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Hollinger reviews the 2nd year players and has a blurb about Kispert:
https://theathletic.com/4058733/2023/01/05/scottie-barnes-evan-mobley-nba-sophomore-ratings/
"Kispert is shooting 40.9 percent from 3 this season and, amazingly, shoots 81.3 percent for his career at the rim. That is not a typo. Kispert may not get there often, but he’s big and a clinical finisher when he gets to the cup — mostly in transition.
The cap on his value is that he just can’t get free for enough shots. Kispert’s 12.7 percent usage rate is weak sauce for an NBA wing, with a limited package off the dribble and a low release point that limits his value on curls and pin-downs. Watch here, for instance, as his below-the-shoulder launch is tipped by Montrezl Harrell even though he was miles away on the catch...Kispert isn’t overtly weak in any other area; he doesn’t rebound much, but his defense is actually pretty good for this player archetype. He could probably find more chances to eat from the 3-point line playing with an elite point guard or, failing that, at least a healthy Bradley Beal. Bigger picture, he seems settled into a decade-long career as a marksman off the bench"
https://theathletic.com/4058733/2023/01/05/scottie-barnes-evan-mobley-nba-sophomore-ratings/
"Kispert is shooting 40.9 percent from 3 this season and, amazingly, shoots 81.3 percent for his career at the rim. That is not a typo. Kispert may not get there often, but he’s big and a clinical finisher when he gets to the cup — mostly in transition.
The cap on his value is that he just can’t get free for enough shots. Kispert’s 12.7 percent usage rate is weak sauce for an NBA wing, with a limited package off the dribble and a low release point that limits his value on curls and pin-downs. Watch here, for instance, as his below-the-shoulder launch is tipped by Montrezl Harrell even though he was miles away on the catch...Kispert isn’t overtly weak in any other area; he doesn’t rebound much, but his defense is actually pretty good for this player archetype. He could probably find more chances to eat from the 3-point line playing with an elite point guard or, failing that, at least a healthy Bradley Beal. Bigger picture, he seems settled into a decade-long career as a marksman off the bench"
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mhd wrote:Hollinger reviews the 2nd year players and has a blurb about Kispert:
https://theathletic.com/4058733/2023/01/05/scottie-barnes-evan-mobley-nba-sophomore-ratings/
"Kispert is shooting 40.9 percent from 3 this season and, amazingly, shoots 81.3 percent for his career at the rim. That is not a typo. Kispert may not get there often, but he’s big and a clinical finisher when he gets to the cup — mostly in transition.
The cap on his value is that he just can’t get free for enough shots. Kispert’s 12.7 percent usage rate is weak sauce for an NBA wing, with a limited package off the dribble and a low release point that limits his value on curls and pin-downs. Watch here, for instance, as his below-the-shoulder launch is tipped by Montrezl Harrell even though he was miles away on the catch...Kispert isn’t overtly weak in any other area; he doesn’t rebound much, but his defense is actually pretty good for this player archetype. He could probably find more chances to eat from the 3-point line playing with an elite point guard or, failing that, at least a healthy Bradley Beal. Bigger picture, he seems settled into a decade-long career as a marksman off the bench"
This is a spot on analysis. Kispert is incredibly efficient, but his low release point makes it very difficult to weaponize him as anything more than a low-usage floor spreader. It's not worth it to run sets to get him open because he needs a lot of space to get off his shot. Basically, as long as there is an active defender worried about him, he is neutralized. He doesn't have Korver/Redick potential unless he changes his release point. He is more of a Matt Harpring/Doug McDermott type of guy. Those guys are useful, but not really starters.
I don't know if it's possible at this point, but the best thing Kispert could do to improve his utility is to increase the height of his release point.
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But he interviews well. Is charming and no one will work harder. Isn't that what really matters?
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Dat2U wrote:But he interviews well. Is charming and no one will work harder. Isn't that what really matters?
What really matters is he is from Gonzaga. And Mark Few says nice things about him.
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As bad as a shooting night as he had tonight he was worse defensively. Been focusing on him lately and his defense has really taken a nosedive. He can stick in the league in a very narrow backup role, but if he can’t defend better in isos that’s not going to happen. Lots of second year players struggle defensively, but concern is he’s 24 next month with limited athleticism.
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Closest comparison to CK might be Reddick. Good for him, he'll have a long career and make plenty of money. Less good for us, as Reddick didn't really start putting up noticeable stats until year 7.
We've got to find away to get more out of him. He's at 49/43/86 splits right now. I'd like him to be more aggressive, even if that brings his major slashes down to 44/37, it'll give him a greater chance to expand his role. That being said, it's hard to force this stuff.
We've got to find away to get more out of him. He's at 49/43/86 splits right now. I'd like him to be more aggressive, even if that brings his major slashes down to 44/37, it'll give him a greater chance to expand his role. That being said, it's hard to force this stuff.
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Dark Faze wrote:Closest comparison to CK might be Reddick. Good for him, he'll have a long career and make plenty of money. Less good for us, as Reddick didn't really start putting up noticeable stats until year 7.
We've got to find away to get more out of him. He's at 49/43/86 splits right now. I'd like him to be more aggressive, even if that brings his major slashes down to 44/37, it'll give him a greater chance to expand his role. That being said, it's hard to force this stuff.
I don't think Redick is a good comparison because Redick could get off shots within a very short window because he had a high release point and could shoot off the move while a little off-balance. You could run pin-down screens for Redick and get him looks.
Kispert needs to be squared up before shooting, and he has a low release point. You can't really free him up for open looks as part of a designed play because a defender will have time to close out on him even if there is a pin-down screen. Kispert really only gets shots as a consequence of defenses rotating away from him to help on other players. That's still useful for the purposes of floor spacing, but it's just not as weaponizable as Redick.
Also, Redick eventually developed some off-the-bounce game where he could run secondary pick-and-roll. Kispert might get there too, but he doesn't do it much yet. Kispert is a much better finisher around the rim than Redick though.
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Let's be honest, Kispert is a dime-a-dozen meh player that can be found in any draft, no need to use a lottery pick on such a player
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Kispert is a poor defender, though he does try hard. But he’s a net + if he can get more shots. That would happen with better ball movement and less selfish play. Kuzma is the main culprit. He’ll draw defenders and pass up a wide open Kispert. This despite the fact his otrg is well below league average. Why he thinks this is ok and coaches put up with his poor efficiency is a mystery.
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closg00 wrote:Let's be honest, Kispert is a dime-a-dozen meh player that can be found in any draft, no need to use a lottery pick on such a player
Fortunately, we didn't. He was picked 15th.
One thing nice about Kispert was that he was NBA ready on Day 1. So even if doesn't really improve from here and pans out to merely be a 7th man on an average team, at least he got to that level right away. That means he was a valuable player on a cost/production basis for all 4 years of his rookie deal. Paying $3-4M a year for a 7th man who can play 25 minutes a night is a good deal.
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Kispert is up to 43% from 3-point range and has a TS% of .656. He may be low volume, but you can't complain about the shooting efficiency!
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If only we had a team that consistently swung the ball. That had a philosophy that said — 3 dribbles, no more, and at least 5 passes. (And don’t blow me up for specifics — you get the idea). He’s not the only one who would benefit.
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badinage wrote:If only we had a team that consistently swung the ball. That had a philosophy that said — 3 dribbles, no more, and at least 5 passes. (And don’t blow me up for specifics — you get the idea). He’s not the only one who would benefit.
There are two main quibbles I have with WUJ's use of Kispert:
1. He shouldn't play in crunch time except on rare occasions. Our crunch time offense is give the ball to Beal and watch or let Beal and Porzingus run a two man game. We just don't find any open shots for Krispy and, as Nate points out, he is great when he is balanced, feet set, shoulder's square and no defender really close. Those looks just don't happen late in games. And so, given that he tries hard but can't keep anyone in front of him and can't elevate to contest shots, his defense is a BIG negative. Goodwin and/or Wright should always be in in those situations.
2. He should play very limited minutes when there is another weak defender on the floor. The pairing of him and Nunn just doesn't work. But, when he is on the floor with Deni, Wright, Goodie, his offense overcomes his defense.
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long suffrin' boulez fan wrote:badinage wrote:If only we had a team that consistently swung the ball. That had a philosophy that said — 3 dribbles, no more, and at least 5 passes. (And don’t blow me up for specifics — you get the idea). He’s not the only one who would benefit.
There are two main quibbles I have with WUJ's use of Kispert:
1. He shouldn't play in crunch time except on rare occasions. Our crunch time offense is give the ball to Beal and watch or let Beal and Porzingus run a two man game. We just don't find any open shots for Krispy and, as Nate points out, he is great when he is balanced, feet set, shoulder's square and no defender really close. Those looks just don't happen late in games. And so, given that he tries hard but can't keep anyone in front of him and can't elevate to contest shots, his defense is a BIG negative. Goodwin and/or Wright should always be in in those situations.
2. He should play very limited minutes when there is another weak defender on the floor. The pairing of him and Nunn just doesn't work. But, when he is on the floor with Deni, Wright, Goodie, his offense overcomes his defense.
Amen, fully agree! It’s painful to watch other teams take advantage of Kispert in mismatches.
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Just be patient ,there's a train ticket that Troy Brown Jr, Rui Hachimura got that will probably be handed to Kispert and Avila so we can keep Beal happy with his 40 million a yr.
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To be fair, we live in an environment now where the thought is to switch everything and always close out on the shooters. Like Nate pointed out Kisperts release is slow, so I don't think it's all that easy to force feed him. You've basically got to force a defensive error for CK to be wide open. If you run an off ball screen the other team just switches it. You've got to break down the defense and once that happens they are going to prioritize staying connected to Kispert and surrendering the 3 to someone else when forced.
Better play makers will allow for that to happen more often, but ultimately it's up to CK to drive more on the close outs and to try to develop a pull up game.
Better play makers will allow for that to happen more often, but ultimately it's up to CK to drive more on the close outs and to try to develop a pull up game.
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nate33 wrote:closg00 wrote:Let's be honest, Kispert is a dime-a-dozen meh player that can be found in any draft, no need to use a lottery pick on such a player
Fortunately, we didn't. He was picked 15th.
One thing nice about Kispert was that he was NBA ready on Day 1. So even if doesn't really improve from here and pans out to merely be a 7th man on an average team, at least he got to that level right away. That means he was a valuable player on a cost/production basis for all 4 years of his rookie deal. Paying $3-4M a year for a 7th man who can play 25 minutes a night is a good deal.
Being off one pick aside , this "type" of player is readily available (we already had Mathews) on the cheap amongst undrafted and G-League players, and it was unnecessary to draft an earnest shooter who can't defend or create, when again, those guys are readily available. Hence, we drafted Davis, AND we just signed Quenton Jackson to a two-day.
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Mathews is shooting 35% this year. Kispert is tippytoeing on the 50/40/90 line. (49/43/86). That kind of efficiency is not readily available.
Due to his defensive limitations, Kispert is a role player. But as a utility player off the bench he is a good addition to any squad. Yes you would hope he could make his own offense, but what would help him most is either the team landing a star that commands doubleteams, or if he were next to a playmaking lead guard that could use his skill set more often.
Kispert is playing well on a cheap contract and under team control through the 24-25 season. He's the exact sort of player that teams ask for when trying to package a trade. He's not untouchable for us if the right deal shows up, but is a solid asset, playing well.
Picking Kispert at 15 was not the biggest waste of assets this front office has made. I might have wanted Sengun a little more than Korey, or a trade down for Ayo. But that's only a slight increase in value if you look at the other players in that draft and sort by Win score. Or minutes. Or points. Or whatever.
Due to his defensive limitations, Kispert is a role player. But as a utility player off the bench he is a good addition to any squad. Yes you would hope he could make his own offense, but what would help him most is either the team landing a star that commands doubleteams, or if he were next to a playmaking lead guard that could use his skill set more often.
Kispert is playing well on a cheap contract and under team control through the 24-25 season. He's the exact sort of player that teams ask for when trying to package a trade. He's not untouchable for us if the right deal shows up, but is a solid asset, playing well.
Picking Kispert at 15 was not the biggest waste of assets this front office has made. I might have wanted Sengun a little more than Korey, or a trade down for Ayo. But that's only a slight increase in value if you look at the other players in that draft and sort by Win score. Or minutes. Or points. Or whatever.