Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread

[WuTang_CMB]

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[Boogie_Smooth]

Not only are they not Golden State, Gayle Benson is viewed as one of the stingiest owners in the league.

Where is that info coming from? It's reported that they are building a new arena for the team, she handed David Griffin full autonomy to build out his staff, and its been reported that she already has 500 million dollars in escrow to cover luxury tax payments for the team. I don't get a sense that they will be penny pinching when they have a generational talent like Zion in the building.

“If we’re going to be in this thing, we want to win it. If we’re going to be involved in basketball, I want to win it. That’s the way I am, that’s my personality, that’s everybody in our organization’s personality. We want to win. That’s the bottom line. If we can do it in football, I think we can do it in basketball as well.” - Gayle Benson

Well after doing some research, that new arena would be largely funded by public money. That's if it even happens, because that is far from being set in stone.

But as to Gayle Benson, it may have been her late husband who was the cheap one when it came to the Pelicans. From all reports I've found and reading what the fan base is saying, she is trying to change that perception ie getting a separate medical staff for the Pelicans.

She is going to spend the money, so either she isn't going to be the reason that the deal doesn't happen.

I would be targeting the teams that are desperate for a long play-off run, and have young players and picks to spare. Narrows down the list to:

- Pelicans (Dyson, surplus of picks)
- Knicks (Quickley, surplus of picks)
- Sacramento (Murray, their own picks)
- Warriors (Kuminga, their own picks)

I'm not counting the Grizzlies or the Nuggets since their own picks are not as valuable as other teams, and I'm not too impressed with the young guys that may be available on their rosters (ie. not their core players).

[Los_29]

I think we go the opposite way. We go all in for Beal. Wizards are going to tank and will move Kuzma. Beal has a no trade clause but for the right team and package he will come.

Trent
Flynn
Boucher
2023 Unprotected
2025 Unprotected
2024 Flip
2026 Flip

For

Beal

Fred/
Beal/
OG/Thad
Siakam/Precious
Scottie/Koloko

Its a true buy low option and Beal will fit in nicely as a clutch shooter and someone who can create from the perimeter. Yes that contract is bad which si why we only need to trade fewer picks and Trent as the true young player. Wizards get to tank and resign Trent to a decent deal.

Beal plays about 25 games a year. He's one of the last guys I'd go after. LOL.

I don't want Beal but other than last year - Fred has played less games than Beal every year of his career.

I wouldn't want to give up Trent Jr, Boucher, two unprotected FRPs and two swaps for Fred either.

[LoveMyRaps]

Hi yall, I was listening to CJ McCollum's podcast where they started talking about Raptors' fall off this season and there was one interesting quote to share:

"Something's gonna happen, I don't know what, there's rumblings about certain players on the team not being happy, and due to tampering, I can't speak to that... They're gonna move someone at some point"-CJ McCollum on his podcast talking about Raptors

Thought I'd share here, apologies if someone already has shared it.

It's gotta be Fred and/or Siakam

[Reeko]

Hi yall, I was listening to CJ McCollum's podcast where they started talking about Raptors' fall off this season and there was one interesting quote to share:

"Something's gonna happen, I don't know what, there's rumblings about certain players on the team not being happy, and due to tampering, I can't speak to that... They're gonna move someone at some point"-CJ McCollum on his podcast talking about Raptors

Thought I'd share here, apologies if someone already has shared it.

It's gotta be Fred and/or Siakam

Outside of the team losing, why would Siakam be unhappy in Toronto?

[goinrogue]

My guess is either Gary because Nick publicly called him out or Fred. Fred was openly telling the media he was upset about being asked to reduce his role in terms of ball handling responsibilities. I could see him being upset about that.

[OakleyDokely]

Fred (or Gary) for D Graham, J Hayes, D Daniels

Raps take on Graham's bad deal, but get Daniels, the recent #8 overall pick.

Pelicans go into the playoffs with VanVleet / CJ / Ingram / Zion / Val + Herb as the super sub, which is a well balanced lineup if the defense holds up (I'm skeptical though)

[HumbleRen]

Hi yall, I was listening to CJ McCollum's podcast where they started talking about Raptors' fall off this season and there was one interesting quote to share:



Thought I'd share here, apologies if someone already has shared it.

It's gotta be Fred and/or Siakam

Outside of the team losing, why would Siakam be unhappy in Toronto?

Losing out on 40M + might be a good enough reason lol.

I don't think it's Siakam though.

[Los_29]

Fred (or Gary) for D Graham, J Hayes, D Daniels

Raps take on Graham's bad deal, but get Daniels, the recent #8 overall pick.

Pelicans go into the playoffs with VanVleet / CJ / Ingram / Zion / Val + Herb as the super sub, which is a well balanced lineup if the defense holds up (I'm skeptical though)

Not that it matters but the Raptors worked out Daniels prior to the draft. He seems like a player they'd really like. Pelicans are in a position where they need to go for it as well. You really don't know how long Zion will be able to stay healthy for.

[Reeko]

It's gotta be Fred and/or Siakam

Outside of the team losing, why would Siakam be unhappy in Toronto?

Losing out on 40M + might be a good enough reason lol.

I don't think it's Siakam though.

Why would he lose out on 40M+? Are we assuming that if the team isn't in playoff contention he doesn't make an All NBA Team?

[LBJKB24MJ23]

https://dailyhive.com/toronto/raptors-ujiri-travelled-to-france-wembanyama

[LBJKB24MJ23]

lets see if Masai likes what he sees. will be telling on the moves after this trip lol

[HumbleRen]

Outside of the team losing, why would Siakam be unhappy in Toronto?

Losing out on 40M + might be a good enough reason lol.

I don't think it's Siakam though.

Why would he lose out on 40M+? Are we assuming that if the team isn't in playoff contention he doesn't make an All NBA Team?

Yep.

[Rapsfan07]

Fred (or Gary) for D Graham, J Hayes, D Daniels

Raps take on Graham's bad deal, but get Daniels, the recent #8 overall pick.

Pelicans go into the playoffs with VanVleet / CJ / Ingram / Zion / Val + Herb as the super sub, which is a well balanced lineup if the defense holds up (I'm skeptical though)

I'd probably pass on this.

Daniels is not that impressive in my eyes and I don't think I want to give up Vanvleet AND take on Graham if all we're getting is him and Hayes.

[OakleyDokely]

It's gotta be Fred and/or Siakam

Outside of the team losing, why would Siakam be unhappy in Toronto?

Losing out on 40M + might be a good enough reason lol.

I don't think it's Siakam though.

Seems like there's a bromance between GTJ/Scottie/OG. Might be some tension between the young heads and the old heads about playing style, but I seriously doubt it's the reason they're losing.

[HumbleRen]

Outside of the team losing, why would Siakam be unhappy in Toronto?

Losing out on 40M + might be a good enough reason lol.

I don't think it's Siakam though.

Seems like there's a bromance between GTJ/Scottie/OG. Might be some tension between the young heads and the old heads about playing style, but I seriously doubt it's the reason they're losing.

There's always going to be tension once money is involved. I'm not surprised.

Winning is a great deodorant but if you aren't doing that, tension and passive aggressive interactions tend to pop up on non winning teams.

[Slim Charless]

Well i was framing it off the question from the article, which said CamJo originally. I'm asking if us changing out him makes it better......

we probably value Ayton more favourably than Cam (and if I recall correctly we had interest in Ayton last summer before the Suns retained him), so in terms of the proposed deal, yes that makes it better. Though I still don't think we'd trade O.G. for either.

Ayton sure laid an egg in Toronto. He seems like a big risk. Rather keep OG.

He had a rough game but generally speaking he's very efficient and does alot with what we give him to do. He's also locked up long-term.

[AkelaLoneWolf]

I get the idea behind wanting to move GTJ, but there is also the reality that he is our best shooter and shot creator, and we are already so low on that to begin with, just so hard to see us moving him for that reason, IDK

Pascal is the best shot creator. It's not even close. He's proven to be the driver of offense on the team, but without spacing he's just always working too hard to get into his shots. I think the idea with Gary for Fournier/Quickley is that you get a worse version of Gary but at a fixed cost, that can come off the bench without pouting, and then you make them pay a FRP to take Fournier's $ off their books.

Sorry, I should have specified perimeter shot creator, which is needed because it's harder to team defend on the perimeter than it is in the paint

Outside of GTJ who do you trust to even be able to get a clean outside shot off vs a man defender?

I get the idea of Quickley and hopefully Fournier doing that job, but I just feel like maybe we are overlooking how crucial what GTJ provides us is

Trent most def helps in our offense but looking at it from a long term view. I don’t see Trent as a starter in a championship team. I don’t want to pay 30M a year for a bench player.

[Dennis 37]

My guess is either Gary because Nick publicly called him out or Fred. Fred was openly telling the media he was upset about being asked to reduce his role in terms of ball handling responsibilities. I could see him being upset about that.

Scottie is the main playmaker of the future whether he is labeled the PG or not. We waste him if he is not initiating plays. It would not make sense to give Fred the bag, and see him pout if he is not the guy, and then trade GTJ because we can't afford to give him the bag.

[OakleyDokely]

I sorta see Scottie's role going forward as a Gasol-like or Draymond-like hub at the top of the key in the halfcourt. Whether you want to label this type of player a playmaker or PG or initiator, doesn't really matter in my mind.