

- Walker Kessler seems to be doing well

- Wendell Moore Jr, with a few years in college under Dr. K, was probably the most NBA-educated guy in the draft

- Josh Minott was a big hit in summer league

- Connely traded for Luka Garza, who has had a few moments.

But right now, Gobert trumps everything. If you decided it can’t work, no amount of small moves will change your opinion of Tim.

[Note30]

I don't mind starting positive.

Do you have a list of all our MLE signings?

Let's talk about Tim's performance so far.

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OK I'll start...

Name an MLE signing better than Kyle Anderson in this franchise's history.

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Kirilenko

[Mamba4Goat]

I don't mind starting positive.

Do you have a list of all our MLE signings?

OK I'll start...

Name an MLE signing better than Kyle Anderson in this franchise's history.

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Kirilenko

Ehh…name value, sure. But SloMo has been a better Wolf.

[younggunsmn]

I think Connelly, unsurprisingly, did fine in his first draft.

- Walker Kessler seems to be doing well

- Wendell Moore Jr, with a few years in college under Dr. K, was probably the most NBA-educated guy in the draft

- Josh Minott was a big hit in summer league

- Connely traded for Luka Garza, who has had a few moments.

But right now, Gobert trumps everything. If you decided it can’t work, no amount of small moves will change your opinion of Tim.

Kessler looks legit, rest havent shown much. And he spent a late 1st and 2 future 2nds for Moore who can't beat out Matt Ryan and Bryn Forbes for minutes so far. Garza was a FA pickup on a 2-way.

Well right now the Gobert trade looks like top 3 worst all time, with chance at #1 depending how those draft picks fall.
Saying you like Connelly because he made a few nice small moves at this point is like saying you like Charles Manson for his music.

[minimus]

Let's talk about Tim's performance so far.

OK I'll start...

Name an MLE signing better than Kyle Anderson in this franchise's history.

Anderson AND Taurean Prince. Interesting that I was sceptical about Prince importance for us, because I always wanted a "classic" 3&D guy, and Prince is not that. Also I always wanted a "classic" loud-in-locker-room guy such as Beverly, and Prince is not that. He is not a lockdown defender, and last year he was inconsistent as 3pt shooter. But.

MIN has drawn 11 charges this season, TP has 4 of them.
He provide us with a LOT of energy, for instance in chasing 50/50 balls or in transition.

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Also I think TP has important role as leader, mentor for young players.

[YaleS]

I think Connelly, unsurprisingly, did fine in his first draft.

- Walker Kessler seems to be doing well

- Wendell Moore Jr, with a few years in college under Dr. K, was probably the most NBA-educated guy in the draft

- Josh Minott was a big hit in summer league

- Connely traded for Luka Garza, who has had a few moments.

But right now, Gobert trumps everything. If you decided it can’t work, no amount of small moves will change your opinion of Tim.

Kessler looks legit, rest havent shown much. And he spent a late 1st and 2 future 2nds for Moore who can't beat out Matt Ryan and Bryn Forbes for minutes so far. Garza was a FA pickup on a 2-way.

Well right now the Gobert trade looks like top 3 worst all time, with chance at #1 depending how those draft picks fall.
Saying you like Connelly because he made a few nice small moves at this point is like saying you like Charles Manson for his music.

True and funny. Also, assuming all the picks will be low and fans pointing out that Min has been historically bad at drafting so it doesn`t matter any way is up there too.

[Magoose]

The funny thing about Connelly is that I thought our last good trade was the one we did with Denver.
And I also thought TC was good at drafting and finding hidden gems, but that he sucked at trading.

And the (almost) first thing MC is doing at Minnesota is trading away our picks. It's just so ironic.

To give him some credit: I've always loved the Kyle Anderson signing, so gotta give him that.

[Klomp]

And I also thought TC was good at drafting and finding hidden gems, but that he sucked at trading.

And the (almost) first thing MC is doing at Minnesota is trading away our picks. It's just so ironic.

I posted the following shortly after he was hired (page 10 of this thread). Keep in mind, this was a whole month before he made the trade for Gobert.

Has traded away quite a few draft picks in the past few years. Owe 2023 and 2025 1sts essentially for Aaron Gordon.

This is one of my big takeaways. Does a lot of pick trading. Doesn't mean he doesn't value draft picks; he just doesn't get too attached to a particular draft slot. He also does a lot of asset splitting, multiple times getting a 1st in the process. Traded down in the draft twice, with mixed results. Will also trade up or even back into the draft if he likes a guy enough.

Had a fair share of cap-clearing salary dumps that weren't necessarily great value, but were either owner-mandated or used to set up free agency and/or locking guys up.

What have we seen so far?

Draft day
1. Traded down from 19 to pick up 22/26.
2. Traded down from 40 to 45

Gobert trade
3. Traded away future picks, willing to do so for a player of Gobert's talent.

Keep an eye out for asset-splitting near the deadline of Russell, potentially adding back draft capital in the process. Will also likely make deals to realign the depth at SG and C going into free agency.

[Klomp]

Let's talk about Tim's performance so far.

OK I'll start...

Name an MLE signing better than Kyle Anderson in this franchise's history.

Anderson AND Taurean Prince. Interesting that I was sceptical about Prince importance for us, because I always wanted a "classic" 3&D guy, and Prince is not that. Also I always wanted a "classic" loud-in-locker-room guy such as Beverly, and Prince is not that. He is not a lockdown defender, and last year he was inconsistent as 3pt shooter. But.

Prince was a trade and later an extension, but yes. His re-signing was critical as well.

[Klomp]

But right now, Gobert trumps everything. If you decided it can’t work, no amount of small moves will change your opinion of Tim.

Part of the reason the trade feels as bad as it does is because Connelly was vehement about keeping Jaden McDaniels. That has proven so far to be a sage demand.

Ultimately, Jaden McDaniels will have a bigger impact here than anyone outgoing in the trade would have made. That is my biggest takeaway from the Gobert trade negotiations.

[minimus]

After Conley trade I wonder what will be our plan for offseason. While it also depends on our performance in remaining 21 games and hopefully playoffs, some things are already clear:

With Conley we have 144mil between 11 players:
Bigs:
Rudy Gobert
Karl-Anthony Towns
Nathan Knight

Wings:
Kyle Anderson
Josh Minott
Jaden McDaniels
Taurean Prince
Anthony Edwards
Wendell Moore Jr.

PGs:
Mike Conley
Jordan McLaughlin

We have 4 spots to fill and we are over the cap (est.134mil) and 18 mil below luxury tax (est.162mil).

I think we should definitely re-sign Garza for 6mil/4yrs (current Naz contract). I would definitely bring back NAW for (6 mil/3yrs). From g-league roster I'd be interested in PJ Dozier 6mil/3yrs with team option in 2nd and 3rd year. At least I'd start negotiations with these numbers in offer.

It leaves us with 10-11mil for 1 roster spot and two two-ways. I really dont know whether we should bring back Reid or Nowell for full MLE...

Bigs:
Rudy Gobert
Karl-Anthony Towns
Nathan Knight
+ Luka Garza

Wings:
Kyle Anderson
Josh Minott
Jaden McDaniels
Taurean Prince
Anthony Edwards
Wendell Moore Jr.
+ PJ Dozier

PGs:
Mike Conley
Jordan McLaughlin
+ NAW

+ 15th spot is open
+ 1st two-way contract
+ 2nd two-way contract

[fattymcgee]

After Conley trade I wonder what will be our plan for offseason. While it also depends on our performance in remaining 21 games and hopefully playoffs, some things are already clear:

With Conley we have 144mil between 11 players:
Bigs:
Rudy Gobert
Karl-Anthony Towns
Nathan Knight

Wings:
Kyle Anderson
Josh Minott
Jaden McDaniels
Taurean Prince
Anthony Edwards
Wendell Moore Jr.

PGs:
Mike Conley
Jordan McLaughlin

We have 4 spots to fill and we are over the cap (est.134mil) and 18 mil below luxury tax (est.162mil).

I think we should definitely re-sign Garza for 6mil/4yrs (current Naz contract). I would definitely bring back NAW for (6 mil/3yrs). From g-league roster I'd be interested in PJ Dozier 6mil/3yrs with team option in 2nd and 3rd year. At least I'd start negotiations with these numbers in offer.

It leaves us with 10-11mil for 1 roster spot and two two-ways. I really dont know whether we should bring back Reid or Nowell for full MLE...

I agree with signing Garza, and then we also don't need Reid. I wouldn't pay Nowell squat based on this year, would rather take my chance on Nickeil. Or someone else with the money. And we could leave an open roster spot, we don't have to fill all 15.

[TimberKat]

According to some report, Connelly had a deal in place for Hyland until some unprofessional a*hole with Nuggets decided not to help him and took a lesser offer. If that is true, I said Connelly did a really good job with the DLo trade. It would be amount to something like DLo+Second for Conley+Hyland+ NAW. That would had taken care of some of our scoring issues.

[Klomp]

According to some report, Connelly had a deal in place for Hyland until some unprofessional a*hole with Nuggets decided not to help him and took a lesser offer. If that is true, I said Connelly did a really good job with the DLo trade. It would be amount to something like DLo+Second for Conley+Hyland+ NAW. That would had taken care of some of our scoring issues.

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[shrink]

According to some report, Connelly had a deal in place for Hyland until some unprofessional a*hole with Nuggets decided not to help him and took a lesser offer.

I was surprised to hear on Locked On that this wasn’t just the Naz for Bones rumor we heard for so long, but that Taurean Prince was considered!

I can understand why DEN would want him, but I would think we’d want to hang onto a big wing, for this year and next.

[Note30]

According to some report, Connelly had a deal in place for Hyland until some unprofessional a*hole with Nuggets decided not to help him and took a lesser offer.

I was surprised to hear on Locked On that this wasn’t just the Naz for Bones rumor we heard for so long, but that Taurean Prince was considered!

I can understand why DEN would want him, but I would think we’d want to hang onto a big wing, for this year and next.

If this is true

We really dodged a bullet.

[shrink]

Wow, Bones has such a short-sighted perspective, typical of this generation's youth. Says he felt kicked to the curb, but HE was the one who walked out on his team, seems he felt entitled yet took no responsibility for poor shot selection, over-dribbling or walking out on his team. "I want all the blame away from me" is what I get outta his trade perspective.

https://abc7.com/sports/clippers-bones-hyland-felt-kicked-to-the-curb-in-denver/12869730/

[Pointgod]

According to some report, Connelly had a deal in place for Hyland until some unprofessional a*hole with Nuggets decided not to help him and took a lesser offer. If that is true, I said Connelly did a really good job with the DLo trade. It would be amount to something like DLo+Second for Conley+Hyland+ NAW. That would had taken care of some of our scoring issues.

Man getting Bones would have been huge for you. I love him as an offensive spark plug off the bench paired with Gobert and McDaniels