Miami Heat 22-23 Regular Season Thread 2.0

[AirP.]

Now we’re cooking. If you absolutely have to cut money then send Lowry to the pelicans with pelicans players going to the spurs with an asset and an expiring like JRich coming back to Miami. Boom.

New Orleans WANTED Lowry, didn't get him and traded for CJ last season who they already extended, that boat has already set sail already.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

The part that blows my mind is we are somehow okay with just running with a mega contract like Butler and a bunch of g leaguers so long as we don't pay a tax bill. That's beyond disappointing.

And that’s why it’s funny to me when people try to discredit our picks like they’re always going to be late in the first round. What if Jimmy has a major injury and is washed on a $55M a year contract causing players to leave us? These picks are great trade assets

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Now we’re cooking. If you absolutely have to cut money then send Lowry to the pelicans with pelicans players going to the spurs with an asset and an expiring like JRich coming back to Miami. Boom.

New Orleans WANTED Lowry, didn't get him and traded for CJ last season who they already extended, that boat has already set sail already.

Hayes Graham temple to the spurs with a 1st.

Lowry to the pelicans

JRich to the heat.

Pelicans will gladly take Lowry for 3 guys who either aren’t in their rotation or aren’t necessary in their rotation. Spurs have set themselves up perfectly for this.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Trust me you tell a team that’s already fighting for 1st in their conference that they can lose 3 bench guys who may not even be in the rotation and add Lowry and soon to be healthy Ingram and they’re jumping at that. Lowry has the Jonas connection and he has the championship or bust mindset they need

Based on ICCs report there’s something brewing or being talked about there either involving Lowry or Duncan.

[AirP.]

The part that blows my mind is we are somehow okay with just running with a mega contract like Butler and a bunch of g leaguers so long as we don't pay a tax bill. That's beyond disappointing.

If you don't have an MVP candidate you really don't have a shot at a championship unless you get good breaks or build an incredible roster. So if you don't have that you do the next best thing, build a good team and hope you get a break like say... a star forcing their way to your team. Riley got a break with Butler, didn't change the 2021 plan when they made the Finals but instead he doubled down on Giannis and lost. Getting to the finals should have changed the plan saying that this team is somewhere close to being a championship squad. Instead he basically looked Butler in the eyes and said no, I'll letting Crowder walk even though he's asking for a very reasonable contract and you can play with Mo Harkless or T.Ariza in his place.

Butler knows this is it, it's why he refuses to say anything but they're winning a championship even though they don't look close, it's his last shot and he's getting no help at all from the FO because they screwed up MULTIPLE years. Just imagine, nope, Crowder who you love will not be resigned but we'll hand Robinson a 90-million-dollar contract... he has every right to be pissed if they told him they'd to whatever it takes to win a championship and he almost delivered a title his first year, the plans should have changed but didn't.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

We had Mitchell KD and Kyrie all want to be here this summer. 2 of them you can argue we didn’t have the assets and we can go until we’re blue in the face (Miami wasn’t all in on Mitchell like they were KD because they think he’s coming via free agency) but one of those guys could’ve been had for Lowry and Martin but he’s an anti vaccine guy

[MettaWorldPanda]

Now we’re cooking. If you absolutely have to cut money then send Lowry to the pelicans with pelicans players going to the spurs with an asset and an expiring like JRich coming back to Miami. Boom.

New Orleans WANTED Lowry, didn't get him and traded for CJ last season who they already extended, that boat has already set sail already.

Think there's still a chance they could be in on him for a run this year and next until his contract comes off the books. They have some young underperforming assets they could use in trade such as Graham, Hayes, and Kira Lewis. Throw in Temple to match contracts and you have pieces to reroute to a rebuilding team.

[AirP.]

Trust me you tell a team that’s already fighting for 1st in their conference that they can lose 3 bench guys who may not even be in the rotation and add Lowry and soon to be healthy Ingram and they’re jumping at that. Lowry has the Jonas connection and he has the championship or bust mindset they need

Based on ICCs report there’s something brewing or being talked about there either involving Lowry or Duncan.

Or Strus, they need 3pt shooting.

[AirP.]

Now we’re cooking. If you absolutely have to cut money then send Lowry to the pelicans with pelicans players going to the spurs with an asset and an expiring like JRich coming back to Miami. Boom.

New Orleans WANTED Lowry, didn't get him and traded for CJ last season who they already extended, that boat has already set sail already.

Think there's still a chance they could be in on him for a run this year and next until his contract comes off the books. They have some young underperforming assets they could use in trade such as Graham, Hayes, and Kira Lewis. Throw in Temple to match contracts and you have pieces to reroute to a rebuilding team.

What, a smaller market is going to go into the tax for Lowry and Miami won't? Zion's new contract kicks in next year, the Lowry to NO thought is over. They're knocking on the door of the tax for next year as it is.

If Miami is talking to NO it might be Robinson for Graham and some throw ins to make the money work for both teams next year.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Trust me you tell a team that’s already fighting for 1st in their conference that they can lose 3 bench guys who may not even be in the rotation and add Lowry and soon to be healthy Ingram and they’re jumping at that. Lowry has the Jonas connection and he has the championship or bust mindset they need

Based on ICCs report there’s something brewing or being talked about there either involving Lowry or Duncan.

Or Strus, they need 3pt shooting.

That could work and in the scenario you’re adding a guy like Clarkson/Buddy/etc. you don’t have much of a need for Strus.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

New Orleans WANTED Lowry, didn't get him and traded for CJ last season who they already extended, that boat has already set sail already.

Think there's still a chance they could be in on him for a run this year and next until his contract comes off the books. They have some young underperforming assets they could use in trade such as Graham, Hayes, and Kira Lewis. Throw in Temple to match contracts and you have pieces to reroute to a rebuilding team.

What, a smaller market is going to go into the tax for Lowry and Miami won't? Zion's new contract kicks in next year, the Lowry to NO thought is over. They're knocking on the door of the tax for next year as it is.

You could argue those smaller markets need to pay the tax to truly contend.

[DayofMourning]

The part that blows my mind is we are somehow okay with just running with a mega contract like Butler and a bunch of g leaguers so long as we don't pay a tax bill. That's beyond disappointing.

And that’s why it’s funny to me when people try to discredit our picks like they’re always going to be late in the first round. What if Jimmy has a major injury and is washed on a $55M a year contract causing players to leave us? These picks are great trade assets

Jimmy breaking down is very real. Makes me want to hold on to those picks like my life depended on it.

[AirP.]

LET THE CLARKSON DREAM GO.

A story written by Shams Charania, Sam Amick, Jovan Buha

https://theathletic.com/3651933/2022/10/03/lakers-russell-westbrook-trade-possibility/

But the Lakers still wanted to exhaust every available option to improve the roster. They had explored ways of landing Nets star Kyrie Irving during the offseason, discussed concepts with the Jazz around Bojan Bogdanovic prior to him being traded to the Pistons for Kelly Olynyk and Saben Lee and even tried to land former Laker Jordan Clarkson from the Jazz before it was made clear that Utah owner Ryan Smith had no intentions of letting him go. All roads continued to lead to a potential framework with the Pacers.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Read on Twitter

Maybe point Jimmy is more of this teams answer instead of point Herro if we do decide to move Lowry.

Call me crazy but Jimmy is the type of guy who can fuxk around and average nearly 18-7-10 a night if he wants to while he takes less scoring load to preserve for the playoffs.

[MettaWorldPanda]

New Orleans WANTED Lowry, didn't get him and traded for CJ last season who they already extended, that boat has already set sail already.

Think there's still a chance they could be in on him for a run this year and next until his contract comes off the books. They have some young underperforming assets they could use in trade such as Graham, Hayes, and Kira Lewis. Throw in Temple to match contracts and you have pieces to reroute to a rebuilding team.

What, a smaller market is going to go into the tax for Lowry and Miami won't? Zion's new contract kicks in next year, the Lowry to NO thought is over. They're knocking on the door of the tax for next year as it is.

If Miami is talking to NO it might be Robinson for Graham and some throw ins to make the money work for both teams next year.

Ahhhhh good point about Zion's contract kicking in next year. Yeah with that being said they are probably in the market for an expiring contract as well. Maybe a Pat Beverly makes more sense for them

[3ammy3uck3ts]

LET THE CLARKSON DREAM GO.

A story written by Shams Charania, Sam Amick, Jovan Buha

https://theathletic.com/3651933/2022/10/03/lakers-russell-westbrook-trade-possibility/

But the Lakers still wanted to exhaust every available option to improve the roster. They had explored ways of landing Nets star Kyrie Irving during the offseason, discussed concepts with the Jazz around Bojan Bogdanovic prior to him being traded to the Pistons for Kelly Olynyk and Saben Lee and even tried to land former Laker Jordan Clarkson from the Jazz before it was made clear that Utah owner Ryan Smith had no intentions of letting him go. All roads continued to lead to a potential framework with the Pacers.

If Clarkson has no intentions of staying there, which is sounds like he doesn’t, then they’d be idiots not to find a good deal for him. This report is meaningless

[AirP.]

The part that blows my mind is we are somehow okay with just running with a mega contract like Butler and a bunch of g leaguers so long as we don't pay a tax bill. That's beyond disappointing.

And that’s why it’s funny to me when people try to discredit our picks like they’re always going to be late in the first round. What if Jimmy has a major injury and is washed on a $55M a year contract causing players to leave us? These picks are great trade assets

Jimmy breaking down is very real. Makes me want to hold on to those picks like my life depended on it.

I kind of wonder if Butler's threshold for missing games with injuries is much smaller because he doesn't feel like the organization is trying to build a contender. Basically, why should Butler stress his body if he doesn't see the organization doing what it takes to help him/them win? It's kind of what happened in Minnesota because the owner backed Towns and Wiggins and wasn't even sure if he'd give Butler a max contract (which Thibodeau would have fought for).

[DayofMourning]

We had Mitchell KD and Kyrie all want to be here this summer. 2 of them you can argue we didn’t have the assets and we can go until we’re blue in the face (Miami wasn’t all in on Mitchell like they were KD because they think he’s coming via free agency) but one of those guys could’ve been had for Lowry and Martin but he’s an anti vaccine guy

I was on board the Kyrie wagon. He was the ultimate buy low endeavor. He's about as good on offense as any guy in the league. He was a 1 year contract. He mightve very been swappable for Lowry. I mean, look at our fortunes right now and tell me you wouldn't want that talent on our team. That goes down as a major miss for me even though 90% of the board didn't want him here.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

And that’s why it’s funny to me when people try to discredit our picks like they’re always going to be late in the first round. What if Jimmy has a major injury and is washed on a $55M a year contract causing players to leave us? These picks are great trade assets

Jimmy breaking down is very real. Makes me want to hold on to those picks like my life depended on it.

I kind of wonder if Butler's threshold for missing games with injuries is much smaller because he doesn't feel like the organization is trying to build a contender. Basically, why should Butler stress his body if he doesn't see the organization doing what it takes to help him/them win?

Doubt it, 20+ missed games a season has always been the norm for him ever since the meniscus surgery, even before then it was shaky

[MettaWorldPanda]

LET THE CLARKSON DREAM GO.

A story written by Shams Charania, Sam Amick, Jovan Buha

https://theathletic.com/3651933/2022/10/03/lakers-russell-westbrook-trade-possibility/

But the Lakers still wanted to exhaust every available option to improve the roster. They had explored ways of landing Nets star Kyrie Irving during the offseason, discussed concepts with the Jazz around Bojan Bogdanovic prior to him being traded to the Pistons for Kelly Olynyk and Saben Lee and even tried to land former Laker Jordan Clarkson from the Jazz before it was made clear that Utah owner Ryan Smith had no intentions of letting him go. All roads continued to lead to a potential framework with the Pacers.

If Clarkson has no intentions of staying there, which is sounds like he doesn’t, then they’d be idiots not to find a good deal for him. This report is meaningless

Anybody turning down deals with there current teams pretty much means they want too much money lol. That pretty much means we shouldn't be trading away assets unless we are 100% sure we can afford them