Jaylen Brown Discussion Thread - New and Improved!

[Stan34]

Rob Williams on/off numbers since he has been back are phenomenal but the team has been a 0.500 team since then with one of the NBAs worst offenses. The Celtics were historically good when he didn’t play at all. So what?

At the end of the day, you need guys who can make buckets and JB does that very well. I like our chances with him on the team and you can’t argue the teams playoff success with him. I really didn’t enjoy seeing the team embarrassed by Nets in playoffs without him.

Most importantly, JB is having his best season ever - something we have said for 7 years in a row.

Wow you said it in 2019 when his stats were down across the board and the team massively underachieved? That’s commitment

Hey man in 2019 playoff games JB shot more than 60% from the floor overall. Other s let the team going down. Kyrie etc etc

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[MagicBagley18]

JSYLEN BROWN
So far, he’s scored the fourth-most points (257), behind only Giannis Antetokounmpo, DeMar DeRozan, and LeBron James. He has the fourth-most field goals made per fourth quarter (3.0) and the fifth-highest field goal percentage (53.6) among the top-25 fourth-quarter scorers.

He even has the fourth-highest 3-point percentage (41.1) among players on that list. Brown is doing it on both ends, with the second-most steals per fourth quarter (0.4) among those 25 stars. His plus-minus is tied with Jayson Tatum (plus-85) for best in the NBA in the final quarter.

But wait a minute. How do those stats compare to Tatum’s? I’m glad you asked. Brown has more total fourth-quarter points than Tatum (250), but Tatum has played two fewer games, so Tatum’s scoring average is slightly higher (8.1 to 7.8). Brown, however, is shooting nearly four percentage points better from the field (49.7 for Tatum) and more than six percentage points better from 3 (34.9 percent for Tatum).

First error, both played the same amount of games.

He’s also doubling Tatum in fourth-quarter steals per game.

OK, now how do his numbers in the fourth compare to the rest of the game? Maybe he’s just really good. Well, yes, he is, but they’re markedly better in the fourth than in quarters one through three.

His 3-point accuracy is nearly nine percentage points higher (32.5 on the season). More than a third of his steals come in the fourth as well.

Hold up one more time. Is he doing all this simply because he’s playing more minutes in the fourth? Nope, he’s not. He’s averaging 8.7 minutes in the fourth compared to 8.9 minutes in the other quarters. He’s simply rising to the occasion when the lights are brightest. Keep in mind that the Celtics have had many blowout wins where Brown sits the final minutes, which makes the trend even more impressive.

In a tight win over the Clippers, he scored 12 points in the quarter. On Christmas Day, he poured in 13 points, on 5-of-7 shooting, as the Celtics distanced themselves from the Bucks. Against the Timberwolves, he exploded for 23 of his 36 points and willed the Celtics to a win.

He’s shot 50 percent or better in the fourth in six of the Celtics’ last eight games and is getting buckets in a variety of ways.

And people saying he is regressed.


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Yea I def want the ball in Jaylens hands in the 4 th quarter in a close game over Tatum’s

Did I wrote that? Stop comparing the two. But wait a moment, you like stats but dont like them when dont confirm your narrative. So, nothing new on this board.
I posted this article to say that basketball is much more than your freaking adv stats.

I expect Raptors, on off and other useless adv ah ah ah

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Stop comparing the 2? U just wrote a novel comparing the 2. And I haven’t compared the 2 one guys a superstar and the others Jaylen brown…..but also don’t use stats unless they make a great case for Jaylen right ?

[Stan34]

Yea I def want the ball in Jaylens hands in the 4 th quarter in a close game over Tatum’s

Did I wrote that? Stop comparing the two. But wait a moment, you like stats but dont like them when dont confirm your narrative. So, nothing new on this board.
I posted this article to say that basketball is much more than your freaking adv stats.

I expect Raptors, on off and other useless adv ah ah ah

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Stop comparing the 2? U just wrote a novel comparing the 2. And I haven’t compared the 2 one guys a superstar and the others Jaylen brown…..but also don’t use stats unless they make a great case for Jaylen right ?

I posted some quote from celticsblog article. They compared the two to focus on how JB has been great in the 4th not to say JT is a mess.

Most of you are probably 15 years old. It's almost impossible to argue with you.

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[MagicBagley18]

Did I wrote that? Stop comparing the two. But wait a moment, you like stats but dont like them when dont confirm your narrative. So, nothing new on this board.
I posted this article to say that basketball is much more than your freaking adv stats.

I expect Raptors, on off and other useless adv ah ah ah

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Stop comparing the 2? U just wrote a novel comparing the 2. And I haven’t compared the 2 one guys a superstar and the others Jaylen brown…..but also don’t use stats unless they make a great case for Jaylen right ?

I posted some quote from blog article. They compared the two to focus on how JB has been great in the 4th not to say JT is a mess.

Most of you are probably 15 years old. It's almost impossible to argue with you.

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Stan… I would hope your 15 years old in all honesty. That’s about the only way to justify someone who joins a basketball website and a celtics sub forum just to defend their favorite player(your words) or 1 specific player. That’s what teenagers do to defend their favorite pop singers or crush. Furiously stroking those keys (possibly other things) defending their favorite while a poster of their idol hangs on the wall.

You are basically the same as a pre- teen Taylor swift fan defending her online against any criticism or someone defending their favorite boy band. there is really no difference. Stats don’t matter to you when they don’t support Jaylen, but do matter when they support him. Anyone who has a different opinion of him or offers an opposing view point is a hater.

If it’s so pointless and impossible talking here….why don’t you stop?

[Stan34]

Stop comparing the 2? U just wrote a novel comparing the 2. And I haven’t compared the 2 one guys a superstar and the others Jaylen brown…..but also don’t use stats unless they make a great case for Jaylen right ?

I posted some quote from blog article. They compared the two to focus on how JB has been great in the 4th not to say JT is a mess.

Most of you are probably 15 years old. It's almost impossible to argue with you.

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Stan… I would hope your 15 years old in all honesty. That’s about the only way to justify someone who joins a basketball website and a celtics sub forum just to defend their favorite player(your words) or 1 specific player. That’s what teenagers do to defend their favorite pop singers or crush. Furiously stroking those keys (possibly other things) defending their favorite while a poster of their idol hangs on the wall.

You are basically the same as a pre- teen Taylor swift fan defending her online against any criticism or someone defending their favorite boy band. there is really no difference. Stats don’t matter to you when they don’t support Jaylen, but do matter when they support him. Anyone who has a different opinion of him or offers an opposing view point is a hater.

If it’s so pointless and impossible talking here….why don’t you stop?

I'll do it!

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[MagicBagley18]

I posted some quote from blog article. They compared the two to focus on how JB has been great in the 4th not to say JT is a mess.

Most of you are probably 15 years old. It's almost impossible to argue with you.

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Stan… I would hope your 15 years old in all honesty. That’s about the only way to justify someone who joins a basketball website and a celtics sub forum just to defend their favorite player(your words) or 1 specific player. That’s what teenagers do to defend their favorite pop singers or crush. Furiously stroking those keys (possibly other things) defending their favorite while a poster of their idol hangs on the wall.

You are basically the same as a pre- teen Taylor swift fan defending her online against any criticism or someone defending their favorite boy band. there is really no difference. Stats don’t matter to you when they don’t support Jaylen, but do matter when they support him. Anyone who has a different opinion of him or offers an opposing view point is a hater.

If it’s so pointless and impossible talking here….why don’t you stop?

I'll do it!

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Thank Christ

[Parliament10]

Stan… I would hope your 15 years old in all honesty. That’s about the only way to justify someone who joins a basketball website and a celtics sub forum just to defend their favorite player(your words) or 1 specific player. That’s what teenagers do to defend their favorite pop singers or crush. Furiously stroking those keys (possibly other things) defending their favorite while a poster of their idol hangs on the wall.

You are basically the same as a pre- teen Taylor swift fan defending her online against any criticism or someone defending their favorite boy band. there is really no difference. Stats don’t matter to you when they don’t support Jaylen, but do matter when they support him. Anyone who has a different opinion of him or offers an opposing view point is a hater.

If it’s so pointless and impossible talking here….why don’t you stop?

I'll do it!

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Both of you, and Everyone else, needs to stay away from getting personal.
Keep it about the Subject of the Thread.

~ Parl

[BK_2020]

4th quarter stats for a 40 game sample is practically noise.
Also the 4th quarter is the least important quarter in a given NBA game in terms of win expectancy. The 1st and 3rd are the most important.

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[JaMarco]

-41 points against the Pelicans. Another horrendous game for Brown dragging his team down the drain as usual. Stevens needs to look to trade this guy for any useful role player at the deadline.

[Feed Your Head]

-41 points against the Pelicans. Another horrendous game for Brown dragging his team down the drain as usual. Stevens needs to look to trade this guy for any useful role player at the deadline.

Agreed.

[Bleedsgreen]

Stan… I would hope your 15 years old in all honesty. That’s about the only way to justify someone who joins a basketball website and a celtics sub forum just to defend their favorite player(your words) or 1 specific player. That’s what teenagers do to defend their favorite pop singers or crush. Furiously stroking those keys (possibly other things) defending their favorite while a poster of their idol hangs on the wall.

You are basically the same as a pre- teen Taylor swift fan defending her online against any criticism or someone defending their favorite boy band. there is really no difference. Stats don’t matter to you when they don’t support Jaylen, but do matter when they support him. Anyone who has a different opinion of him or offers an opposing view point is a hater.

If it’s so pointless and impossible talking here….why don’t you stop?

I'll do it!

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Since I can demonstrably prove I am significantly older than 15, ::Points to the join by date:: Stan its not worth arguing with these Comedians around here they are just clearly playa haters. Who decided to have their ball in the Jaylen Brown thread. You just have to wait a few months and Jaylen Brown will prove these haters arguments "are like Afghanistan bombed out and depleted"
Pretty sure I saw one of them after the playoffs last year, was claiming Jaylen has peaked and will significantly regress this year. One thing about Jaylen is he seem to always try to improve that he run through the ceilings people have put on him.

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[tlee324]

Only 41? Not 42? This fkn guy sucks, trade him.

[sam_I_am]

Rob Williams on/off numbers since he has been back are phenomenal but the team has been a 0.500 team since then with one of the NBAs worst offenses. The Celtics were historically good when he didn’t play at all. So what?

At the end of the day, you need guys who can make buckets and JB does that very well. I like our chances with him on the team and you can’t argue the teams playoff success with him. I really didn’t enjoy seeing the team embarrassed by Nets in playoffs without him.

Most importantly, JB is having his best season ever - something we have said for 7 years in a row.

Wow you said it in 2019 when his stats were down across the board and the team massively underachieved? That’s commitment

In fact I did….and I was very vocal here about the fact that JB’s contract extension that year was a huge bargain when the haters said it was a massive overpay.

[Feed Your Head]

I'll do it!

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Thank Christ

Since I can demonstrably prove I am significantly older than 15, ::Points to the join by date:: Stan its not worth arguing with these Comedians around here they are just clearly playa haters. Who decided to have their ball in the Jaylen Brown thread. You just have to wait a few months and Jaylen Brown will prove these haters arguments "are like Afghanistan bombed out and depleted"
Pretty sure I saw one of them after the playoffs last year, was claiming Jaylen has peaked and will significantly regress this year. One thing about Jaylen is he seem to always try to improve that he run through the ceilings people have put on him.

Watch on YouTube

[sam_I_am]

Only 41? Not 42? This fkn guy sucks, trade him.

Even though he has scored the 5th most points in NBA this season, there must be at least 40 players as good or better!

[Objectivity]

Only 41? Not 42? This fkn guy sucks, trade him.

The hype machine’s perception of a good game from JB is 99% of the time based on whether his shots fall. Understandable because that is what his offense package is based off of. His teammates have learned to not pass to JB in transition as much to limit his turnovers some as we saw today.

He made shots today. Kudos. Some fans watch games for the long term with a championship in mind. Due to the number of shots Brown takes every game, and his unwillingness to get others involved on nights when his shots are not falling, it’s not a safe bet to gamble a championship on whether or not Brown’s shots fall.

As Green pointed out during the finals run. We don’t have a Curry out there. Teams would much rather gamble with Brown shooting hit or miss, because it keeps the team out of movement basketball and prevents the team from taking higher percentage shots.

Shots fell today. He will take 20+ shots next game. And the next. Rinse and repeat. He will always regress to the mean, but he will never stop shooting. He will also never be a natural facilitator. I don’t enjoy the Celtics championship hopes being so much in one player’s hands.

[JaMarco]

Only 41? Not 42? This fkn guy sucks, trade him.

The hype machine’s perception of a good game from JB is 99% of the time based on whether his shots fall. Understandable because that is what his offense package is based off of. His teammates have learned to not pass to JB in transition as much to limit his turnovers some as we saw today.

He made shots today. Kudos. Some fans watch games for the long term with a championship in mind. Due to the number of shots Brown takes every game, and his unwillingness to get others involved on nights when his shots are not falling, it’s not a safe bet to gamble a championship on whether or not Brown’s shots fall.

As Green pointed out during the finals run. We don’t have a Curry out there. Teams would much rather gamble with Brown shooting hit or miss, because it keeps the team out of movement basketball and prevents the team from taking higher percentage shots.

Shots fell today. He will take 20+ shots next game. And the next. Rinse and repeat. He will always regress to the mean, but he will never stop shooting. He will also never be a natural facilitator. I don’t enjoy the Celtics championship hopes being so much in one player’s hands.

Agreed. Brown is awful and the Celtics will never win anything with him. By far the best course of action is to trade him for a package of passing/defending role players to strengthen the bench. That would make the Celtics a true contender and not a pretender with terrible Brown.

[Objectivity]

Only 41? Not 42? This fkn guy sucks, trade him.

The hype machine’s perception of a good game from JB is 99% of the time based on whether his shots fall. Understandable because that is what his offense package is based off of. His teammates have learned to not pass to JB in transition as much to limit his turnovers some as we saw today.

He made shots today. Kudos. Some fans watch games for the long term with a championship in mind. Due to the number of shots Brown takes every game, and his unwillingness to get others involved on nights when his shots are not falling, it’s not a safe bet to gamble a championship on whether or not Brown’s shots fall.

As Green pointed out during the finals run. We don’t have a Curry out there. Teams would much rather gamble with Brown shooting hit or miss, because it keeps the team out of movement basketball and prevents the team from taking higher percentage shots.

Shots fell today. He will take 20+ shots next game. And the next. Rinse and repeat. He will always regress to the mean, but he will never stop shooting. He will also never be a natural facilitator. I don’t enjoy the Celtics championship hopes being so much in one player’s hands.

Agreed. Brown is awful and the Celtics will never win anything with him. By far the best course of action is to trade him for a package of passing/defending role players to strengthen the bench. That would make the Celtics a true contender and not a pretender with terrible Brown.

Agreed. The hype machine will help increase Brown’s trade value for quality “role” players like Mitchell, KD, Halliburton, etc. Joe deserves coach of the year if he could ever figure out how to lead the Celtics to a championship with those type of role players.

Dang. Other coaches may have to choose between double teaming Tatum or those other “role players”. Our team would crumble without JBs iso plays to break the flow of the offense each possession. Naw let’s not risk having 2 versatile offense threats on the team. Let’s stick to what we know. Max out JB for years to come!!! We can not win a championship without him!

Celtics pride team basketball is nothing without a Jaylen Brown iso ball followed by a heat check to turnover in clutch time of pivotal games! So pumped for the future! As JB says “they lucky we won’t see them again this year!” Gotta love it!

[BostonCouchGM]

Only 41? Not 42? This fkn guy sucks, trade him.

Even though he has scored the 5th most points in NBA this season, there must be at least 40 players as good or better!

Casuals love them some scoring!! Look at who was guarding him lol. He regularly is guarded by the opposing team’s worst defender and most of the defense is geared towards Tatum. LOTS of guys can score in this league given the high usage Jaylen has like Beal, McCollum, Sexton, LaVine, Green, Edwards, Kyrie, DeRozan, etc.

But listen, you all SHOULD be defensive about him and shameless fanboy apologists. He’s a Celtic and you’re fans. Maybe us “haters” should just leave you to it

[Floody100]

Only 41? Not 42? This fkn guy sucks, trade him.

Even though he has scored the 5th most points in NBA this season, there must be at least 40 players as good or better!

Casuals love them some scoring!! Look at who was guarding him lol. He regularly is guarded by the opposing team’s worst defender and most of the defense is geared towards Tatum. LOTS of guys can score in this league given the high usage Jaylen has like Beal, McCollum, Sexton, LaVine, Green, Edwards, Kyrie, DeRozan, etc.

But listen, you all SHOULD be defensive about him and shameless fanboy apologists. He’s a Celtic and you’re fans. Maybe us “haters” should just leave you to it

You’re trying way too hard to push this narrative lol