NBA MVP Discussion Thread 2022-23 (pt 2)

AleksandarN · Post #1101 » by **AleksandarN** » Fri Jan 13, 2023 7:40 am

Very interesting interview in Serbian with English subtitles. You really get an insight to how Jokic thinks about the game. How humble he is. The most I have seen Jokic open up to anyone in the media. Talks about never wanting the MVP award. Never his goal. That’s refreshing

Watch on YouTube

Black star · Post #1102 » by **Black star** » Fri Jan 13, 2023 7:42 am

If Luka by some miracle can keep Dallas in a top 3 seed by the end of the season I think he has the MVP locked up.

Otherwise I have Tatum winning it as long as Boston stays clearly ahead of the other teams in the league and he keeps up his current pace for the rest of the season. Jokic has a much harder path with the Nuggets probably needing the number 1 overall seed and him averaging a triple double. It's been two seasons of the media, besides Lowe, wanting to give the MVP to anyone else but Jokic and I don't see that changing this year if they are offered an alternative.

Sgt Major · Post #1103 » by **Sgt Major** » Fri Jan 13, 2023 8:19 am

Read on Twitter

Johnny Firpo · Post #1104 » by **Johnny Firpo** » Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:47 am

Duke4life831 wrote:Right now I have it

Jokic
Luka
(gap)
Tatum
(gap)
Giannis

Sounds about right.

B-easy · Post #1105 » by **B-easy** » Fri Jan 13, 2023 12:03 pm

Statistically, there is too much of a difference between the top 4 and everyone else (see below). Davis and Embiid have (or will have) missed too many games so it's between Jokic and Doncic. If you take into account impact statistics and record then Jokic has a nice lead.

Also, Sportsbet has Jokic and doncic $3.5 dollar favourites. If you put a $1k on both you are almost guaranteed to make $1.5k profit.

Mickey8 · Post #1106 » by **Mickey8** » Fri Jan 13, 2023 1:13 pm

Doncic is the easily MVP this season, no contest. Only the injury and the total collapse of Dallas in the second part of the season can prevent him from winning it :wink:

Colbinii · Post #1107 » by **Colbinii** » Fri Jan 13, 2023 2:04 pm

Mickey8 wrote:Doncic is the easily MVP this season, no contest. Only the injury and the total collapse of Dallas in the second part of the season can prevent him from winning it

You are biased if you think there is no contest.

jfs1000d · Post #1108 » by **jfs1000d** » Fri Jan 13, 2023 2:21 pm

It's Luka, Jokic 1-2 and then a slight drop to Tatum and Embiid.

Durant is gone after a month out. That's the 4. Giannis is sliding unles Milwaukee turns it around.

Exp0sed · Post #1109 » by **Exp0sed** » Fri Jan 13, 2023 3:30 pm

jfs1000d wrote:It's Luka, Jokic 1-2 and then a slight drop to Tatum and Embiid.

Durant is gone after a month out. That's the 4. Giannis is sliding unles Milwaukee turns it around.

sure, no bias here

Embiid has played 30 games and the 76ers won 18 of those games
Durant has played in 39 and the Nets have won 26 of those
but Embiid is 4th and Durant is way behind haha

idk when Durant will come back or how many he would end up missing
I also don't know that Embiid will play all the games in that stretch

Durant is way ahead of Embiid rn, let's talk in a month - maybe then Embiid will close the gap from him

baksuzz · Post #1110 » by **baksuzz** » Fri Jan 13, 2023 3:33 pm

Black star wrote:If Luka by some miracle can keep Dallas in a top 3 seed by the end of the season I think he has the MVP locked up.

Otherwise I have Tatum winning it as long as Boston stays clearly ahead of the other teams in the league and he keeps up his current pace for the rest of the season. Jokic has a much harder path with the Nuggets probably needing the number 1 overall seed and him averaging a triple double. It's been two seasons of the media, besides Lowe, wanting to give the MVP to anyone else but Jokic and I don't see that changing this year if they are offered an alternative.

If Tatum wins it beside Jokic and Doncic this year, it would be most unfair MVP award in a while.
Tatum is having a great year, but his teammate is having almost the same stats as him, even having a higher fg%.
Tatum is not even top 10 in PER, by far the worst fg% of all the MVP candidates... his fg% is dropping every month. In January he is shooting just 43%.
Denver also has just 1 loss more then Boston atm.

Infinite Llamas · Post #1111 » by **Infinite Llamas** » Fri Jan 13, 2023 4:05 pm

Jokic

Luka

Tatum/Durant

Embiid/Giannis/Ja

Colbinii · Post #1112 » by **Colbinii** » Fri Jan 13, 2023 4:17 pm

baksuzz wrote:
Black star wrote:If Luka by some miracle can keep Dallas in a top 3 seed by the end of the season I think he has the MVP locked up.

Otherwise I have Tatum winning it as long as Boston stays clearly ahead of the other teams in the league and he keeps up his current pace for the rest of the season. Jokic has a much harder path with the Nuggets probably needing the number 1 overall seed and him averaging a triple double. It's been two seasons of the media, besides Lowe, wanting to give the MVP to anyone else but Jokic and I don't see that changing this year if they are offered an alternative.

If Tatum wins it beside Jokic and Doncic this year, it would be most unfair MVP award in a while.
Tatum is having a great year, but his teammate is having almost the same stats as him, even having a higher fg%.
Tatum is not even top 10 in PER, by far the worst fg% of all the MVP candidates... his fg% is dropping every month. In January he is shooting just 43%.
Denver also has just 1 loss more then Boston atm.

Stop using FG%.

Use eFG% for field goal attempts and TS% for shooting efficiency.

Jadoogar · Post #1113 » by **Jadoogar** » Fri Jan 13, 2023 4:46 pm

Colbinii wrote:
baksuzz wrote:
Black star wrote:If Luka by some miracle can keep Dallas in a top 3 seed by the end of the season I think he has the MVP locked up.

Otherwise I have Tatum winning it as long as Boston stays clearly ahead of the other teams in the league and he keeps up his current pace for the rest of the season. Jokic has a much harder path with the Nuggets probably needing the number 1 overall seed and him averaging a triple double. It's been two seasons of the media, besides Lowe, wanting to give the MVP to anyone else but Jokic and I don't see that changing this year if they are offered an alternative.

If Tatum wins it beside Jokic and Doncic this year, it would be most unfair MVP award in a while.
Tatum is having a great year, but his teammate is having almost the same stats as him, even having a higher fg%.
Tatum is not even top 10 in PER, by far the worst fg% of all the MVP candidates... his fg% is dropping every month. In January he is shooting just 43%.
Denver also has just 1 loss more then Boston atm.

Stop using FG%.

Use eFG% for field goal attempts and TS% for shooting efficiency.

Tatum also has a lower TS% than Jokic, Embiid, and Luka

Colbinii · Post #1114 » by **Colbinii** » Fri Jan 13, 2023 4:47 pm

Jadoogar wrote:
Colbinii wrote:
baksuzz wrote:
If Tatum wins it beside Jokic and Doncic this year, it would be most unfair MVP award in a while.
Tatum is having a great year, but his teammate is having almost the same stats as him, even having a higher fg%.
Tatum is not even top 10 in PER, by far the worst fg% of all the MVP candidates... his fg% is dropping every month. In January he is shooting just 43%.
Denver also has just 1 loss more then Boston atm.

Stop using FG%.

Use eFG% for field goal attempts and TS% for shooting efficiency.

Tatum also has a lower TS% than Jokic, Embiid, and Luka

I know

A somewhat useful statistic.

Ballerhogger · Post #1115 » by **Ballerhogger** » Fri Jan 13, 2023 4:54 pm

A1 Luka A2 Jokic right now.. Its really neck and neck, if it comes to that i think Luka would get it over jokic

CobraCommander · Post #1116 » by **CobraCommander** » Fri Jan 13, 2023 5:03 pm

I don’t see what has Happened that has Jokic losing ground to the field...I think it’s still Jokic by a large margin.

I think Dallas could be first in the west by the end of January because their schedule is easy as hell upcoming and then the conversation is different ....significantly.

If Luka is first and playing this well he will be in the conversation.

If Tatum or Giannis or KD or Embiid or Curry have their teams with better records than mavs or Denver by end of year and they all healthy it could be a dead heat coming to the end... best race in a long time

Dutchball97 · Post #1117 » by **Dutchball97** » Fri Jan 13, 2023 5:23 pm

Around the mid-season mark I have it like this:

1. Jokic
2. Luka
--
3. Durant
4. Tatum
--
5. Embiid
6. Giannis
7. Mitchell
8. Ja

Curry, Dame, Butler, AD and LeBron could be in the conversation based on their level of play but they've all missed a good chunk of time already, while all their teams are also in the play-in or entirely out of the play-offs.

CobraCommander · Post #1118 » by **CobraCommander** » Fri Jan 13, 2023 6:15 pm

https://www.nba.com/news/kia-mvp-ladder-jan-13-2023-edition

Surprise surprise.......Jokic still one...

2-5 is still moving around - Luka is 2 and was 3 last week, Tatum is now 3 was 2 last week - Giannis is 4 was 5 and now Embiid has joined the party at 5!

The 2 time reining mvp is still reining....

Childs · Post #1119 » by **Childs** » Fri Jan 13, 2023 6:27 pm

Watch on YouTube

Really cool of Ja. Man two adults stealing a kid's basketball.......pretty damn low. Aren't there cameras everywhere at the FedexForum?

CobraCommander · Post #1120 » by **CobraCommander** » Fri Jan 13, 2023 6:37 pm

Childs wrote:

Watch on YouTube

Really cool of Ja. Man two adults stealing a kid's basketball.......pretty damn low

Ja a real one....will rightfully check a kids chin for throwing a ball at a grown man and will rightfully give the kid a once in a lifetime experience If he can when someone does something evil to them....

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