2023 trade deadline (February 9)

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Re: 2023 trade deadline 

Post#61 » by WuTang_CMB » Tue Jan 10, 2023 7:34 am

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mcmurphy wrote:If I'm Denver GM I'd be listening in the Toronto area (Siakam or OG).

Dream would be Jamal and MPJ for Siakam and OG. Most realistic would be a deal for players like Plumlee and Caruso . They have a 9 million trade exception. A backup big and another defensive guard


Toronto would consider Jamal for FVV + filler and no to MPJ even with 99% insurance on his back.


Lol

That’s a dream alright.

I wouldn’t even do OG alone for those guys.
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Re: 2023 trade deadline 

Post#62 » by AleksandarN » Tue Jan 10, 2023 8:15 am

WuTang_OG wrote:
DelAbbot wrote:
AleksandarN wrote:Dream would be Jamal and MPJ for Siakam and OG. Most realistic would be a deal for players like Plumlee and Caruso . They have a 9 million trade exception. A backup big and another defensive guard


Toronto would consider Jamal for FVV + filler and no to MPJ even with 99% insurance on his back.


Lol

That’s a dream alright.

I wouldn’t even do OG alone for those guys.


OG is no where near as good as Jamal.
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Re: 2023 trade deadline 

Post#63 » by baldur » Tue Jan 10, 2023 8:20 am

This thread is pure disrespect to Jamal Murray.
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Re: 2023 trade deadline 

Post#64 » by WuTang_CMB » Tue Jan 10, 2023 8:22 am

AleksandarN wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
DelAbbot wrote:
Toronto would consider Jamal for FVV + filler and no to MPJ even with 99% insurance on his back.


Lol

That’s a dream alright.

I wouldn’t even do OG alone for those guys.


OG is no where near as good as Jamal.


offensively sure (even though the production is the same). But i do acklowedge Murray has a greater arsenal. But I’ll take OG’s impact on both ends over Jamaal. Doesn’t come close. DPOY at the hardest position every night.
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Re: 2023 trade deadline 

Post#65 » by MavsDirk41 » Tue Jan 10, 2023 8:45 am

Hope the Mavs dump Hardaway to Cleveland for Levert. Would also like for them to get rid of Powell and Bullock for some frontcourt help. Dont have a 1st round pick to use this year cause the Porzingis trade.
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Re: 2023 trade deadline 

Post#66 » by Mr Peanut » Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:18 am

Alec Burks and Nerlens Noel are definitely on the trade block from the Pistons end. All the noise so far seems to suggest we'll hold onto Bojan but if there was a strong offer it's very possible he could be on the move also.
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Re: 2023 trade deadline 

Post#67 » by TheLand13 » Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:37 am

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TheLand13 wrote:Cleveland will be doing everything in their power to address the wing department, they know that’s the one big weakness on their roster. Whether they’ll be able to make any actual moves remains to be seen.


I'm not sure if he is your typical wing player anymore but by CLE standards he's more than agile enough for the wing.

It seems like a first rounder for Jae to CLE is just a matter of waiting till the deadline and the Suns waiting to see if anyone else gets desperate to throw out more than that.


Who is "he"? Are you referring to someone we already have?

My big worry in regards to Crowder is that I don't know if that's the right move. I do think Jae helps to an extent, but with how long he's been out of basketball, I would not waste a first round pick on him. I'd rather us wait until the offseason, let our cap space open up, and see if we can get anyone there.
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Re: 2023 trade deadline 

Post#68 » by rolling_91 » Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:54 am

Dear Cavs,

Please don’t trade Caris Levert. Please re-sign him.

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Re: 2023 trade deadline 

Post#69 » by TacoLord » Tue Jan 10, 2023 3:46 pm

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TacoLord wrote:I think we will see the Lakers move Westbrook. Letting his contract expire doesn't really help the Lakers next year, they need to get some players with a few years left to fill out the roster and add some depth.


The thing is, Lakers are also saving cap space. Not just to add in players, but to retain certain core players that are currently on one year deals (Thomas Bryant, Lonnie Walker, Austin Reaves, Dennis Schroder). Getting a couple of players on multi year deals would be good, but the tricky park is that it can’t be for a lot of money because then they wouldn’t have the cap space to resign there own talent.

Kinda a weird situation with their roster. And who knows if the current FO is still in their weird mindset of pursuing for a “3rd star”, which if that’s the case, they are definitely NOT going to go after players on multi year contracts.


Those guys could all be signed with bird rights, or just cheap exception/minimum deals. Westbrook is 47m expiring, that they aren't going to get anything out of him unless they trade him. Next year the Lakers have 91 million committed to 4 guys, so that gives them about 43 million in cap space to work with before using exceptions. What free agent is going to sign outright for that money? Kyrie? I don't know what the plan is, but that's a lot of roster space to fill with no clear direction.
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Re: 2023 trade deadline 

Post#70 » by Ballerhogger » Tue Jan 10, 2023 3:57 pm

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CobraCommander wrote:Clippers need to do something...that’s an expensive star studded turd of a team...

I mean if they don’t trade pg or Kawhi . There’s zubac and that’s it


They're totally gonna get Myles Turner for Zu and half a pack of chips
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Re: 2023 trade deadline 

Post#72 » by whatisacenter » Tue Jan 10, 2023 4:34 pm

Posters have mentioned GS as buyers for roll players at the trade deadline but I don't see them making a move. They are .500 after a terrible start and are about to get healthy. When the playoffs start they will be going to an 8-9 man rotation and the bench will be Poole, DiVincenzo, Kuminga, Iguodala and J Green. Moody and Wiseman have the rest of the season to show if they can contribute, if needed, in the postseason. Kerr relies on vets when push comes to shove but he did play Kuminga and Moody spot minutes in their rookie seasons during the Warriors championship run last year.
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Re: 2023 trade deadline 

Post#73 » by celticfan42487 » Tue Jan 10, 2023 4:53 pm

TheLand13 wrote:
celticfan42487 wrote:
TheLand13 wrote:Cleveland will be doing everything in their power to address the wing department, they know that’s the one big weakness on their roster. Whether they’ll be able to make any actual moves remains to be seen.


I'm not sure if he is your typical wing player anymore but by CLE standards he's more than agile enough for the wing.

It seems like a first rounder for Jae to CLE is just a matter of waiting till the deadline and the Suns waiting to see if anyone else gets desperate to throw out more than that.


Who is "he"? Are you referring to someone we already have?

My big worry in regards to Crowder is that I don't know if that's the right move. I do think Jae helps to an extent, but with how long he's been out of basketball, I would not waste a first round pick on him. I'd rather us wait until the offseason, let our cap space open up, and see if we can get anyone there.


Sorry I was referring to Jae Crowder as the he.
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Re: 2023 trade deadline 

Post#74 » by Myth » Tue Jan 10, 2023 5:05 pm

Pattycakes wrote:Blazers need to do whatever they can to help their bench out. The 19/20 year olds are not cutting it and it’s obvious.

I don't expect big moves to bring in immediate help. They are right below the tax line, so any move they make has to be dead even in salary or bring in less salary, so that will be pretty limiting. Blazers would only go above at this rate for a huge swing for the fences, like if Durant were available (just an example, I know he isn't).
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Re: 2023 trade deadline 

Post#75 » by sisibilio » Tue Jan 10, 2023 5:23 pm

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Feels like Ayton can't wait to GTFO since he signed an offer sheet that was matched.

I’m shocked he even shows up

Time to revisit the Ayton x Sabonis?
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Re: 2023 trade deadline 

Post#76 » by Doranku » Tue Jan 10, 2023 5:34 pm

AleksandarN wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
DelAbbot wrote:
Toronto would consider Jamal for FVV + filler and no to MPJ even with 99% insurance on his back.


Lol

That’s a dream alright.

I wouldn’t even do OG alone for those guys.


OG is no where near as good as Jamal.


In what world? OG gives you the same PPG as Murray does while playing at a DPOY-level. People need to stop acting like Bubble Murray against the Jazz who got exposed defensively every year in the playoffs is the Murray you get every night.
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Re: 2023 trade deadline 

Post#77 » by WuTang_CMB » Tue Jan 10, 2023 5:51 pm

Doranku wrote:
AleksandarN wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
Lol

That’s a dream alright.

I wouldn’t even do OG alone for those guys.


OG is no where near as good as Jamal.


In what world? OG gives you the same PPG as Murray does while playing at a DPOY-level. People need to stop acting like Bubble Murray against the Jazz who got exposed defensively every year in the playoffs is the Murray you get every night.


Cuz nobody watches OG or appreciates defense in general. OG is a perfect compliment on offense and produces while also giving you ron artest level defense.
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Re: 2023 trade deadline 

Post#78 » by Ballerhogger » Tue Jan 10, 2023 6:47 pm

sisibilio wrote:
Ballerhogger wrote:
G R E Y wrote:]
Feels like Ayton can't wait to GTFO since he signed an offer sheet that was matched.

I’m shocked he even shows up

Time to revisit the Ayton x Sabonis?

Yea but i think kings fans wouldn’t like it
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Re: 2023 trade deadline 

Post#79 » by Alatan » Tue Jan 10, 2023 8:46 pm

hippesthippo wrote:
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TunaFish wrote:
Denver is looking for a bench piece not a starting level talent. Jokic, Gordon, MPJ, KCP and Murray are looking like a true contender level group with good chemistry. Bones and Brown are great in reserve. None of these guys are available.

Backup center is an issue and the only likely trade target but Denver has little to trade back after protecting the above (also no picks are available). If they find a bench piece it will have to come cheap.


MPJ, Gordon and Murray are fools gold. Especially MPJ and Gordon who being crap at defense disable Denver from ever seriously competing for a title.


Gordon isn't the 1-5 lockdown defender we were promised during the draft, but I'd hardly say his defense is a hindrance to Denver. Are you being serious?


Yes, he doesnt have a defensive position. Too short for a PF and too slow for a wing. Bad awareness and rotations, doesnt provide help defense, gets stuck on screens. The only type of player he can guard are bigger wings.
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Re: 2023 trade deadline 

Post#80 » by Hugi Mancura » Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:06 pm

I don't think there will be big names moving around. Trades will involve role players or bench players. Those players still could have huge impact on winning, so these trades will matter. Maybe biggest reason is because I think all current top 10 teams plus Wizards, Raptors and Lakers are buyers, but none of them are buying top 3 players to their current roster. Lot of teams that are in play-in spot right now are teams who just invested to success, so they won't be throwing in the towel this soon. Even they hope to improve the team little bit with current trade. So pretty much the best team who is a seller is Utah right now.

From big names Westbrook is not going anywhere. I don't think Bulls will give up after one year, so they will keep current players. This is the last year Suns might make noise in playoffs, so Ayton is not going anywhere. Indiana is not trading Turner, Toronto is not trading Siakam or OG. I do think 'We need to refresh our roster' -moves happen in off season, so that's when players like Bulls roster, Ayton will find new places.

So in the end I think biggest name to be traded is Bogdanovic. Other meaningful players are Poetl from Spurs, Conley, Clarkson (they will trade him and I think he wants to be traded) and Gay from Utah (Olynyk will stay). From the winner side I think Suns and Miami are in good position to snatch someone from that list. Maybe even GSW if they are willing to throw in some good youngsters, so Wiseman only if you add one other youngling or 1:st round pick.

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