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Sweater Vest Thread #16: Magic 109 - Blazers 106

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Sweater Vest No. 16

Poll ended at Thu Jan 12, 2023 5:37 am

Franz Wagner: 29 PTS, 2 REB, 2 AST, 2 STL, 12-20 FG, +14
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Wendell Carter Jr: 20 PTS, 10 REB, 3 AST, 7-11 FG, 3-4 3PT, +12
3
5%
Paolo Banchero: 19 PTS, 10 REB, 2 AST, 3 STL, 1 BLK, 8-10 FT, +7
3
5%
Markelle Fultz: 18 PTS, 3 REB, 7 AST, 7-8 FG, 4-4 FT, +7
5
9%
 
Total votes: 55

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Sweater Vest Thread #16: Magic 109 - Blazers 106 

Post#1 » by Knightro » Wed Jan 11, 2023 5:37 am



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Vests
Franz Wagner - 4 (v. DAL, v. TOR, v. TOR, at HOU)
Paolo Banchero - 3 (v. CHA, at BOS, v. OKC)
Jalen Suggs - 2 (v. GSW, at CHI)
Moe Wagner - 2 (v. LAC, at BOS)
Markelle Fultz - 2 (v. ATL, at GSW)
Wendell Carter Jr - 1 (v. PHX)
Cole Anthony - 1 (v. SAS)

Cummerbunds
Paolo Banchero - 6 (v. GSW, v. LAC, v. TOR, at BOS, at HOU, at GSW)
Bol Bol - 2 (v. CHA, v. ATL)
Franz Wagner - 2 (at CHI, v. SAS)
Chuma Okeke - 1 (v. DAL)
Jalen Suggs - 1 (v. PHX)
Mo Bamba - 1 (v. TOR)
Admiral Schofield - 1 (at BOS)
Terrence Ross - 1 (v. OKC)

Mittens
Markelle Fultz - 4 (v. TOR, at BOS, at BOS, v. SAS)
Bol Bol - 2 (v. PHX, v. LAC)
Wendell Carter Jr - 2 (at CHI, v. OKC)
Franz Wagner - 2 (v. ATL, at GSW)
Mo Bamba - 1 (v. CHA)
Chuma Okeke - 1 (v. GSW)
Jalen Suggs - 1 (v. DAL)
Paolo Banchero - 1 (v. TOR)
Cole Anthony - 1 (at HOU)



2021-2022 Vests
Cole Anthony - 5
Franz Wagner - 4
Wendell Carter Jr. - 3
Chuma Okeke - 3
Markelle Fultz - 2
Jalen Suggs - 2
Moritz Wagner - 2
Mo Bamba - 1

Cummerbunds
Franz Wagner - 5
Wendell Carter Jr. - 4
Jalen Suggs - 2
Robin Lopez - 2
Chuma Okeke - 2
Mo Bamba - 2
Markelle Fultz - 1
Terrence Ross - 1
Gary Harris - 1
Cole Anthony - 1
RJ Hampton - 1

Mittens
Franz Wagner - 5
Wendell Carter Jr. - 4
Chuma Okeke - 3
Moritz Wagner - 2
Cole Anthony - 1
Markelle Fultz - 1
Jalen Suggs - 1
RJ Hampton - 1
Terrence Ross - 1
Ignas Brazdeikis - 1
BJ Johnson - 1
Mo Bamba - 1
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Re: Sweater Vest Thread #16: Magic 109 - Blazers 106 

Post#2 » by Knightro » Wed Jan 11, 2023 5:37 am

Vest - Franz
Cummerbund - Carter
Mittens - Fultz

Lollypop - Paolo
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Re: Sweater Vest Thread #16: Magic 109 - Blazers 106 

Post#3 » by eyriq » Wed Jan 11, 2023 5:38 am

Vest - Franz
Cummerbund - Carter
Mittens - Fultz
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Re: Sweater Vest Thread #16: Magic 109 - Blazers 106 

Post#4 » by SOUL » Wed Jan 11, 2023 5:40 am

Knightro wrote:Vest - Franz
Cummerbund - Carter
Mittens - Fultz

Lollypop - Paolo
Rusty penny - Cole
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Re: Sweater Vest Thread #16: Magic 109 - Blazers 106 

Post#5 » by Knightro » Wed Jan 11, 2023 5:40 am

SOUL wrote:
Knightro wrote:Vest - Franz
Cummerbund - Carter
Mittens - Fultz

Lollypop - Paolo
Rusty penny - Cole


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Re: Sweater Vest Thread #16: Magic 109 - Blazers 106 

Post#6 » by Audi » Wed Jan 11, 2023 5:41 am

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Fultz
Carter
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Re: Sweater Vest Thread #16: Magic 109 - Blazers 106 

Post#7 » by MasterGMer » Wed Jan 11, 2023 5:44 am

Franz
Wendell
Paolo
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Re: Sweater Vest Thread #16: Magic 109 - Blazers 106 

Post#8 » by richi_v25 » Wed Jan 11, 2023 6:56 am

OnlyFranz takes the prize for getting doubled teamed but i didn't realize how good of a game WCj played especially going up against a big man like Nurkic on a back to back.
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Re: Sweater Vest Thread #16: Magic 109 - Blazers 106 

Post#9 » by drsd » Wed Jan 11, 2023 8:03 am

F-Wagner, Carter and Fultz were all all-world in this game (in that vote order).
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Re: Sweater Vest Thread #16: Magic 109 - Blazers 106 

Post#10 » by jezzerinho » Wed Jan 11, 2023 9:34 am

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Re: Sweater Vest Thread #16: Magic 109 - Blazers 106 

Post#11 » by paperboymafia » Wed Jan 11, 2023 10:09 am

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Re: Sweater Vest Thread #16: Magic 109 - Blazers 106 

Post#12 » by Tarheel » Wed Jan 11, 2023 10:49 am

Franz
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Fultz
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Re: Sweater Vest Thread #16: Magic 109 - Blazers 106 

Post#13 » by j-ragg » Wed Jan 11, 2023 11:54 am

1a Franz
1b Wendell
3 Paolo

WCJ battled hard against Nurkic. Had him butt hurt whining to refs the whole game.
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Re: Sweater Vest Thread #16: Magic 109 - Blazers 106 

Post#14 » by VFX » Wed Jan 11, 2023 2:22 pm

Posters that voted for anyone but Franz.

Explain. Show your work. Why?
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Re: Sweater Vest Thread #16: Magic 109 - Blazers 106 

Post#15 » by JoshuaPotter » Wed Jan 11, 2023 2:27 pm

Paulo
Franz
Wendel - Fultz

V - Paulo pulled us ahead in the first quarter. He set the tempo for the team the rest of the game. It was like 1 block, 1 steal, 9 points in a quarter. Edit - I forgot to add an above average night for him on rebounds, steals blocks

C - Ah Franz the 1 or 2 to my favorite 1 / 2 punch. Any other game I would vote for the vest.

M - Wendel - Fultz - I only can listen and watch highlights and but I saw and heard several Wendel + Fultz = Money throughout the game tonight. If Fultz can continue being THAT kind of a floor general I may change my mind.
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Re: Sweater Vest Thread #16: Magic 109 - Blazers 106 

Post#16 » by JoshuaPotter » Wed Jan 11, 2023 2:45 pm

MagicMatic wrote:Posters that voted for anyone but Franz.

Explain. Show your work. Why?


I forgot where I said it but ill repeat it here.

We in general when it comes to Vest don't give the rookie the credit he deserves. Much like Franz who is now not so quietly averaging the same as Paulo the last 7 games in PPG has been a Mr Consistent as well the past season.

Real talk, many here and elsewhere thought we were going with Jabari Smith or Chet Holmgrem. Who both might one day develop into great pieces. That's gonna need to be measured in years now.

I think even I run the risk of under valuing him. Because I don't quite know or understand his ceiling other then the future looks bright.
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Re: Sweater Vest Thread #16: Magic 109 - Blazers 106 

Post#17 » by Def Swami » Wed Jan 11, 2023 3:44 pm

Franz, but WCJ was in his damn bag this game.
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Re: Sweater Vest Thread #16: Magic 109 - Blazers 106 

Post#18 » by VFX » Wed Jan 11, 2023 4:19 pm

JoshuaPotter wrote:
MagicMatic wrote:Posters that voted for anyone but Franz.

Explain. Show your work. Why?


I forgot where I said it but ill repeat it here.

We in general when it comes to Vest don't give the rookie the credit he deserves. Much like Franz who is now not so quietly averaging the same as Paulo the last 7 games in PPG has been a Mr Consistent as well the past season.

Real talk, many here and elsewhere thought we were going with Jabari Smith or Chet Holmgrem. Who both might one day develop into great pieces. That's gonna need to be measured in years now.

I think even I run the risk of under valuing him. Because I don't quite know or understand his ceiling other then the future looks bright.


Fair enough.

I’m just always surprised in these threads when a guy has one of the best games of his young career, puts the game on his back, and people vote otherwise. You could convince me of Paolo or Carter.
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Re: Sweater Vest Thread #16: Magic 109 - Blazers 106 

Post#19 » by j_n » Wed Jan 11, 2023 5:41 pm

Franz is awesome, carried us in the 4th, he gets the vest.

Wendel was great on a very tough match up.

Fultz was really good defending lillard, getting some tough rebounds and of course finding guys in their spots and scoring efficiently.
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Re: Sweater Vest Thread #16: Magic 109 - Blazers 106 

Post#20 » by JoshuaPotter » Wed Jan 11, 2023 5:43 pm

MagicMatic wrote:
JoshuaPotter wrote:
MagicMatic wrote:Posters that voted for anyone but Franz.

Explain. Show your work. Why?


I forgot where I said it but ill repeat it here.

We in general when it comes to Vest don't give the rookie the credit he deserves. Much like Franz who is now not so quietly averaging the same as Paulo the last 7 games in PPG has been a Mr Consistent as well the past season.

Real talk, many here and elsewhere thought we were going with Jabari Smith or Chet Holmgrem. Who both might one day develop into great pieces. That's gonna need to be measured in years now.

I think even I run the risk of under valuing him. Because I don't quite know or understand his ceiling other then the future looks bright.


Fair enough.

I’m just always surprised in these threads when a guy has one of the best games of his young career, puts the game on his back, and people vote otherwise. You could convince me of Paolo or Carter.


The irony of these vests is we usually award them when a player whom we expect less of does better or does something notable through a significant stretch.

If Paulo (as average as his final PPG tally was) didn't go off early, we likely don't win. It changes the run of the game, even when we had the huge dry spell.

I am looking at Paulo as what one would typically expect of a Rookie. Not of one would expect of guys who should notably be better at this stage or who had a great projection but didn't live up to it due to injury. (Sounds like a lot of people on our roster doesn't it.)

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